comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 4 hours, 13 minutes ago
Keir must’ve had time to bury the bodies. Now he’s OK with it.
No doubt a couple of ex- junior Labour councillors, ex- civil servants and ex- coppers will get thrown under the bus. Those truly culpable will be protected.
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The dumbest comment today.
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
I mean, the aim is to get these criminals regardless of skin colour, right?
Right?
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There is definitely way more focus on these cases because of the skin colour of the perpetrators; of that I have no doubt.
And it’s not just the poor, slimy gang r@pists’ fault. It’s also the fault of the equally slimy council members, police-chiefs and politicians. If those pesky criminals had have been white the people in power would have nipped the problem in the bud and we’d have made the whole nation fully aware of it and massively reduced the possibility of it happening again.
But instead it was Savilled.
Jimmy. Savilled.
If it had been white on the white they wouldn’t have been afraid to be seen as racist. If that was the real reason they turned a blind eye to one of the worst crimes imaginable.
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Good points Shin but the white on white is ongoing as we speak and there is no calls for an inquiry. You can try and look up the official stats for yourself.
These guys contribute very little to the overall body of these sexual offences in this country, majority is by white folk, and don't forget that minorities are more likely to live in more heavily policed areas, are more likely to be stopped, searched, arrested, charged and convicted than white folk so I'm waiting to see how exactly this was "Savilled" in this country. It would be an amazing feat. Its people like Saville, Epstein, Prince Andrew that usually get away with these things.
Also, I will wait to see what evidence is int he report because I don't believe this was Savilled the way it's being implied. If the evidence proves it then I will concede, but it's generally very very difficult for minorities to get away with such criminal activity.
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Good points also and definitely best to wait for the report, not that I would be totally trusting they'll reveal the whole truth anyway.
Regarding the current white on white problem, I rabbit-holed a few of those pa*do hunters a few years ago, I'd guess about 80% of those were white. 100% of them were sorry and will never do it again. I shouldn't laugh but, .
A short while after, I saw a clip from some awful morning show on ITV, whatever they call it now. It was saying about how the hunters were a problem that needed eradicating. Amazing.
And I am talking about the Savilleing being done by the people the crimes were reported to, not the criminals.
80% of the people caught by the hunters were white*
And I am talking about the Savilleing being done by the people the crimes were reported to, not the criminals.
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What would be the motive or what do these people benefit by Savilleing the abuse of young girls?
Regarding the current white on white problem, I rabbit-holed a few of those pa*do hunters a few years ago, I'd guess about 80% of those were white. 100% of them were sorry and will never do it again. I shouldn't laugh but,
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comment by Luka Tankulic (U1734)
posted 17 hours, 38 minutes ago
White Christian grooming gangs have been a huge problem in Scotland for many, many years. The white Christian church has a lot to answer for and glad it is being dealt with.
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Interestingly the largest paedophile network in Scottish history was headed by the (then) CEO of LGBT Youth Scotland.
Who ever could have thought that an adult male who dedicated his life to talking to young kids about secks would end up being a wrong'un?
Don't worry though as the organisation investigated themselves and found no further wrongdoing. It was him and only him...
Who ever could have thought that an adult male who dedicated his life to talking to young kids about secks would end up being a wrong'un?
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Paedos and pervs tend to choose careers that allow them easy and regular access to victims while suppressing suspicion that may crop up. They are cops, teachers, priests, pastors, counselors etc.
Never trust anyone.
Fun and entertaining conversation. not. 😒
At the end, Elon serves only as a political distraction. Shame being so wealthy has these types of consequences.
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 41 minutes ago
Who ever could have thought that an adult male who dedicated his life to talking to young kids about secks would end up being a wrong'un?
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Paedos and pervs tend to choose careers that allow them easy and regular access to victims while suppressing suspicion that may crop up. They are cops, teachers, priests, pastors, counselors etc.
Never trust anyone.
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I've said it before. Organized religion is knee deep in wrong-uns
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 41 minutes ago
Who ever could have thought that an adult male who dedicated his life to talking to young kids about secks would end up being a wrong'un?
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Paedos and pervs tend to choose careers that allow them easy and regular access to victims while suppressing suspicion that may crop up. They are cops, teachers, priests, pastors, counselors etc.
Never trust anyone.
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I've said it before. Organized religion is knee deep in wrong-uns
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Or despicable people like Welby the ex archbishop of Canterbury that allow it to happen
Should shut Kash up for a while
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 1 day, 12 hours ago
Is it an inquiry into all grooming gangs or just Asian grooming gangs? Bit of a waste spending so much time and money on what consists of something like 0.3% of total grooming offences in the country.
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I would hope that it is a enquiry into all grooming gangs with a view to providing more accurate data regarding ethnicity etc. There are questions about the current data and we can only be satisfied with more uniform recording of data across the counties.
The data either shows that there is a disproportionate number of Pakistani/Muslim men involved in these gangs, or it doesn't. If the doesn't show a disproportionate number, then it should help to quell the right wing rhetoric around the subject. If it does show that there is a disproportionate number involved, then there is the opportunity to reach out and educate these communities and show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way.
At this point I think that it is important to understand how The National Crime Agency’s Child Exploitation and Online Protection Command (CEOP) identifies two types of group-based child abuse.
It says in “Type 1” offenders work in groups such as grooming gangs to target victims based on vulnerability, while “Type 2” offenders form pe@dophile rings to carry out abuse because of a specific sexual interest in children.
With the Type 2 offenders you are unlikely to educate/talk them out of carrying out their abuse. With the Type 1 offenders, which existing data suggests is made of 75% by Asian men, there is a chance to educate and perhaps change their way of thinking and ensure their views aren't passed down to younger generations.
I can't see any downside to carrying out the inquiry.
I would also hope that the inquiry also looks at the extent that the crimes carried out by these grooming gangs was ignored/covered up by the various services and the reasoning for it. When you have ex-mayors and politicians from the affected areas saying that people were afraid to rock the cultural boat by investigating/discussing the topic, its not surprising that the general public are concerned.
We will see later today what Baroness Casey/her review has to say, but the review was tasked with:
- To look at further evidence including ethnicity data and demographics of gangs involved and their victims, including "cultural and societal drivers" for this type of offending
- To review existing data to "equip law enforcement with the information and understanding they need to combat these crimes"
- To establish what is known at "local and national levels" when it comes to child sexual abuse
I would hope that it is a enquiry into all grooming gangs
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Good luck with that.
The data either shows that there is a disproportionate number of Pakistani/Muslim men involved in these gangs, or it doesn't
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There's lots of crimes with overrepresentation out there. For example, drug users and possesors are more likely to be white but when you look at actual arrests and convictions you find more minority drug users are arrested than white folk.
How do the minorities get arrested more often for a crime that is committed far more often by the majority? Because it's a rigged system.
You're not even sure if there's an overrepresentation on this and still think it's justified to spend all that time and money.
If the gangs were white you'd see it as a waste of time and money.
We can all read between the lines of why this is being done and it is definitely needed....i just hope it doesn't' go the way that this article seems to be heading, where people are arguing about the perpetrators ethnicity rather than the heinous crimes we are talking about and how to stop them happening....it's not about Asian, White or Blacks, it's about the KIDS that are victims to these horrible people.
If it does show that there is a disproportionate number involved, then there is the opportunity to reach out and educate these communities and show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way.
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The aim is to catch these criminals regardless of race or whatever, not "show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way."
I know you don't realise but this comment shows the racial element in this affair and in your opinion of it.
Over 90% of young girls are abused by white men in this country. A very tiny percentage are abused by Asians. So who should be shown that young white girls are not trash to be exploited this way? The biggest exploiters are getting away Scott free while you chase some Asian lads.
Your girls are getting used and abused by white men as we speak while your attention is diverted to Asians, because the despicableness of a crime depends on the skin colour of the perpetrator, right?
I'm telling you child abuse is committed more by white folk. White people are overrepresented in these crimes actually. Check the current figures, and that's with less chance of getting arrested, charged and convicted of any crime, yet they top the charts.
Also, your info focuses on group based perverts when it is well know that white perverts are more likely to be sole operators and therefore very very difficult to catch and can abuse hundreds of victims before even raising an eyebrow.
Abuse of young girls is abuse of young girls, whether by an individual or by a group shouldn't matter. This whole thing is a sham.
You'd save many more young girls and catch more pervs by making an inquiry into white offenders than Asian offenders. This is a fact if you think about it. You'd catch more abusers and save more girls if you focussed on white folk. Fact.
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
The data either shows that there is a disproportionate number of Pakistani/Muslim men involved in these gangs, or it doesn't
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There's lots of crimes with overrepresentation out there. For example, drug users and possesors are more likely to be white but when you look at actual arrests and convictions you find more minority drug users are arrested than white folk.
How do the minorities get arrested more often for a crime that is committed far more often by the majority? Because it's a rigged system.
You're not even sure if there's an overrepresentation on this and still think it's justified to spend all that time and money.
If the gangs were white you'd see it as a waste of time and money.
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We can't be sure because there isn't a uniform system in place from what I can make out.
But yes, I think it is worth spending the money if there is a chance that the findings of the inquiry an help reduce the number of kids being abused. I won't make any excuse for that.
And I also think that it is important that the inquiry looks as why some children were failed and whether crimes were ignored because the authorities didn't want to upset certain minorities. That can't be allowed to happen. Especially when we are talking about such a heinous crime.
We will see what comes out of the review today, but I think it is noteworthy that Baroness Casey didn't initially think that a national inquiry was required, but has since changed her mind having undertaken her review.
We can't be sure because there isn't a uniform system in place from what I can make out
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Of course there's a system, it's the same system that records other crimes.
But of course it's no good for this particular crime, no?
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If it does show that there is a disproportionate number involved, then there is the opportunity to reach out and educate these communities and show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way.
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The aim is to catch these criminals regardless of race or whatever, not "show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way."
I know you don't realise but this comment shows the racial element in this affair and in your opinion of it.
Over 90% of young girls are abused by white men in this country. A very tiny percentage are abused by Asians. So who should be shown that young white girls are not trash to be exploited this way? The biggest exploiters are getting away Scott free while you chase some Asian lads.
Your girls are getting used and abused by white men as we speak while your attention is diverted to Asians, because the despicableness of a crime depends on the skin colour of the perpetrator, right?
I'm telling you child abuse is committed more by white folk. White people are overrepresented in these crimes actually. Check the current figures, and that's with less chance of getting arrested, charged and convicted of any crime, yet they top the charts.
Also, your info focuses on group based perverts when it is well know that white perverts are more likely to be sole operators and therefore very very difficult to catch and can abuse hundreds of victims before even raising an eyebrow.
Abuse of young girls is abuse of young girls, whether by an individual or by a group shouldn't matter. This whole thing is a sham.
You'd save many more young girls and catch more pervs by making an inquiry into white offenders than Asian offenders. This is a fact if you think about it. You'd catch more abusers and save more girls if you focussed on white folk. Fact.
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I think you misinterpreted what he was trying to say. He wasn't being racist suggesting that white girls aren't trash to be used by Asian men. He didn't mention Asian men.
What he meant is that white girls are superior to girls of other ethnicities.
But yes, I think it is worth spending the money if there is a chance that the findings of the inquiry an help reduce the number of kids being abused. I won't make any excuse for that.
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Agreed, it will stop a minority of kids being abused by a certain ethnicity, which is a good thing, but it will do little or nothing to help the majority of victims who are abused by a different ethnicity.
That's technically a waste of money and time as you could have done a lot more with a proper inquiry into all victims and all perps.
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If it does show that there is a disproportionate number involved, then there is the opportunity to reach out and educate these communities and show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way.
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The aim is to catch these criminals regardless of race or whatever, not "show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way."
I know you don't realise but this comment shows the racial element in this affair and in your opinion of it.
Over 90% of young girls are abused by white men in this country. A very tiny percentage are abused by Asians. So who should be shown that young white girls are not trash to be exploited this way? The biggest exploiters are getting away Scott free while you chase some Asian lads.
Your girls are getting used and abused by white men as we speak while your attention is diverted to Asians, because the despicableness of a crime depends on the skin colour of the perpetrator, right?
I'm telling you child abuse is committed more by white folk. White people are overrepresented in these crimes actually. Check the current figures, and that's with less chance of getting arrested, charged and convicted of any crime, yet they top the charts.
Also, your info focuses on group based perverts when it is well know that white perverts are more likely to be sole operators and therefore very very difficult to catch and can abuse hundreds of victims before even raising an eyebrow.
Abuse of young girls is abuse of young girls, whether by an individual or by a group shouldn't matter. This whole thing is a sham.
You'd save many more young girls and catch more pervs by making an inquiry into white offenders than Asian offenders. This is a fact if you think about it. You'd catch more abusers and save more girls if you focussed on white folk. Fact.
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Did you even read my point about Type 1 and Type 2 abusers and the opportunity to educate and prevent future generations from continuing the abuse? I can only assume not.
I detest all abusers of children. Whether its the grooming gangs, white pe@do rings, priests in the church or perverts operating on their own. But I think that there is only one group that you can impact through education and who can be targeted relatively easily. Assuming the data does show that there is an overrepresentation.
As for the latest data, how accurate is it at the moment? Last I heard it covered about 40% of local authorities. Which areas does it cover? We need to be a lot closer to 100% before we draw any proper conclusions.
I would also hope that the inquiry also looks at the extent that the crimes carried out by these grooming gangs was ignored/covered up by the various services and the reasoning for it. When you have ex-mayors and politicians from the affected areas saying that people were afraid to rock the cultural boat by investigating/discussing the topic, its not surprising that the general public are concerned.
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Can you name a few of these ex mayors and politicians and also the context in which their comments were made?
Maybe they didn't want to rock the boat because it would expose the incompetence or corruption in some police forces who took favours and bribes to look the other way.
That would be more plausible and make more sense to me than saying that the same authorities that arrest, charge and convict minorities at higher rates than white people are the same authorities that covered up the abuse of young white girls by Asians minorities. Makes sense, right?
But no, it had to be a cover up based on race. It can't be that dirty cops were either lazy, underfunded or just corrupt and allowed injustices to occur.
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
We can't be sure because there isn't a uniform system in place from what I can make out
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Of course there's a system, it's the same system that records other crimes.
But of course it's no good for this particular crime, no?
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Well I have read an article previously suggesting that there are different systems in place in different areas, regarding how crimes are categorised.
As for ethnicity, it is expected that 1 of Casey's recommendations will be that police forces must improve their collection of date in this area:
Police will be asked to improve collection of ethnicity data, BBC understands
published at 11:46
11:46
Joe Pike
Political and investigations correspondent
The BBC understands that one of Dame Louise Casey's 12 recommendations - which will be accepted by the government - is to order police forces in England to improve their collection of ethnicity data in child sexual abuse and exploitation cases.
Police forces in the UK currently use a system of six identity codes to record the ethnicity of suspects.
This change would be significant in relation to grooming gangs because in many high profile cases groups of men of Pakistani descent have been convicted of sexually abusing predominantly young white girls.
By collecting more detailed statistics sources say the police and government will be able to identify problems and trends, including when allegations do not lead to charges or convictions.
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posted on 15/6/25
Prince Andrew?
posted on 15/6/25
comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 4 hours, 13 minutes ago
Keir must’ve had time to bury the bodies. Now he’s OK with it.
No doubt a couple of ex- junior Labour councillors, ex- civil servants and ex- coppers will get thrown under the bus. Those truly culpable will be protected.
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The dumbest comment today.
posted on 15/6/25
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
I mean, the aim is to get these criminals regardless of skin colour, right?
Right?
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There is definitely way more focus on these cases because of the skin colour of the perpetrators; of that I have no doubt.
And it’s not just the poor, slimy gang r@pists’ fault. It’s also the fault of the equally slimy council members, police-chiefs and politicians. If those pesky criminals had have been white the people in power would have nipped the problem in the bud and we’d have made the whole nation fully aware of it and massively reduced the possibility of it happening again.
But instead it was Savilled.
Jimmy. Savilled.
If it had been white on the white they wouldn’t have been afraid to be seen as racist. If that was the real reason they turned a blind eye to one of the worst crimes imaginable.
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Good points Shin but the white on white is ongoing as we speak and there is no calls for an inquiry. You can try and look up the official stats for yourself.
These guys contribute very little to the overall body of these sexual offences in this country, majority is by white folk, and don't forget that minorities are more likely to live in more heavily policed areas, are more likely to be stopped, searched, arrested, charged and convicted than white folk so I'm waiting to see how exactly this was "Savilled" in this country. It would be an amazing feat. Its people like Saville, Epstein, Prince Andrew that usually get away with these things.
Also, I will wait to see what evidence is int he report because I don't believe this was Savilled the way it's being implied. If the evidence proves it then I will concede, but it's generally very very difficult for minorities to get away with such criminal activity.
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Good points also and definitely best to wait for the report, not that I would be totally trusting they'll reveal the whole truth anyway.
Regarding the current white on white problem, I rabbit-holed a few of those pa*do hunters a few years ago, I'd guess about 80% of those were white. 100% of them were sorry and will never do it again. I shouldn't laugh but, .
A short while after, I saw a clip from some awful morning show on ITV, whatever they call it now. It was saying about how the hunters were a problem that needed eradicating. Amazing.
And I am talking about the Savilleing being done by the people the crimes were reported to, not the criminals.
posted on 15/6/25
80% of the people caught by the hunters were white*
posted on 15/6/25
And I am talking about the Savilleing being done by the people the crimes were reported to, not the criminals.
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What would be the motive or what do these people benefit by Savilleing the abuse of young girls?
posted on 15/6/25
Regarding the current white on white problem, I rabbit-holed a few of those pa*do hunters a few years ago, I'd guess about 80% of those were white. 100% of them were sorry and will never do it again. I shouldn't laugh but,
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posted on 15/6/25
comment by Luka Tankulic (U1734)
posted 17 hours, 38 minutes ago
White Christian grooming gangs have been a huge problem in Scotland for many, many years. The white Christian church has a lot to answer for and glad it is being dealt with.
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Interestingly the largest paedophile network in Scottish history was headed by the (then) CEO of LGBT Youth Scotland.
Who ever could have thought that an adult male who dedicated his life to talking to young kids about secks would end up being a wrong'un?
Don't worry though as the organisation investigated themselves and found no further wrongdoing. It was him and only him...
posted on 15/6/25
Who ever could have thought that an adult male who dedicated his life to talking to young kids about secks would end up being a wrong'un?
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Paedos and pervs tend to choose careers that allow them easy and regular access to victims while suppressing suspicion that may crop up. They are cops, teachers, priests, pastors, counselors etc.
Never trust anyone.
posted on 15/6/25
Fun and entertaining conversation. not. 😒
At the end, Elon serves only as a political distraction. Shame being so wealthy has these types of consequences.
posted on 15/6/25
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 41 minutes ago
Who ever could have thought that an adult male who dedicated his life to talking to young kids about secks would end up being a wrong'un?
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Paedos and pervs tend to choose careers that allow them easy and regular access to victims while suppressing suspicion that may crop up. They are cops, teachers, priests, pastors, counselors etc.
Never trust anyone.
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I've said it before. Organized religion is knee deep in wrong-uns
posted on 15/6/25
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 41 minutes ago
Who ever could have thought that an adult male who dedicated his life to talking to young kids about secks would end up being a wrong'un?
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Paedos and pervs tend to choose careers that allow them easy and regular access to victims while suppressing suspicion that may crop up. They are cops, teachers, priests, pastors, counselors etc.
Never trust anyone.
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I've said it before. Organized religion is knee deep in wrong-uns
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Or despicable people like Welby the ex archbishop of Canterbury that allow it to happen
posted on 15/6/25
Should shut Kash up for a while
posted on 16/6/25
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 1 day, 12 hours ago
Is it an inquiry into all grooming gangs or just Asian grooming gangs? Bit of a waste spending so much time and money on what consists of something like 0.3% of total grooming offences in the country.
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I would hope that it is a enquiry into all grooming gangs with a view to providing more accurate data regarding ethnicity etc. There are questions about the current data and we can only be satisfied with more uniform recording of data across the counties.
The data either shows that there is a disproportionate number of Pakistani/Muslim men involved in these gangs, or it doesn't. If the doesn't show a disproportionate number, then it should help to quell the right wing rhetoric around the subject. If it does show that there is a disproportionate number involved, then there is the opportunity to reach out and educate these communities and show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way.
At this point I think that it is important to understand how The National Crime Agency’s Child Exploitation and Online Protection Command (CEOP) identifies two types of group-based child abuse.
It says in “Type 1” offenders work in groups such as grooming gangs to target victims based on vulnerability, while “Type 2” offenders form pe@dophile rings to carry out abuse because of a specific sexual interest in children.
With the Type 2 offenders you are unlikely to educate/talk them out of carrying out their abuse. With the Type 1 offenders, which existing data suggests is made of 75% by Asian men, there is a chance to educate and perhaps change their way of thinking and ensure their views aren't passed down to younger generations.
I can't see any downside to carrying out the inquiry.
I would also hope that the inquiry also looks at the extent that the crimes carried out by these grooming gangs was ignored/covered up by the various services and the reasoning for it. When you have ex-mayors and politicians from the affected areas saying that people were afraid to rock the cultural boat by investigating/discussing the topic, its not surprising that the general public are concerned.
posted on 16/6/25
We will see later today what Baroness Casey/her review has to say, but the review was tasked with:
- To look at further evidence including ethnicity data and demographics of gangs involved and their victims, including "cultural and societal drivers" for this type of offending
- To review existing data to "equip law enforcement with the information and understanding they need to combat these crimes"
- To establish what is known at "local and national levels" when it comes to child sexual abuse
posted on 16/6/25
I would hope that it is a enquiry into all grooming gangs
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Good luck with that.
posted on 16/6/25
The data either shows that there is a disproportionate number of Pakistani/Muslim men involved in these gangs, or it doesn't
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There's lots of crimes with overrepresentation out there. For example, drug users and possesors are more likely to be white but when you look at actual arrests and convictions you find more minority drug users are arrested than white folk.
How do the minorities get arrested more often for a crime that is committed far more often by the majority? Because it's a rigged system.
You're not even sure if there's an overrepresentation on this and still think it's justified to spend all that time and money.
If the gangs were white you'd see it as a waste of time and money.
posted on 16/6/25
We can all read between the lines of why this is being done and it is definitely needed....i just hope it doesn't' go the way that this article seems to be heading, where people are arguing about the perpetrators ethnicity rather than the heinous crimes we are talking about and how to stop them happening....it's not about Asian, White or Blacks, it's about the KIDS that are victims to these horrible people.
posted on 16/6/25
If it does show that there is a disproportionate number involved, then there is the opportunity to reach out and educate these communities and show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way.
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The aim is to catch these criminals regardless of race or whatever, not "show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way."
I know you don't realise but this comment shows the racial element in this affair and in your opinion of it.
Over 90% of young girls are abused by white men in this country. A very tiny percentage are abused by Asians. So who should be shown that young white girls are not trash to be exploited this way? The biggest exploiters are getting away Scott free while you chase some Asian lads.
Your girls are getting used and abused by white men as we speak while your attention is diverted to Asians, because the despicableness of a crime depends on the skin colour of the perpetrator, right?
I'm telling you child abuse is committed more by white folk. White people are overrepresented in these crimes actually. Check the current figures, and that's with less chance of getting arrested, charged and convicted of any crime, yet they top the charts.
Also, your info focuses on group based perverts when it is well know that white perverts are more likely to be sole operators and therefore very very difficult to catch and can abuse hundreds of victims before even raising an eyebrow.
Abuse of young girls is abuse of young girls, whether by an individual or by a group shouldn't matter. This whole thing is a sham.
You'd save many more young girls and catch more pervs by making an inquiry into white offenders than Asian offenders. This is a fact if you think about it. You'd catch more abusers and save more girls if you focussed on white folk. Fact.
posted on 16/6/25
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
The data either shows that there is a disproportionate number of Pakistani/Muslim men involved in these gangs, or it doesn't
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There's lots of crimes with overrepresentation out there. For example, drug users and possesors are more likely to be white but when you look at actual arrests and convictions you find more minority drug users are arrested than white folk.
How do the minorities get arrested more often for a crime that is committed far more often by the majority? Because it's a rigged system.
You're not even sure if there's an overrepresentation on this and still think it's justified to spend all that time and money.
If the gangs were white you'd see it as a waste of time and money.
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We can't be sure because there isn't a uniform system in place from what I can make out.
But yes, I think it is worth spending the money if there is a chance that the findings of the inquiry an help reduce the number of kids being abused. I won't make any excuse for that.
And I also think that it is important that the inquiry looks as why some children were failed and whether crimes were ignored because the authorities didn't want to upset certain minorities. That can't be allowed to happen. Especially when we are talking about such a heinous crime.
We will see what comes out of the review today, but I think it is noteworthy that Baroness Casey didn't initially think that a national inquiry was required, but has since changed her mind having undertaken her review.
posted on 16/6/25
We can't be sure because there isn't a uniform system in place from what I can make out
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Of course there's a system, it's the same system that records other crimes.
But of course it's no good for this particular crime, no?
posted on 16/6/25
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If it does show that there is a disproportionate number involved, then there is the opportunity to reach out and educate these communities and show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way.
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The aim is to catch these criminals regardless of race or whatever, not "show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way."
I know you don't realise but this comment shows the racial element in this affair and in your opinion of it.
Over 90% of young girls are abused by white men in this country. A very tiny percentage are abused by Asians. So who should be shown that young white girls are not trash to be exploited this way? The biggest exploiters are getting away Scott free while you chase some Asian lads.
Your girls are getting used and abused by white men as we speak while your attention is diverted to Asians, because the despicableness of a crime depends on the skin colour of the perpetrator, right?
I'm telling you child abuse is committed more by white folk. White people are overrepresented in these crimes actually. Check the current figures, and that's with less chance of getting arrested, charged and convicted of any crime, yet they top the charts.
Also, your info focuses on group based perverts when it is well know that white perverts are more likely to be sole operators and therefore very very difficult to catch and can abuse hundreds of victims before even raising an eyebrow.
Abuse of young girls is abuse of young girls, whether by an individual or by a group shouldn't matter. This whole thing is a sham.
You'd save many more young girls and catch more pervs by making an inquiry into white offenders than Asian offenders. This is a fact if you think about it. You'd catch more abusers and save more girls if you focussed on white folk. Fact.
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I think you misinterpreted what he was trying to say. He wasn't being racist suggesting that white girls aren't trash to be used by Asian men. He didn't mention Asian men.
What he meant is that white girls are superior to girls of other ethnicities.
posted on 16/6/25
But yes, I think it is worth spending the money if there is a chance that the findings of the inquiry an help reduce the number of kids being abused. I won't make any excuse for that.
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Agreed, it will stop a minority of kids being abused by a certain ethnicity, which is a good thing, but it will do little or nothing to help the majority of victims who are abused by a different ethnicity.
That's technically a waste of money and time as you could have done a lot more with a proper inquiry into all victims and all perps.
posted on 16/6/25
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If it does show that there is a disproportionate number involved, then there is the opportunity to reach out and educate these communities and show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way.
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The aim is to catch these criminals regardless of race or whatever, not "show that young white girls are not trash to be exploited in this way."
I know you don't realise but this comment shows the racial element in this affair and in your opinion of it.
Over 90% of young girls are abused by white men in this country. A very tiny percentage are abused by Asians. So who should be shown that young white girls are not trash to be exploited this way? The biggest exploiters are getting away Scott free while you chase some Asian lads.
Your girls are getting used and abused by white men as we speak while your attention is diverted to Asians, because the despicableness of a crime depends on the skin colour of the perpetrator, right?
I'm telling you child abuse is committed more by white folk. White people are overrepresented in these crimes actually. Check the current figures, and that's with less chance of getting arrested, charged and convicted of any crime, yet they top the charts.
Also, your info focuses on group based perverts when it is well know that white perverts are more likely to be sole operators and therefore very very difficult to catch and can abuse hundreds of victims before even raising an eyebrow.
Abuse of young girls is abuse of young girls, whether by an individual or by a group shouldn't matter. This whole thing is a sham.
You'd save many more young girls and catch more pervs by making an inquiry into white offenders than Asian offenders. This is a fact if you think about it. You'd catch more abusers and save more girls if you focussed on white folk. Fact.
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Did you even read my point about Type 1 and Type 2 abusers and the opportunity to educate and prevent future generations from continuing the abuse? I can only assume not.
I detest all abusers of children. Whether its the grooming gangs, white pe@do rings, priests in the church or perverts operating on their own. But I think that there is only one group that you can impact through education and who can be targeted relatively easily. Assuming the data does show that there is an overrepresentation.
As for the latest data, how accurate is it at the moment? Last I heard it covered about 40% of local authorities. Which areas does it cover? We need to be a lot closer to 100% before we draw any proper conclusions.
posted on 16/6/25
I would also hope that the inquiry also looks at the extent that the crimes carried out by these grooming gangs was ignored/covered up by the various services and the reasoning for it. When you have ex-mayors and politicians from the affected areas saying that people were afraid to rock the cultural boat by investigating/discussing the topic, its not surprising that the general public are concerned.
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Can you name a few of these ex mayors and politicians and also the context in which their comments were made?
Maybe they didn't want to rock the boat because it would expose the incompetence or corruption in some police forces who took favours and bribes to look the other way.
That would be more plausible and make more sense to me than saying that the same authorities that arrest, charge and convict minorities at higher rates than white people are the same authorities that covered up the abuse of young white girls by Asians minorities. Makes sense, right?
But no, it had to be a cover up based on race. It can't be that dirty cops were either lazy, underfunded or just corrupt and allowed injustices to occur.
posted on 16/6/25
comment by No Løve (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
We can't be sure because there isn't a uniform system in place from what I can make out
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Of course there's a system, it's the same system that records other crimes.
But of course it's no good for this particular crime, no?
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Well I have read an article previously suggesting that there are different systems in place in different areas, regarding how crimes are categorised.
As for ethnicity, it is expected that 1 of Casey's recommendations will be that police forces must improve their collection of date in this area:
Police will be asked to improve collection of ethnicity data, BBC understands
published at 11:46
11:46
Joe Pike
Political and investigations correspondent
The BBC understands that one of Dame Louise Casey's 12 recommendations - which will be accepted by the government - is to order police forces in England to improve their collection of ethnicity data in child sexual abuse and exploitation cases.
Police forces in the UK currently use a system of six identity codes to record the ethnicity of suspects.
This change would be significant in relation to grooming gangs because in many high profile cases groups of men of Pakistani descent have been convicted of sexually abusing predominantly young white girls.
By collecting more detailed statistics sources say the police and government will be able to identify problems and trends, including when allegations do not lead to charges or convictions.
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