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posted 1 week, 2 days ago

So if it's a "noble cause" but "obviously won't have 100% support" they should ignore it? If it had 100% support, they wouldn't need to promote and encourage it like this, THAT is why they do it.

You title this post HOMOPHOBIA i.e.dislike of or prejudice against gay people, you think we need to sweep it under the carpet?

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

Should straight men really have to put up with sharing changing rooms with gay men who may try and abuse them? They banned trans women from women's changing rooms when 99% of the trans women fancy men so are hardly a threat to women. Gay men all fancy other men so they are all a threat in male changing rooms. Whenever I go into a changing room I am risking my life just cos the woke have forced this upon us.

Also men don't just get to choose which gender they identify as fancying. Men fancy women and women fancy men. That's the way it has been for millions of years.

Players shouldn't be forced to wear political symbols. The only things they should wear are the club badge and poppy's in November.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

Free speech should be encouraged and we need to stop cancelling people for their views and players should be banned for not wearing poppy's which are the symbol of free speech.

Gary Lineker should not be allowed to voice his woke views and pride badges should be banned. Players should have a choice in what symbols they wear.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by newWAYNEorder nWo nDubz (U23264)
posted 54 minutes ago
So if it's a "noble cause" but "obviously won't have 100% support" they should ignore it? If it had 100% support, they wouldn't need to promote and encourage it like this, THAT is why they do it.

You title this post HOMOPHOBIA i.e.dislike of or prejudice against gay people, you think we need to sweep it under the carpet?
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No, but if we are being realist then a very small % of people will have issues with either supporting or being seen to support it. Some for religious reasons. By all means discipline players for homophobic behaviour but I don't think we should discipline for someone asking not to promote a message based on somebody else's perceived morals.

I get that players are in the public eye but they are still employees. Can you imagine your employer asking you to wear a badge in support of some cause then fining you 2 weeks wages when you disagreed with supporting said cause for a reasonable excuse.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 minutes ago

Can you imagine your employer asking you to wear a badge in support of some cause then fining you 2 weeks wages when you disagreed with supporting said cause for a reasonable excuse.
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If you've signed a contract saying you'll wear what they provide, and you renege on that legal document, then you deserve to be punished.

Also, an imaginary invisible man that someone invented once, ISN'T a reasonable excuse.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by newWAYNEorder nWo nDubz (U23264)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 minutes ago

Can you imagine your employer asking you to wear a badge in support of some cause then fining you 2 weeks wages when you disagreed with supporting said cause for a reasonable excuse.
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If you've signed a contract saying you'll wear what they provide, and you renege on that legal document, then you deserve to be punished.

Also, an imaginary invisible man that someone invented once, ISN'T a reasonable excuse.
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what the imaginary invisible man says should actually take precedence over gay people being treated like people ACTUALLY.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by newWAYNEorder nWo nDubz (U23264)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 minutes ago

Can you imagine your employer asking you to wear a badge in support of some cause then fining you 2 weeks wages when you disagreed with supporting said cause for a reasonable excuse.
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If you've signed a contract saying you'll wear what they provide, and you renege on that legal document, then you deserve to be punished.

Also, an imaginary invisible man that someone invented once, ISN'T a reasonable excuse.
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I would add that clubs go out of their way to accommodate a players religious beliefs, rightly so. I don't see a problem with players wearing an armband once a season.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

Simon Murray was forced to wear a Dundee United strip/badge for two years despite it going against his beliefs as a Dundee fan. He didn't refuse and just wore the badge that he HATED. That's true professionalism. Silver advocating for players refusing to wear a team's shirt now if they disagree with any of the colours, imagery etc??

Celtic sponsored by Dafabet. Isn't gambling a sin in most religions?

Why aren't the religious ones at Celtic refusing to wear the shirt? You are saying they should.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

Who could forget AFC Richomond putting tape over their oil sponsors? Don't remember a huge hullabaloo about that one.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by newWAYNEorder nWo nDubz (U23264)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 minutes ago

Can you imagine your employer asking you to wear a badge in support of some cause then fining you 2 weeks wages when you disagreed with supporting said cause for a reasonable excuse.
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If you've signed a contract saying you'll wear what they provide, and you renege on that legal document, then you deserve to be punished.

Also, an imaginary invisible man that someone invented once, ISN'T a reasonable excuse.
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In your opinion, which is worth exactly as much as that of Nemanja Matic, to be fair.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

I just don't understand the point of these gestures if they're made mandatory. Then it's not making a statement, it's just forcing people to do things.

To me, "29 people voluntarily made this statement" holds a lot more significance than "30 people were made to make this statement."

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
comment by newWAYNEorder nWo nDubz (U23264)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 minutes ago

Can you imagine your employer asking you to wear a badge in support of some cause then fining you 2 weeks wages when you disagreed with supporting said cause for a reasonable excuse.
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If you've signed a contract saying you'll wear what they provide, and you renege on that legal document, then you deserve to be punished.

Also, an imaginary invisible man that someone invented once, ISN'T a reasonable excuse.
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I would add that clubs go out of their way to accommodate a players religious beliefs, rightly so. I don't see a problem with players wearing an armband once a season.
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So you’re saying it’s ok to drop your beliefs or morals for 90 minutes? Tbf we’re used to that in Glasgow.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
comment by newWAYNEorder nWo nDubz (U23264)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 minutes ago

Can you imagine your employer asking you to wear a badge in support of some cause then fining you 2 weeks wages when you disagreed with supporting said cause for a reasonable excuse.
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If you've signed a contract saying you'll wear what they provide, and you renege on that legal document, then you deserve to be punished.

Also, an imaginary invisible man that someone invented once, ISN'T a reasonable excuse.
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I would add that clubs go out of their way to accommodate a players religious beliefs, rightly so. I don't see a problem with players wearing an armband once a season.
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So you’re saying it’s ok to drop your beliefs or morals for 90 minutes? Tbf we’re used to that in Glasgow.
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Yeah I asked about the gambling or shirts

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by newWAYNEorder nWo nDubz (U23264)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 minutes ago

Can you imagine your employer asking you to wear a badge in support of some cause then fining you 2 weeks wages when you disagreed with supporting said cause for a reasonable excuse.
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If you've signed a contract saying you'll wear what they provide, and you renege on that legal document, then you deserve to be punished.

Also, an imaginary invisible man that someone invented once, ISN'T a reasonable excuse.
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You’re on the Linekar thread supporting his speaking out on his beliefs. OK so he was going anyway and can walk into another job easily should he want but you support him speaking out but you won’t support these players. Or is it just the cause you believe in that sways you?

Also, it doesn’t matter what you or I think about religion. I know this was secular France but in U.K. you cannot discriminate on the grounds of religion so it is a catch22 for authorities trying to force folk to support stuff, right?

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Trevor Carson (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
comment by newWAYNEorder nWo nDubz (U23264)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 minutes ago

Can you imagine your employer asking you to wear a badge in support of some cause then fining you 2 weeks wages when you disagreed with supporting said cause for a reasonable excuse.
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If you've signed a contract saying you'll wear what they provide, and you renege on that legal document, then you deserve to be punished.

Also, an imaginary invisible man that someone invented once, ISN'T a reasonable excuse.
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I would add that clubs go out of their way to accommodate a players religious beliefs, rightly so. I don't see a problem with players wearing an armband once a season.
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So you’re saying it’s ok to drop your beliefs or morals for 90 minutes? Tbf we’re used to that in Glasgow.
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Yeah I asked about the gambling or shirts
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Until you tell me who is against it for what religion then it’s a moot point.

Anyway, religious people tell me they’re able to pick and choose from the menu options when there isn’t a religion that exactly meets their beliefs.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches: “Games of chance (card games, etc.) or wagers are not in themselves contrary to justice. They become morally unacceptable when they deprive [people] of what is necessary to provide for [their] needs and those of other."

Aye so those gambling websites never cause any sort of if that trouble for the average person.

This ain't a wee game of cards mate. This is destroying people's lives.

And you favour promoting that over someone accidentally being gay?

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

But realistically gambling websites will be banned from football shirts pretty soon, because it's quite a lot worse for society than including something on a shirt in support of not hating gay people? Wouldn't you agree?

Might as well start advertising heroin on Celtic shirts. Now that would be effective cos it would normalise the addiction like with Celtic's plan to destroy the lives of those susceptible to gambling addiction. All so you can buy Jack Hendry.

Many, many lives destroyed. For a few games of Jack Hendry.

And that's what you want from your clubs.

"We don't hate gaays" on an armband?

OH NO THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

We should not be catering for some reetards who believe some thousands year old disinformation. If some flat earther covered up a world cup badge on his shirt cos it conducted ain't his views on the shape of the earth then he would be laughed out of the club. Why cater towards reetards who believe similar crap?

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

I think making these campaigns a generic message across shirts etc waters down the whole point, and is a bad idea.

But then again, I think objecting to wearing such a message is a pretty poor way thing to do.

No one comes out of it particularly well imo.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

Nonsense sky guy CRAP should not be forced upon us in society. If you want to believe the nonsense then you do that yourself but don't try and force it upon normal society. Matic should not be granted any sort of leniency for his mental illness. Is it time we classed believing in invisible sky guys as a mental illness? And if not, why not?

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Trevor Carson (U1734)
posted 16 minutes ago
Nonsense sky guy CRAP should not be forced upon us in society. If you want to believe the nonsense then you do that yourself but don't try and force it upon normal society. Matic should not be granted any sort of leniency for his mental illness. Is it time we classed believing in invisible sky guys as a mental illness? And if not, why not?
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Religion for most people is vey much a personal and private matter. The issue is when people become so in your face about it.

Don't think we should be tarnishing people with an illness just because they have a faith. It's what they outwardly do that should be challenged.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Hod idol (U5117)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Trevor Carson (U1734)
posted 16 minutes ago
Nonsense sky guy CRAP should not be forced upon us in society. If you want to believe the nonsense then you do that yourself but don't try and force it upon normal society. Matic should not be granted any sort of leniency for his mental illness. Is it time we classed believing in invisible sky guys as a mental illness? And if not, why not?
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Religion for most people is vey much a personal and private matter. The issue is when people become so in your face about it.

Don't think we should be tarnishing people with an illness just because they have a faith. It's what they outwardly do that should be challenged.

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If someone went to their doctor and said that there's some invisible guy in the sky telling him what to do, they'd be diagnosed with a mental illness. Why should someone who says that some sky guy tells them what to believe be taken any more seriously than say a flat earther, who at least it's some REAL nut on the internet influencing them?

Should religious people be banned from voting? Their view is compromised and shouldn't affect mentally sane people's lives in political decision making.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

Can you imagine your employer asking you to wear a badge in support of some cause then fining you 2 weeks wages when you disagreed with supporting said cause for a reasonable excuse.
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No one should be asked to wear something that goes against their beliefs or religion!

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by RED666.. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Roll on 2029! 🇬🇧. (U6562)
posted 3 minutes ago
Can you imagine your employer asking you to wear a badge in support of some cause then fining you 2 weeks wages when you disagreed with supporting said cause for a reasonable excuse.
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No one should be asked to wear something that goes against their beliefs or religion!
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Woke nonsense. Of course you should. So I can go to work naked because I claim that wearing clothes is against my religion? What makes my made up religion any less valid than your made up religion? Get religion out of civilised society NOW.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Trevor Carson (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago

If someone went to their doctor and said that there's some invisible guy in the sky telling him what to do, they'd be diagnosed with a mental illness. Why should someone who says that some sky guy tells them what to believe be taken any more seriously than say a flat earther, who at least it's some REAL nut on the internet influencing them?

Should religious people be banned from voting? Their view is compromised and shouldn't affect mentally sane people's lives in political decision making.

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To be fair, when someone says they really like caulk I have the same reaction to people that say god talks to them - they're clearly fricking mental. Ban them all from voting.

This isn't homophobia as I include straight women in this. Lesbians can still vote.

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