you forget hargreaves and owen?
i agreed with the majority of this til you wrote 'rooney has to go to the world cup and has to be involved in some capacity as he is englands best player by a country mile'
yes he may still be selected but not our best player by a country mile - maybe the best striker at the present time but doesnt make him the best overall
also, i appreciate Walker has played ever so well at right back and i am naturally biased to give Martin Kelly a mention for that slot too altho ill give you Walker on current form
If Rooney isn't our best player then who is may I ask?
i dont know, im from Wales
All im saying is it grates me when people say 'so and so is the best player in that team by far'
Cole is probably your most consistent defender and there is no better English keeper than Hart at the moment. I rate Parker as the best-at-present midfielder
and Rooney best striker
its only an opinion
Team game for me, Rooney will get the headlines for the goals but if Joe Hart saves England in a shoot out he could claim to be a saviour
Lets just see!
lol you say rooney is not the best english player then you propose parker hart and cole. I think you would have to travel far and wide to find a person that agrees with you that these players are as good as rooney
nope
not once did i state that you tool
best in their positions i.e Cole better left back than Rooney - i think people would agree
Hart better Keeper than Rooney - again a valid point
and lastly Parker better anchor man than Rooney? ok Rooney may do a good job there!
and to even it out - rooney is a better striker than hart, parker and cole
that was my point
and just to really get you to understand, yes Messi is amazing and excels greatly in his forward position at Barca and for Argentina
but he and other professional with anounce of humility will say they arent the best overall player in there team as he'd be a $hite centre back, keeper, right back and holding midfileder
why in the name of rooneys left testi are you elling me that ashley cole is a better left back than rooney as a response to me saying rooney is englands best player. i think when i say that it goes without saying that what i mean is that in terms of importance to th team and ability he is the best. only a donkey would see the obvious fact that rooney is not as good a left back as ashley cole as even worth mentioning
Well in terms of talent people are correct to say Rooney is the best England player by far, even if he doesn't always use it all the time. He has alot more in his locker than the likes of Cole and Hart, eventhough they are talented themselves in those positions.
i despair
the crux of it is that in my opinion Rooney is not Englands best player by a country mile
other players are just as vital as him and him not being there doesnt mean England will fail
i did agree with the team you proposed though, especially leading up to the tourament to try it out
lol were just going to have to agree to disagree. anyway back to the team what do you think the chances of cappello fielding a similar team are
i'd like to think he'd have the balls to overhaul the squad but when it comes to the crunch, this essentially will be the Golden Generations last hurrah
Welbeck and Sturridge are well in with a shout - more so than Carroll and Bent in my opinion with Rooney missing the groups
but the likes of Barry, Downing, Milner with Gerrard and Lampard will make the squad unless injuries stop them
its the defence that needs looking at. your defence lookes good but Cole will be left back and it'll be either Jones or Smalling, not both, which is a shame
your probably right about lampard and co but i wouldnt be so sure abt jones and smalling because i have a feeling terry will be proven guilty of making a racist slur which will probably leave him in international wilderness and will put pressure on capello to play both jones and smalling and to be honest i dont think the cole of today is much better than baines and seeing as baines most probably will be 1st choice at the world cup it makes sense for him to be left back
yeah dont get me wrong i like Baines a lot and i hope he gets a chance. Gibbs has impressed me too when he's played
I only believe Fabio will play the youngsters who have been consistent for the whole season - i just hope a lot of them start to play out of there skin to dislodge the old guard
you heard Capellos interview on SSN? he's already saying hes dreading facing Spain - not the beacon of positivity is he!?
lool yeh i heard it. i remember when capello became the manager i was full of hope simply because his club record is absolutely brilliant and now its just a case of counting down the days until hes gone
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posted on 9/11/11
you forget hargreaves and owen?
posted on 9/11/11
i agreed with the majority of this til you wrote 'rooney has to go to the world cup and has to be involved in some capacity as he is englands best player by a country mile'
yes he may still be selected but not our best player by a country mile - maybe the best striker at the present time but doesnt make him the best overall
posted on 9/11/11
also, i appreciate Walker has played ever so well at right back and i am naturally biased to give Martin Kelly a mention for that slot too altho ill give you Walker on current form
posted on 9/11/11
If Rooney isn't our best player then who is may I ask?
posted on 9/11/11
i dont know, im from Wales
All im saying is it grates me when people say 'so and so is the best player in that team by far'
Cole is probably your most consistent defender and there is no better English keeper than Hart at the moment. I rate Parker as the best-at-present midfielder
and Rooney best striker
its only an opinion
Team game for me, Rooney will get the headlines for the goals but if Joe Hart saves England in a shoot out he could claim to be a saviour
Lets just see!
posted on 9/11/11
lol you say rooney is not the best english player then you propose parker hart and cole. I think you would have to travel far and wide to find a person that agrees with you that these players are as good as rooney
posted on 9/11/11
nope
not once did i state that you tool
best in their positions i.e Cole better left back than Rooney - i think people would agree
Hart better Keeper than Rooney - again a valid point
and lastly Parker better anchor man than Rooney? ok Rooney may do a good job there!
and to even it out - rooney is a better striker than hart, parker and cole
that was my point
posted on 9/11/11
and just to really get you to understand, yes Messi is amazing and excels greatly in his forward position at Barca and for Argentina
but he and other professional with anounce of humility will say they arent the best overall player in there team as he'd be a $hite centre back, keeper, right back and holding midfileder
posted on 9/11/11
why in the name of rooneys left testi are you elling me that ashley cole is a better left back than rooney as a response to me saying rooney is englands best player. i think when i say that it goes without saying that what i mean is that in terms of importance to th team and ability he is the best. only a donkey would see the obvious fact that rooney is not as good a left back as ashley cole as even worth mentioning
posted on 9/11/11
Well in terms of talent people are correct to say Rooney is the best England player by far, even if he doesn't always use it all the time. He has alot more in his locker than the likes of Cole and Hart, eventhough they are talented themselves in those positions.
posted on 9/11/11
i despair
the crux of it is that in my opinion Rooney is not Englands best player by a country mile
other players are just as vital as him and him not being there doesnt mean England will fail
i did agree with the team you proposed though, especially leading up to the tourament to try it out
posted on 9/11/11
lol were just going to have to agree to disagree. anyway back to the team what do you think the chances of cappello fielding a similar team are
posted on 9/11/11
i'd like to think he'd have the balls to overhaul the squad but when it comes to the crunch, this essentially will be the Golden Generations last hurrah
Welbeck and Sturridge are well in with a shout - more so than Carroll and Bent in my opinion with Rooney missing the groups
but the likes of Barry, Downing, Milner with Gerrard and Lampard will make the squad unless injuries stop them
its the defence that needs looking at. your defence lookes good but Cole will be left back and it'll be either Jones or Smalling, not both, which is a shame
posted on 9/11/11
your probably right about lampard and co but i wouldnt be so sure abt jones and smalling because i have a feeling terry will be proven guilty of making a racist slur which will probably leave him in international wilderness and will put pressure on capello to play both jones and smalling and to be honest i dont think the cole of today is much better than baines and seeing as baines most probably will be 1st choice at the world cup it makes sense for him to be left back
posted on 9/11/11
yeah dont get me wrong i like Baines a lot and i hope he gets a chance. Gibbs has impressed me too when he's played
I only believe Fabio will play the youngsters who have been consistent for the whole season - i just hope a lot of them start to play out of there skin to dislodge the old guard
you heard Capellos interview on SSN? he's already saying hes dreading facing Spain - not the beacon of positivity is he!?
posted on 9/11/11
lool yeh i heard it. i remember when capello became the manager i was full of hope simply because his club record is absolutely brilliant and now its just a case of counting down the days until hes gone
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