comment by FSB (U11355)

posted 28 seconds ago

Fellaini, I was highlighting the hypocrisy of other fans by providing evidence of it.


And the same has been done for some of your fans. Thing is, your stuff is very recent, the other stuff is historical.

Fair point. Does that prove that there are no racists supporting EFC these days?

comment by FSB (U11355)
posted 6 minutes ago

Fellaini, I was highlighting the hypocrisy of other fans by providing evidence of it.

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Legs get this straight for you. You or another posts stuff about Barnes having bananas thrown at him in the 'past' when racial abuse and such was rife at every club. However Tobes posted a current link to the vile racist abuse LFC related fans are posting on a social network site right now, in 2011/2012......not 25 years ago!

.....and that proves that there are no racists currently supporting EFC? Where did they all go?

Racism is not a passing fashion. The racist idiots of yesteryear are in many cases still racist idiots. They have just learnt to keep their mouths shut.

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FSB, if there are, they are certainly not as brazen as your own brethren.

It would be churlish to say that there are no racist supporters of any club, but to have them all plaster that garbage in a public forum is beyond belief, especially as their star forward is trying to wiggle out of a racism charge....

JB, you posted this before and again I will rip it to bits. Only one of the three articles you linked to came to any verdict/charge/punishment. This was the one inside GP and was delt with by fans/stweards and club officals to ban the offender.

No need to get a run of t-shirts made for this post I see

HM, I can't say anything in defence of the comments posted by TB. If I trawled the message boards I'm sure I could find lots of dubious comments from Everton fans, JB didn't have much trouble finding some evidence.

I will say again. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Like I said FSB, there will be idiots at every club, but I have yet to come across any here and on the old 606 who would say anything like what was posted on that Twitter feed.

Fellaini - it isn't the same stuff I posted before - it's all new. I've gone for the most up to date just to show that ALL clubs have idiot element. If you read the stuff you'll see it's from your own club fansites - actual accounts from fans not stories from newspapers.

Here's another one form a fan website - Posted 29 Dec 2011 - 15:13

http://www.toffeetalk.com/index.php?/topic/23678-everton-fans-top-racist-league-of-shame/

"I think racism is still rife at Everton games and so its no real surprise to me.

Its not really prevalent at Goodison anymore or at least not in the Park End where I sit but I have heard racist chants at just about every away game this season. Its precisely why I would never use Barnes travel ever again because there coaches always seem to be full of scallies and low lives who seem to be at the centre of such chants "

As mentiond by FSB it's not hard to find - we really need to stop taking the moral high ground your club has crazy element too.

I have sat in the park end from it opening and never heard anything like that spoken/shouted at players at GP

Fellaini - it really doesn't matter whether you have personally heard it or not - someone has. I have never heard racist remarks at Anfield either - so that means there's no racists there then right - going by what you say????

Just like to add I hope the 'fans' on twitter get banned for life if they are registered and can be tracked down.

JB, I am just ripping into the 'racist proof' you have posted about EFC. Only one was documented, reviewed and charged. This was in the ground, so I admit it happens. But shows that fans and club officals deal swiftly to ban the offenders

Fellaini - I'm not talking about what makes it into the papers - quite the reverse - I'm talking about real ife experiences of real fans who were saying (from accounts only a week ago!) that they encounter a racist Everton element right now. That to me is more proof than what a journalist makes up ...erm ...writes.

These are the same three links you posted about a month ago!

As I said, the club and its fans have been shown to deal with racist comments in the ground, you even posted evidence to back this up. Thanks

FSB,

have a look at your original post.

If you dont know which is morally worse,

For one man to call another man racist names,were nobody else hears it...............OR

For one man to swear at the tv camera when millions hear it.

Your spouting racist sh0!te and you are not even aware of it.

Why is that racist? I'm asking about the relative magnitude of the 2 offences. I'm not saying that either is correct.

Is it racist to say that all black men are black?

You know full well how you asked the question.

Which one,in your opinion,is the worst.

I wasn't asking myself the question. Which do you think is worse?

The racist insult.

Swear words v's racist words.... this is an interesting one.

You can never offend people, people can only ever take offence at what is said.

Swearing is something that is frowned upon, not used in polite company and is great at emphasising comic happenings. Racist comments are not welcome in any walk of life/conversation.

is it racist to say all black men are black?

Is it racist to say that all white men are white?

Do you find it offensive to be called white?