He was at his best when he had Jesus rotating with him to get him in more central areas to score goals. Gyokeres does like to drive from the left, so maybe there's something there.
If we can get Eze, he can create more than Martinelli can from that position for sure.
Would love Eze at Arsenal but he is not the solution for left winger. Only started there 4 times last season. We need pace and goals
Feels like Marti has used up his chances and thats why we wanted Madueke and still want Eze. I can't remember a player ever getting as many excuses as Martinelli has got over the past few seasons - everyone from Zinchenko, Havertz, Rice has been used as a reason why he doesn't perform as well as he did 4 years ago.
That goal at bernabeu has given him another chance
comment by 50 No longer trusting the process (U1147)
posted 37 minutes ago
That goal at bernabeu has given him another chance
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lol he literally ran in a straight line from the middle on the pitch. It was a good finish.
If he was out wide he would have been head down and most likely fluffed and easy pass as he doesnt look up most of the time.
PS i dont want him sold but i can criticize a player if his performances are dross.
Rafael Leao??? Really? Would be a downgrade on Martinelli.
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
He was at his best when he had Jesus rotating with him to get him in more central areas to score goals. Gyokeres does like to drive from the left, so maybe there's something there.
If we can get Eze, he can create more than Martinelli can from that position for sure.
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whats the story with Jesus?
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
He was at his best when he had Jesus rotating with him to get him in more central areas to score goals. Gyokeres does like to drive from the left, so maybe there's something there.
If we can get Eze, he can create more than Martinelli can from that position for sure.
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We don't need Eze. We have Dowman.
comment by Blarmpions of the World (U14547)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
He was at his best when he had Jesus rotating with him to get him in more central areas to score goals. Gyokeres does like to drive from the left, so maybe there's something there.
If we can get Eze, he can create more than Martinelli can from that position for sure.
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whats the story with Jesus?
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He got crucified 😢
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Blarmpions of the World (U14547)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
He was at his best when he had Jesus rotating with him to get him in more central areas to score goals. Gyokeres does like to drive from the left, so maybe there's something there.
If we can get Eze, he can create more than Martinelli can from that position for sure.
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whats the story with Jesus?
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He got crucified 😢
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Well he is being flogged back to Brazil from what i can see...
Personally think last season should of been his last chance whether that would of meant a transfer or relegated to second choice in that position is up for debate. The two main issues for me firstly being he simply hasn't trained on from that early promise he showed his end product more often than not is poor and in front of goal I'd prefer Trossard. Secondly which isn't necessarily his fault we have most definitely changed the way we play in the last two seasons with a slower more precise build up we are not seeing nearly enough balls into space for a player to run onto. The argument against that would be that we don't get as much space now as we did which is fair but even so the amount of times I watched a player make a run and the player in posession decide to go square or backwards was just ridiculous at times. All in all I would move him on partly just for his own career he's got good traits which are being wasted at the moment.
comment by Blarmpions of the World (U14547)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Blarmpions of the World (U14547)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
He was at his best when he had Jesus rotating with him to get him in more central areas to score goals. Gyokeres does like to drive from the left, so maybe there's something there.
If we can get Eze, he can create more than Martinelli can from that position for sure.
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whats the story with Jesus?
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He got crucified 😢
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Well he is being flogged back to Brazil from what i can see...
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He shares quite a bit on social media. He's barely through with his recovery and rehabilitation. Still working in the gym on his own.
Doesn't look like he will be involved in any transfers any time soon.
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
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For what it would cost Rodrygo is not a massive upgrade his numbers are not fantastic. Given where Milan are at the moment as a club the fact that Leao is still at Milan probably says a few things about him.
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posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
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For what it would cost Rodrygo is not a massive upgrade his numbers are not fantastic. Given where Milan are at the moment as a club the fact that Leao is still at Milan probably says a few things about him.
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Both Leao and Rodrygo are massive upgrades on Martenilli. You're mad if you think Martenilli is anywhere close to them two.
Let's stop pretending Martinelli is a player he's not. He's been here for years and hasn't kicked on. He's reached his peak levels which show him to be just an average footballer who's lucky to still be at arsenal.
Any other top club would have sold him a few years ago.
A front 3 of Saka...Gyokeres...Leao/Rodrygo already puts the fear factor into teams before stepping onto the pitch.
Leao and Rodrygo both overrated for what they would cost.
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posted 13 hours, 46 minutes ago
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posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
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For what it would cost Rodrygo is not a massive upgrade his numbers are not fantastic. Given where Milan are at the moment as a club the fact that Leao is still at Milan probably says a few things about him.
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Both Leao and Rodrygo are massive upgrades on Martenilli. You're mad if you think Martenilli is anywhere close to them two.
Let's stop pretending Martinelli is a player he's not. He's been here for years and hasn't kicked on. He's reached his peak levels which show him to be just an average footballer who's lucky to still be at arsenal.
Any other top club would have sold him a few years ago.
A front 3 of Saka...Gyokeres...Leao/Rodrygo already puts the fear factor into teams before stepping onto the pitch.
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Martinelli is not an average player. He hasn't kicked-on like Saka has but he is potentially an excellent winger who is direct, can dribble and is the type that full-backs hate to mark.
He has suffered from a lack of a regular partner on the left so doesn't see the ball as often as Saka.
Having said all that, he hasn't fulfilled his potential and needs to perform now. No more blaming his age for quiet performances.
Needs to get on the training ground with MLS and Rice and work on those partnerships down that side. Practice with his shooting as can be pretty erratic and then hopefully we'll see the player he looked like he could be 2 years ago.
Is in the last chance saloon though.
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 13 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
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For what it would cost Rodrygo is not a massive upgrade his numbers are not fantastic. Given where Milan are at the moment as a club the fact that Leao is still at Milan probably says a few things about him.
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Both Leao and Rodrygo are massive upgrades on Martenilli. You're mad if you think Martenilli is anywhere close to them two.
Let's stop pretending Martinelli is a player he's not. He's been here for years and hasn't kicked on. He's reached his peak levels which show him to be just an average footballer who's lucky to still be at arsenal.
Any other top club would have sold him a few years ago.
A front 3 of Saka...Gyokeres...Leao/Rodrygo already puts the fear factor into teams before stepping onto the pitch.
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Martinelli is not an average player. He hasn't kicked-on like Saka has but he is potentially an excellent winger who is direct, can dribble and is the type that full-backs hate to mark.
He has suffered from a lack of a regular partner on the left so doesn't see the ball as often as Saka.
Having said all that, he hasn't fulfilled his potential and needs to perform now. No more blaming his age for quiet performances.
Needs to get on the training ground with MLS and Rice and work on those partnerships down that side. Practice with his shooting as can be pretty erratic and then hopefully we'll see the player he looked like he could be 2 years ago.
Is in the last chance saloon though.
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The guy is on the training pitch everyday..for years. It's his full time job. Accept the fact that Martinelli will not get any better. What you're seeing now, is his level. He's an average football player. Stop waiting for him reach a level that he's just never going to reach.
He's not good enough, never will be and needs replaced.
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 13 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
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For what it would cost Rodrygo is not a massive upgrade his numbers are not fantastic. Given where Milan are at the moment as a club the fact that Leao is still at Milan probably says a few things about him.
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Both Leao and Rodrygo are massive upgrades on Martenilli. You're mad if you think Martenilli is anywhere close to them two.
Let's stop pretending Martinelli is a player he's not. He's been here for years and hasn't kicked on. He's reached his peak levels which show him to be just an average footballer who's lucky to still be at arsenal.
Any other top club would have sold him a few years ago.
A front 3 of Saka...Gyokeres...Leao/Rodrygo already puts the fear factor into teams before stepping onto the pitch.
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Martinelli is not an average player. He hasn't kicked-on like Saka has but he is potentially an excellent winger who is direct, can dribble and is the type that full-backs hate to mark.
He has suffered from a lack of a regular partner on the left so doesn't see the ball as often as Saka.
Having said all that, he hasn't fulfilled his potential and needs to perform now. No more blaming his age for quiet performances.
Needs to get on the training ground with MLS and Rice and work on those partnerships down that side. Practice with his shooting as can be pretty erratic and then hopefully we'll see the player he looked like he could be 2 years ago.
Is in the last chance saloon though.
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The guy is on the training pitch everyday..for years. It's his full time job. Accept the fact that Martinelli will not get any better. What you're seeing now, is his level. He's an average football player. Stop waiting for him reach a level that he's just never going to reach.
He's not good enough, never will be and needs replaced.
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You've obviously only read the first few words of what i said. Of course he can improve as he's barely 24 years old. Whether he does or not is a different question but saying he can't is basically incorrect.
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 13 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
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For what it would cost Rodrygo is not a massive upgrade his numbers are not fantastic. Given where Milan are at the moment as a club the fact that Leao is still at Milan probably says a few things about him.
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Both Leao and Rodrygo are massive upgrades on Martenilli. You're mad if you think Martenilli is anywhere close to them two.
Let's stop pretending Martinelli is a player he's not. He's been here for years and hasn't kicked on. He's reached his peak levels which show him to be just an average footballer who's lucky to still be at arsenal.
Any other top club would have sold him a few years ago.
A front 3 of Saka...Gyokeres...Leao/Rodrygo already puts the fear factor into teams before stepping onto the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Martinelli is not an average player. He hasn't kicked-on like Saka has but he is potentially an excellent winger who is direct, can dribble and is the type that full-backs hate to mark.
He has suffered from a lack of a regular partner on the left so doesn't see the ball as often as Saka.
Having said all that, he hasn't fulfilled his potential and needs to perform now. No more blaming his age for quiet performances.
Needs to get on the training ground with MLS and Rice and work on those partnerships down that side. Practice with his shooting as can be pretty erratic and then hopefully we'll see the player he looked like he could be 2 years ago.
Is in the last chance saloon though.
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The guy is on the training pitch everyday..for years. It's his full time job. Accept the fact that Martinelli will not get any better. What you're seeing now, is his level. He's an average football player. Stop waiting for him reach a level that he's just never going to reach.
He's not good enough, never will be and needs replaced.
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You've obviously only read the first few words of what i said. Of course he can improve as he's barely 24 years old. Whether he does or not is a different question but saying he can't is basically incorrect.
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I read the full message mate but I just disagree with most parts.
We've all been saying for a few seasons now "he has potential" "he could reach this height" and at what point do we accept that he won't get there? I don't feel like we should waste a other season waiting to see if he will turn good when the proof is already there.
Eze should replace Trossard.
The idea is obviously for Eze to start left wing but come into the middle to use the space Gyokeres will leave as he moves to the left, like Henry and Pires used to interchange.
I would think Martinelli will start with Havertz.
I hoped we would replace Martinelli with Rodrygo, but obviously that does not seem possible with the lack of interest in Martinelli.
Eze replaces Trossard.
And tbh we have done a similar thing with Madueke but on the right.
Saka is very much like Eze.
We make a lot of excuses for Martinelli's poor output in attack, by pointing out his "workrate" and readiness to help out at the back. I certainly do.
Trossard has been at Arsenal for 2 and a half seasons now.
Over the past 2 full seasons, he has scored more than Martinelli across all competitions. (27 vs 18)
He has put in as many tackles than Martinelli. (70 vs 71)
And made more interceptions. (25 vs 15)
As a result, Trossard has picked up 7 bookings (1 red, 6 yellows), while Martinelli has only been booked 4 times (all yellows) over the same period.
However, Martinelli has been dribbled past fewer times than Trossard. But not by that much. ( 44 vs 52)
Martinelli only really edges Trossard out in aerial duels. Which is understandable as the Belgian is a midget.
Plus the fact that he's 6 years younger.
Hardly a strong case for the Brazilian, at the end of the day. We could really do better than him.
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posted on 28/7/25
He was at his best when he had Jesus rotating with him to get him in more central areas to score goals. Gyokeres does like to drive from the left, so maybe there's something there.
If we can get Eze, he can create more than Martinelli can from that position for sure.
posted on 28/7/25
Would love Eze at Arsenal but he is not the solution for left winger. Only started there 4 times last season. We need pace and goals
posted on 28/7/25
Feels like Marti has used up his chances and thats why we wanted Madueke and still want Eze. I can't remember a player ever getting as many excuses as Martinelli has got over the past few seasons - everyone from Zinchenko, Havertz, Rice has been used as a reason why he doesn't perform as well as he did 4 years ago.
posted on 28/7/25
That goal at bernabeu has given him another chance
posted on 28/7/25
comment by 50 No longer trusting the process (U1147)
posted 37 minutes ago
That goal at bernabeu has given him another chance
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lol he literally ran in a straight line from the middle on the pitch. It was a good finish.
If he was out wide he would have been head down and most likely fluffed and easy pass as he doesnt look up most of the time.
PS i dont want him sold but i can criticize a player if his performances are dross.
posted on 28/7/25
Rafael Leao??? Really? Would be a downgrade on Martinelli.
posted on 28/7/25
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
He was at his best when he had Jesus rotating with him to get him in more central areas to score goals. Gyokeres does like to drive from the left, so maybe there's something there.
If we can get Eze, he can create more than Martinelli can from that position for sure.
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whats the story with Jesus?
posted on 28/7/25
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
He was at his best when he had Jesus rotating with him to get him in more central areas to score goals. Gyokeres does like to drive from the left, so maybe there's something there.
If we can get Eze, he can create more than Martinelli can from that position for sure.
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We don't need Eze. We have Dowman.
posted on 28/7/25
comment by Blarmpions of the World (U14547)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
He was at his best when he had Jesus rotating with him to get him in more central areas to score goals. Gyokeres does like to drive from the left, so maybe there's something there.
If we can get Eze, he can create more than Martinelli can from that position for sure.
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whats the story with Jesus?
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He got crucified 😢
posted on 28/7/25
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Blarmpions of the World (U14547)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
He was at his best when he had Jesus rotating with him to get him in more central areas to score goals. Gyokeres does like to drive from the left, so maybe there's something there.
If we can get Eze, he can create more than Martinelli can from that position for sure.
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whats the story with Jesus?
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He got crucified 😢
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Well he is being flogged back to Brazil from what i can see...
posted on 28/7/25
Personally think last season should of been his last chance whether that would of meant a transfer or relegated to second choice in that position is up for debate. The two main issues for me firstly being he simply hasn't trained on from that early promise he showed his end product more often than not is poor and in front of goal I'd prefer Trossard. Secondly which isn't necessarily his fault we have most definitely changed the way we play in the last two seasons with a slower more precise build up we are not seeing nearly enough balls into space for a player to run onto. The argument against that would be that we don't get as much space now as we did which is fair but even so the amount of times I watched a player make a run and the player in posession decide to go square or backwards was just ridiculous at times. All in all I would move him on partly just for his own career he's got good traits which are being wasted at the moment.
posted on 28/7/25
comment by Blarmpions of the World (U14547)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Blarmpions of the World (U14547)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
He was at his best when he had Jesus rotating with him to get him in more central areas to score goals. Gyokeres does like to drive from the left, so maybe there's something there.
If we can get Eze, he can create more than Martinelli can from that position for sure.
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whats the story with Jesus?
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He got crucified 😢
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Well he is being flogged back to Brazil from what i can see...
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He shares quite a bit on social media. He's barely through with his recovery and rehabilitation. Still working in the gym on his own.
Doesn't look like he will be involved in any transfers any time soon.
posted on 28/7/25
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
posted on 28/7/25
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
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For what it would cost Rodrygo is not a massive upgrade his numbers are not fantastic. Given where Milan are at the moment as a club the fact that Leao is still at Milan probably says a few things about him.
posted on 28/7/25
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
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For what it would cost Rodrygo is not a massive upgrade his numbers are not fantastic. Given where Milan are at the moment as a club the fact that Leao is still at Milan probably says a few things about him.
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Both Leao and Rodrygo are massive upgrades on Martenilli. You're mad if you think Martenilli is anywhere close to them two.
Let's stop pretending Martinelli is a player he's not. He's been here for years and hasn't kicked on. He's reached his peak levels which show him to be just an average footballer who's lucky to still be at arsenal.
Any other top club would have sold him a few years ago.
A front 3 of Saka...Gyokeres...Leao/Rodrygo already puts the fear factor into teams before stepping onto the pitch.
posted on 29/7/25
Leao and Rodrygo both overrated for what they would cost.
posted on 29/7/25
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 13 hours, 46 minutes ago
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posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
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For what it would cost Rodrygo is not a massive upgrade his numbers are not fantastic. Given where Milan are at the moment as a club the fact that Leao is still at Milan probably says a few things about him.
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Both Leao and Rodrygo are massive upgrades on Martenilli. You're mad if you think Martenilli is anywhere close to them two.
Let's stop pretending Martinelli is a player he's not. He's been here for years and hasn't kicked on. He's reached his peak levels which show him to be just an average footballer who's lucky to still be at arsenal.
Any other top club would have sold him a few years ago.
A front 3 of Saka...Gyokeres...Leao/Rodrygo already puts the fear factor into teams before stepping onto the pitch.
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Martinelli is not an average player. He hasn't kicked-on like Saka has but he is potentially an excellent winger who is direct, can dribble and is the type that full-backs hate to mark.
He has suffered from a lack of a regular partner on the left so doesn't see the ball as often as Saka.
Having said all that, he hasn't fulfilled his potential and needs to perform now. No more blaming his age for quiet performances.
Needs to get on the training ground with MLS and Rice and work on those partnerships down that side. Practice with his shooting as can be pretty erratic and then hopefully we'll see the player he looked like he could be 2 years ago.
Is in the last chance saloon though.
posted on 29/7/25
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 13 hours, 46 minutes ago
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posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
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For what it would cost Rodrygo is not a massive upgrade his numbers are not fantastic. Given where Milan are at the moment as a club the fact that Leao is still at Milan probably says a few things about him.
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Both Leao and Rodrygo are massive upgrades on Martenilli. You're mad if you think Martenilli is anywhere close to them two.
Let's stop pretending Martinelli is a player he's not. He's been here for years and hasn't kicked on. He's reached his peak levels which show him to be just an average footballer who's lucky to still be at arsenal.
Any other top club would have sold him a few years ago.
A front 3 of Saka...Gyokeres...Leao/Rodrygo already puts the fear factor into teams before stepping onto the pitch.
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Martinelli is not an average player. He hasn't kicked-on like Saka has but he is potentially an excellent winger who is direct, can dribble and is the type that full-backs hate to mark.
He has suffered from a lack of a regular partner on the left so doesn't see the ball as often as Saka.
Having said all that, he hasn't fulfilled his potential and needs to perform now. No more blaming his age for quiet performances.
Needs to get on the training ground with MLS and Rice and work on those partnerships down that side. Practice with his shooting as can be pretty erratic and then hopefully we'll see the player he looked like he could be 2 years ago.
Is in the last chance saloon though.
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The guy is on the training pitch everyday..for years. It's his full time job. Accept the fact that Martinelli will not get any better. What you're seeing now, is his level. He's an average football player. Stop waiting for him reach a level that he's just never going to reach.
He's not good enough, never will be and needs replaced.
posted on 29/7/25
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 13 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
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For what it would cost Rodrygo is not a massive upgrade his numbers are not fantastic. Given where Milan are at the moment as a club the fact that Leao is still at Milan probably says a few things about him.
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Both Leao and Rodrygo are massive upgrades on Martenilli. You're mad if you think Martenilli is anywhere close to them two.
Let's stop pretending Martinelli is a player he's not. He's been here for years and hasn't kicked on. He's reached his peak levels which show him to be just an average footballer who's lucky to still be at arsenal.
Any other top club would have sold him a few years ago.
A front 3 of Saka...Gyokeres...Leao/Rodrygo already puts the fear factor into teams before stepping onto the pitch.
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Martinelli is not an average player. He hasn't kicked-on like Saka has but he is potentially an excellent winger who is direct, can dribble and is the type that full-backs hate to mark.
He has suffered from a lack of a regular partner on the left so doesn't see the ball as often as Saka.
Having said all that, he hasn't fulfilled his potential and needs to perform now. No more blaming his age for quiet performances.
Needs to get on the training ground with MLS and Rice and work on those partnerships down that side. Practice with his shooting as can be pretty erratic and then hopefully we'll see the player he looked like he could be 2 years ago.
Is in the last chance saloon though.
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The guy is on the training pitch everyday..for years. It's his full time job. Accept the fact that Martinelli will not get any better. What you're seeing now, is his level. He's an average football player. Stop waiting for him reach a level that he's just never going to reach.
He's not good enough, never will be and needs replaced.
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You've obviously only read the first few words of what i said. Of course he can improve as he's barely 24 years old. Whether he does or not is a different question but saying he can't is basically incorrect.
posted on 29/7/25
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 13 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Arsenalred49 (U21433)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's such an over rated player. He's had one decent/ok season with us since he's joined. Every other season he's been poor and offered nothing.
He's not a great technically and can't do the basics as to what a player in his position should be able to do...get past his man.
He's a westham/Fulham level standard and should have been sold a few years ago. Not good enough to be at a top 6 club.
I don't get his hype. Massively overrated to even be calling him decent. Replace his with a quality winger (leao/rodrygo) and we'll walk the league. Not buying Eze as our LW. Doesn't fix the issue
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For what it would cost Rodrygo is not a massive upgrade his numbers are not fantastic. Given where Milan are at the moment as a club the fact that Leao is still at Milan probably says a few things about him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both Leao and Rodrygo are massive upgrades on Martenilli. You're mad if you think Martenilli is anywhere close to them two.
Let's stop pretending Martinelli is a player he's not. He's been here for years and hasn't kicked on. He's reached his peak levels which show him to be just an average footballer who's lucky to still be at arsenal.
Any other top club would have sold him a few years ago.
A front 3 of Saka...Gyokeres...Leao/Rodrygo already puts the fear factor into teams before stepping onto the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Martinelli is not an average player. He hasn't kicked-on like Saka has but he is potentially an excellent winger who is direct, can dribble and is the type that full-backs hate to mark.
He has suffered from a lack of a regular partner on the left so doesn't see the ball as often as Saka.
Having said all that, he hasn't fulfilled his potential and needs to perform now. No more blaming his age for quiet performances.
Needs to get on the training ground with MLS and Rice and work on those partnerships down that side. Practice with his shooting as can be pretty erratic and then hopefully we'll see the player he looked like he could be 2 years ago.
Is in the last chance saloon though.
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The guy is on the training pitch everyday..for years. It's his full time job. Accept the fact that Martinelli will not get any better. What you're seeing now, is his level. He's an average football player. Stop waiting for him reach a level that he's just never going to reach.
He's not good enough, never will be and needs replaced.
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You've obviously only read the first few words of what i said. Of course he can improve as he's barely 24 years old. Whether he does or not is a different question but saying he can't is basically incorrect.
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I read the full message mate but I just disagree with most parts.
We've all been saying for a few seasons now "he has potential" "he could reach this height" and at what point do we accept that he won't get there? I don't feel like we should waste a other season waiting to see if he will turn good when the proof is already there.
posted on 29/7/25
Eze should replace Trossard.
posted on 29/7/25
The idea is obviously for Eze to start left wing but come into the middle to use the space Gyokeres will leave as he moves to the left, like Henry and Pires used to interchange.
posted on 29/7/25
I would think Martinelli will start with Havertz.
I hoped we would replace Martinelli with Rodrygo, but obviously that does not seem possible with the lack of interest in Martinelli.
Eze replaces Trossard.
And tbh we have done a similar thing with Madueke but on the right.
Saka is very much like Eze.
posted on 29/7/25
We make a lot of excuses for Martinelli's poor output in attack, by pointing out his "workrate" and readiness to help out at the back. I certainly do.
Trossard has been at Arsenal for 2 and a half seasons now.
Over the past 2 full seasons, he has scored more than Martinelli across all competitions. (27 vs 18)
He has put in as many tackles than Martinelli. (70 vs 71)
And made more interceptions. (25 vs 15)
As a result, Trossard has picked up 7 bookings (1 red, 6 yellows), while Martinelli has only been booked 4 times (all yellows) over the same period.
However, Martinelli has been dribbled past fewer times than Trossard. But not by that much. ( 44 vs 52)
Martinelli only really edges Trossard out in aerial duels. Which is understandable as the Belgian is a midget.
Plus the fact that he's 6 years younger.
Hardly a strong case for the Brazilian, at the end of the day. We could really do better than him.
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