Dispeller...
As i said, the Spurs fans are just looking to vent their anger, and CFC is understandably their preferred target.
I would hate it too if the boot was on the other foot, but the arguments being put forward lack any evidence, and the only things we know for certain so far are from the interview from Modric and the statement from Levy and comments from Harry.
Levy mentioned nothing in that statement about reporting Chelsea for any wrong doing, and that tells its own story.
Dispeller........................You asked for details of the relevant regulations, if you chose to ignore them or are too thick to understand them, that is not my fault is it?
Biggish...............................It was Chelsea who released details of their offer.............................also how do you know Spurs have not complained?
Squid.....................................totally agree with you
So Levy says Chelsea have revealed details of the rejected offer to the press and Spurs fans blindly believe him.
I understand your disappointment over the comments of your star player but Levy's word isn't neccesarily the truth.
You asked for details of the relevant regulations
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Yes I did but you have not provided them
The FA one's are about sanctions if founf guilty but they are not the regulations themselves.
The others I'm not sure what they are about but it appears to be about finances and not transfers.
squid (U1125
You can provide no single shred of evidence to back up your claims, and you did not even know that Modric had given his interview to the 'Telegraph'
Despite all this, you have somehow convinced yourself that you have made a credible debate on this thread.
The truth is you have not!
And now your last post appears to be someone trying to retreat with some semblance of credibility intact.
Sorry..........Epic fail!
It was Chelsea who released details of their offer.............................
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Do you have one shred of evidence for that statement?
geniusgreaves (U1302
You had, till your last post, at least entered debate at a level that could be recognized.
But you have no evidence and (i don't know hold you are) but you appear old enough to understand an argument without evidence is not credible.
Given the quality of Squid's posts, agreeing with him is not the smartest move in an attempt to maintain credibility.
Biggish you need to read the article geniusgreaves has written to see you got him all wrong.
According to him it is all a Daily Mail vendetta against Spuds.
Dispeller of Myths (U3913)
I just did, and I admit it does have a feel about it that makes me think about a very big river that amongst other countries, runs through Egypt.
I hope we leave it now and come transfer deadline day I think we'll get him much cheaper....but 'arry will get praised for his wheelin' and dealin'
Oh wait,my mistake....Levy does all the transfer deals not 'arry
Right
one question ....How do you know that the Telegraph is the origunal Exclusive article ?????
The Mail claim that they have the original exclusive
Who's right ???? IT DOESNT MATTER WHO'S RIGHT BECAUSE THESE SLIMEY JOURNO'S ALL COPY OFF OF EACH OTHER
I'm saying this because you insult my knowledge TBH I don't give a XXXX what you say as you've proved you havnt got a clue about anything anybody has said to you
You keep blindly bleating on about how Chelsea did nothing wrong and when it's explained to you you just ignore it and go off in another direction
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Here is the cut and paste from the Mail where they claim the exclusive and TBH THEY HIT THE MEDIA CIRCUS before the Telegraph
EXCLUSIVE: Let me leave! Modric bombshell as he admits he wants to join ChelseaBy Matt Lawton
Comments (10) Add to My Stories Share .Luka Modric dropped a bombshell on Tottenham when he told Sportsmail he wants to leave White Hart Lane and sign for Chelsea
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2004862/Luka-Modric-exclusive-I-want-join-Chelsea.html#ixzz1PiuXZY37
Squid
I thought you had left?....
Are you now back saying that Modric actually hasn't said anything or just confirming that he gave two interviews,one to the mail and one to the telegraph. If he gave two, then he must feel pretty strongly about this matter no?
I was hoping you were back with some evidence to prove that Chelsea have done something wrong in this matter. But it appears that is not the case.
Only came back to prove that the Telegraph (which you made so much of a fuss about) may or may not have the exclusive
You insulted me over this issue so come on prove you were right or apologize
Firstly, I said the Telegraph was an official interview, I did not say exclusive, and for your benefit, an official newspaper player interview.
Secondly, I was also correct in stating that you had not read it.
Thirdly,the points made in both interviews are the same..
So squid, yet again you have failed to make any valid points.
What the hell is an official interview ?????
As it happens I read the Mail first and then the Telegraph , both said exactly the same
Dispeller..........................................
The others I'm not sure what they are about but it appears to be about finances and not transfers.
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Hello??????????? Transfers are an integral part of a Club's finances and therefore fall under these rules. But of course if you refuse to accept this, there is nothing I can do.
With regard to disclosure, only the Club's were aware of the offer..............as under the regulations Chelsea would not be allowed to talk to the agent or the player without Spurs giving permission.
Spurs are not going to unsettle a key player by revealing details of the offer, therefore the only logical conclusion to be drawn is that it came from within Chelsea.
And you cannot (but probably will) deny that Chelsea have form in this area.
Biggish..........you seem to think that because there is no hard evidence then its not true......that makes you either very naive or just tunnel visioned!
As for my age, which incidentally is irrelevant, lets just say that I was involved in football for many years both as a player & official so have a little understanding of how things are done at League clubs.
I have also been involved in business transactions and standard operating procedures nearly always include a confidentiality clause.
The fact you glibly ignore the PL Rules information I sent you tells me enough about you.
You also state that Chelsea have done nothing wrong, what about ignoring the express comments in Daniel Levy's letter to them stating Modric is not for sale at any price? What do they do, up the bid & therefore create more unrest & instability in the players mind.
You may have more money (well your dubious owner does) than us, however your club lacks integrity, class & respectability.
I'm not getting into this official rubbish again
OK last time ......All footballers contracts have a clause about getting permission from the club to speak to the media ......are you saying that Spurs gave him the OK to say all that to the Mail/Telegraph whoever ?????????????
What the hell is an official interview ?????
When a player has spoken directly with a journo and given him permission to use direct quotes.
The irony is on the one hand you are prepared to believe unsubstantiated newspaper articles, but look to discredit the article that actually has the player being officially quoted.
How on earth can you be taken seriously with that approach to debate?
Biggish..........you seem to think that because there is no hard evidence then its not true......that makes you either very naive or just tunnel visioned!
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Sorry are we now advocating a legal system where the burden of proof lies with the accused?
I accuse you of stealing 20 grand from my bank account. Now give it back to me, and we will settle this debate later in court!
genius (Has a wrord ever been less apt?)
Then Levy will sue us and Modric will sue the press.
Simples.
Genius
This is what i said, how can i even take you seriously when you attempt to counter argument with incorrect information.
"I would be just as angry about the situation if the boot was on the other foot. And maybe evidence will come to light to show Chelsea did something wrong. As you said, it has happened before, but until then its not right to accuse the club of wrong doing.?
The fact that you understand nothing about 'burden of proof' makes a nonsense of anything you have to say on this matter, an does very little for the credibility of your mini biography.
OK last time ......All footballers contracts have a clause about getting permission from the club to speak to the media ......are you saying that Spurs gave him the OK to say all that to the Mail/Telegraph whoever ?????????????
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No!
Are you saying the Modric interviews are made up fantasy and therefore do not reflect the true and official thoughts and feelings of the player?
If you are, then how much compensation do you think both newspapers will be forced to pay in court once Modric denies giving the interviews?
When a player has spoken directly with a journo and given him permission to use direct quotes.
...........................
how many more times ........HE HAS NO RIGHT TO DO THAT .....he's in breech of contract by doing that
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The irony is on the one hand you are prepared to believe unsubstantiated newspaper articles, but look to discredit the article that actually has the player being officially quoted.
...............
Where have I discredited the article ?????
and are the FACTS that you have been punished at least twice before for the same offence unsubstantiated ?????
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posted on 19/6/11
Dispeller...
As i said, the Spurs fans are just looking to vent their anger, and CFC is understandably their preferred target.
I would hate it too if the boot was on the other foot, but the arguments being put forward lack any evidence, and the only things we know for certain so far are from the interview from Modric and the statement from Levy and comments from Harry.
Levy mentioned nothing in that statement about reporting Chelsea for any wrong doing, and that tells its own story.
posted on 19/6/11
Dispeller........................You asked for details of the relevant regulations, if you chose to ignore them or are too thick to understand them, that is not my fault is it?
Biggish...............................It was Chelsea who released details of their offer.............................also how do you know Spurs have not complained?
Squid.....................................totally agree with you
posted on 19/6/11
So Levy says Chelsea have revealed details of the rejected offer to the press and Spurs fans blindly believe him.
I understand your disappointment over the comments of your star player but Levy's word isn't neccesarily the truth.
posted on 19/6/11
You asked for details of the relevant regulations
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Yes I did but you have not provided them
The FA one's are about sanctions if founf guilty but they are not the regulations themselves.
The others I'm not sure what they are about but it appears to be about finances and not transfers.
posted on 19/6/11
squid (U1125
You can provide no single shred of evidence to back up your claims, and you did not even know that Modric had given his interview to the 'Telegraph'
Despite all this, you have somehow convinced yourself that you have made a credible debate on this thread.
The truth is you have not!
And now your last post appears to be someone trying to retreat with some semblance of credibility intact.
Sorry..........Epic fail!
posted on 19/6/11
It was Chelsea who released details of their offer.............................
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Do you have one shred of evidence for that statement?
posted on 19/6/11
geniusgreaves (U1302
You had, till your last post, at least entered debate at a level that could be recognized.
But you have no evidence and (i don't know hold you are) but you appear old enough to understand an argument without evidence is not credible.
Given the quality of Squid's posts, agreeing with him is not the smartest move in an attempt to maintain credibility.
posted on 19/6/11
Biggish you need to read the article geniusgreaves has written to see you got him all wrong.
According to him it is all a Daily Mail vendetta against Spuds.
posted on 19/6/11
Dispeller of Myths (U3913)
I just did, and I admit it does have a feel about it that makes me think about a very big river that amongst other countries, runs through Egypt.
posted on 19/6/11
I hope we leave it now and come transfer deadline day I think we'll get him much cheaper....but 'arry will get praised for his wheelin' and dealin'
posted on 19/6/11
Oh wait,my mistake....Levy does all the transfer deals not 'arry
posted on 19/6/11
Right
one question ....How do you know that the Telegraph is the origunal Exclusive article ?????
The Mail claim that they have the original exclusive
Who's right ???? IT DOESNT MATTER WHO'S RIGHT BECAUSE THESE SLIMEY JOURNO'S ALL COPY OFF OF EACH OTHER
I'm saying this because you insult my knowledge TBH I don't give a XXXX what you say as you've proved you havnt got a clue about anything anybody has said to you
You keep blindly bleating on about how Chelsea did nothing wrong and when it's explained to you you just ignore it and go off in another direction
..................
Here is the cut and paste from the Mail where they claim the exclusive and TBH THEY HIT THE MEDIA CIRCUS before the Telegraph
posted on 19/6/11
EXCLUSIVE: Let me leave! Modric bombshell as he admits he wants to join ChelseaBy Matt Lawton
Comments (10) Add to My Stories Share .Luka Modric dropped a bombshell on Tottenham when he told Sportsmail he wants to leave White Hart Lane and sign for Chelsea
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2004862/Luka-Modric-exclusive-I-want-join-Chelsea.html#ixzz1PiuXZY37
posted on 19/6/11
Squid
I thought you had left?....
Are you now back saying that Modric actually hasn't said anything or just confirming that he gave two interviews,one to the mail and one to the telegraph. If he gave two, then he must feel pretty strongly about this matter no?
I was hoping you were back with some evidence to prove that Chelsea have done something wrong in this matter. But it appears that is not the case.
posted on 19/6/11
Only came back to prove that the Telegraph (which you made so much of a fuss about) may or may not have the exclusive
You insulted me over this issue so come on prove you were right or apologize
posted on 19/6/11
Firstly, I said the Telegraph was an official interview, I did not say exclusive, and for your benefit, an official newspaper player interview.
Secondly, I was also correct in stating that you had not read it.
Thirdly,the points made in both interviews are the same..
So squid, yet again you have failed to make any valid points.
posted on 19/6/11
What the hell is an official interview ?????
As it happens I read the Mail first and then the Telegraph , both said exactly the same
posted on 19/6/11
Dispeller..........................................
The others I'm not sure what they are about but it appears to be about finances and not transfers.
_______________________________________________
Hello??????????? Transfers are an integral part of a Club's finances and therefore fall under these rules. But of course if you refuse to accept this, there is nothing I can do.
With regard to disclosure, only the Club's were aware of the offer..............as under the regulations Chelsea would not be allowed to talk to the agent or the player without Spurs giving permission.
Spurs are not going to unsettle a key player by revealing details of the offer, therefore the only logical conclusion to be drawn is that it came from within Chelsea.
And you cannot (but probably will) deny that Chelsea have form in this area.
Biggish..........you seem to think that because there is no hard evidence then its not true......that makes you either very naive or just tunnel visioned!
As for my age, which incidentally is irrelevant, lets just say that I was involved in football for many years both as a player & official so have a little understanding of how things are done at League clubs.
I have also been involved in business transactions and standard operating procedures nearly always include a confidentiality clause.
The fact you glibly ignore the PL Rules information I sent you tells me enough about you.
You also state that Chelsea have done nothing wrong, what about ignoring the express comments in Daniel Levy's letter to them stating Modric is not for sale at any price? What do they do, up the bid & therefore create more unrest & instability in the players mind.
You may have more money (well your dubious owner does) than us, however your club lacks integrity, class & respectability.
posted on 19/6/11
I'm not getting into this official rubbish again
OK last time ......All footballers contracts have a clause about getting permission from the club to speak to the media ......are you saying that Spurs gave him the OK to say all that to the Mail/Telegraph whoever ?????????????
posted on 19/6/11
What the hell is an official interview ?????
When a player has spoken directly with a journo and given him permission to use direct quotes.
The irony is on the one hand you are prepared to believe unsubstantiated newspaper articles, but look to discredit the article that actually has the player being officially quoted.
How on earth can you be taken seriously with that approach to debate?
posted on 19/6/11
Biggish..........you seem to think that because there is no hard evidence then its not true......that makes you either very naive or just tunnel visioned!
----------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry are we now advocating a legal system where the burden of proof lies with the accused?
I accuse you of stealing 20 grand from my bank account. Now give it back to me, and we will settle this debate later in court!
posted on 19/6/11
genius (Has a wrord ever been less apt?)
Then Levy will sue us and Modric will sue the press.
Simples.
posted on 19/6/11
Genius
This is what i said, how can i even take you seriously when you attempt to counter argument with incorrect information.
"I would be just as angry about the situation if the boot was on the other foot. And maybe evidence will come to light to show Chelsea did something wrong. As you said, it has happened before, but until then its not right to accuse the club of wrong doing.?
The fact that you understand nothing about 'burden of proof' makes a nonsense of anything you have to say on this matter, an does very little for the credibility of your mini biography.
posted on 19/6/11
OK last time ......All footballers contracts have a clause about getting permission from the club to speak to the media ......are you saying that Spurs gave him the OK to say all that to the Mail/Telegraph whoever ?????????????
----------------------------------------------------
No!
Are you saying the Modric interviews are made up fantasy and therefore do not reflect the true and official thoughts and feelings of the player?
If you are, then how much compensation do you think both newspapers will be forced to pay in court once Modric denies giving the interviews?
posted on 19/6/11
When a player has spoken directly with a journo and given him permission to use direct quotes.
...........................
how many more times ........HE HAS NO RIGHT TO DO THAT .....he's in breech of contract by doing that
...............
The irony is on the one hand you are prepared to believe unsubstantiated newspaper articles, but look to discredit the article that actually has the player being officially quoted.
...............
Where have I discredited the article ?????
and are the FACTS that you have been punished at least twice before for the same offence unsubstantiated ?????
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