It's nice to see Mancini trying to WUM by blaming Rooney for the send off too, is he going to apologise for that as well or not?
A 2 footed tackle is when both feet either make contact with either player or ball, Kompany's left leg was nowhere near Nani. Are you suggesting that any tackle made by a defender when he's not fully upright is a foul?
comment by dependabledennis (U2272)
They've already appealed pal.
comment by Boris "Inky" Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
How many times have we seen a United or Arsenal player fouled only for the camera to pan to either Fergie or Wenger (the elder statesmen of football management) as they practically manhandle the 4th offical. The foul's already been given but they're obviously trying to get the 4th offical to influence the referee to give the offending player a card. What's the difference?
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How is the 4th official going to change the decision. It isnt within their powers. Have you ever seen the ref change a decision at the say-so of the 4th official? No you havent. Now they may be having a moan so that the 4th official will pass on their gripes at half time/full time. But these experienced managers do not labour under the misapprehension that the 4th official has the power to change decisions. You are coming out with some bizarre stuff today.
Have you bothered to watch the video provided for you yet? You can clearly see that Rooney is holding up two fingers. If he was waving the card then his palm would have bee facing him instead of facing the ref.
comment by mancWoohoo (U10676)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by (U11635)
listen scholes has paid the price throughout his career with yellows reds and suspensions for his tackling as Kompany will for last sunday. Bottom line is kompanys left leg was unnecessarily launched studs showing at nani and could have resulted in a ben arfa type injury. ?
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I'm "listening", but you need to calm down a tad chief.
So now what you are saying is that it is ok to make such stupid tackles as long as you pay the price in reds and yellows?
For the record, I have already said that I thought the Kompany red was the correct decision.
Anything else?
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I am perfectly calm...
and dont attribute conclusions and opinions to me that are not correct
but it seems we are in agreement re kompanys tackle
Dennis, I'll work on it but here's one to be getting on with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olTBn5SVauA
A 2 footed tackle is when both feet either make contact with either player or ball,
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No it's not.
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 3 minutes ago
It wasn't a red card. Or rather it shouldn't have been a red card.
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I think under the laws of the game the ref had no choice. Im kind of mixed on whether it warranted a red card. It was a good tackle. However, had Nani not got out of the way then we could have been left with another NDJ/Ben Arfa situation.
comment by Boris "Inky" Gibson (U5901)
It's like he dropped his ice cream on the floor.
I didn't see him touch the 4th offical or even speak to him. In fact the 4th offical touches SAF's arm not trhe othe way around.
Try again!
comment by Boris "Inky" Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
A 2 footed tackle is when both feet either make contact with either player or ball, Kompany's left leg was nowhere near Nani. Are you suggesting that any tackle made by a defender when he's not fully upright is a foul?
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My God how many times can you be wrong on one thread? It has nothing to do with how many feet make contact. It has everything to do with the player being out of control of their momentum in a reckless manner.
comment by Boris "Inky" Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
Dennis, I'll work on it but here's one to be getting on with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olTBn5SVauA
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So SAF cant be upset with a decision? Wheere was the manhandling bit? I didnt even see contact!
Boris frantically searching round on youtube........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olTBn5SVauA
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Nice to see Fergie keeping his cool when decisions go against his team
"as they practically manhandle the 4th offical."
Perhaps a couple of you should brush up on your reading skills.
I am assuming that the 4th official is some kind of invisible man that Ferguson is beating up when he waves his arms around there...
Nani didn't have full control of the ball. Kompany went in, got the ball, a clean tackle, no contact with Nani, no reaction from Nani, no immediate reaction from the Referee.
Any tackle, whether it's two footed, sliding, controlled, or not, has the potential to result in injury. The point about asking if Nani had not got out of the way is irrelevent. The fact is, Kompany's tackle was clean, low, controlled, got the ball, didn't endanger Nani, and Nani didn't get hurt. No red card for me. In fact, I would say that even a yellow would have been harsh.
To practically man handle someone you at the very least need to touch them... I think someone does need to brush up on their reading skills...
Presumably these 3 tackles would now be illegal in the eyes of United fans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6ZP8zdhCOc
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 3 minutes ago
Nani didn't have full control of the ball. Kompany went in, got the ball, a clean tackle, no contact with Nani, no reaction from Nani, no immediate reaction from the Referee.
Any tackle, whether it's two footed, sliding, controlled, or not, has the potential to result in injury. The point about asking if Nani had not got out of the way is irrelevent. The fact is, Kompany's tackle was clean, low, controlled, got the ball, didn't endanger Nani, and Nani didn't get hurt. No red card for me. In fact, I would say that even a yellow would have been harsh.
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The fact that there was no contact is irrelevant under the laws of the game. If it was two footed then it is a red card. It is just the same as Scholes getting sent off for the 'punch' at Alonso a few years back. He didnt make contact but it was a red cad offence.
comment by Boris "Inky" Gibson (U5901)
Of course not, the tackler goes in one footed and also he's going for the ball which is perfectly allowed.
comment by dependabledennis (U2272) posted 5 minutes ago
I didn't see him touch the 4th offical or even speak to him. In fact the 4th offical touches SAF's arm not trhe othe way around.
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That's the missing the bus tantrum thing
What I find strange is that Boris accuses SAF of manhandling the 4th oficial, to which he challenged on, and then he goes on to try and prove his point by linking a video showing SAF doing exactly the opposite of what Boris is accusing him off. Not only did he not touch the ref, he barely even acknowledges that he is there. SAF just reacted in anoyance to a decision and nothing more
Boris would not make a very good lawyer
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
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Nani didn't get hurt as he jumped. If he'd have stood dead still where he was Kompany would have gone straight through him. It wasn't controlled as he had 2 feet off the floor. Hence the red card.
For everyone of those tackles the players kept one foot on the floor, some of them were standing tackles and not even slide tackles...
Whatever hallucinogenics your taking I think you should share....
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posted on 9/1/12
It's nice to see Mancini trying to WUM by blaming Rooney for the send off too, is he going to apologise for that as well or not?
posted on 9/1/12
A 2 footed tackle is when both feet either make contact with either player or ball, Kompany's left leg was nowhere near Nani. Are you suggesting that any tackle made by a defender when he's not fully upright is a foul?
posted on 9/1/12
comment by dependabledennis (U2272)
They've already appealed pal.
posted on 9/1/12
comment by Boris "Inky" Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
How many times have we seen a United or Arsenal player fouled only for the camera to pan to either Fergie or Wenger (the elder statesmen of football management) as they practically manhandle the 4th offical. The foul's already been given but they're obviously trying to get the 4th offical to influence the referee to give the offending player a card. What's the difference?
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How is the 4th official going to change the decision. It isnt within their powers. Have you ever seen the ref change a decision at the say-so of the 4th official? No you havent. Now they may be having a moan so that the 4th official will pass on their gripes at half time/full time. But these experienced managers do not labour under the misapprehension that the 4th official has the power to change decisions. You are coming out with some bizarre stuff today.
Have you bothered to watch the video provided for you yet? You can clearly see that Rooney is holding up two fingers. If he was waving the card then his palm would have bee facing him instead of facing the ref.
posted on 9/1/12
comment by mancWoohoo (U10676)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by (U11635)
listen scholes has paid the price throughout his career with yellows reds and suspensions for his tackling as Kompany will for last sunday. Bottom line is kompanys left leg was unnecessarily launched studs showing at nani and could have resulted in a ben arfa type injury. ?
=================================
I'm "listening", but you need to calm down a tad chief.
So now what you are saying is that it is ok to make such stupid tackles as long as you pay the price in reds and yellows?
For the record, I have already said that I thought the Kompany red was the correct decision.
Anything else?
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I am perfectly calm...
and dont attribute conclusions and opinions to me that are not correct
but it seems we are in agreement re kompanys tackle
posted on 9/1/12
Dennis, I'll work on it but here's one to be getting on with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olTBn5SVauA
posted on 9/1/12
A 2 footed tackle is when both feet either make contact with either player or ball,
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No it's not.
posted on 9/1/12
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 3 minutes ago
It wasn't a red card. Or rather it shouldn't have been a red card.
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I think under the laws of the game the ref had no choice. Im kind of mixed on whether it warranted a red card. It was a good tackle. However, had Nani not got out of the way then we could have been left with another NDJ/Ben Arfa situation.
posted on 9/1/12
comment by Boris "Inky" Gibson (U5901)
It's like he dropped his ice cream on the floor.
posted on 9/1/12
I didn't see him touch the 4th offical or even speak to him. In fact the 4th offical touches SAF's arm not trhe othe way around.
Try again!
posted on 9/1/12
posted on 9/1/12
comment by Boris "Inky" Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
A 2 footed tackle is when both feet either make contact with either player or ball, Kompany's left leg was nowhere near Nani. Are you suggesting that any tackle made by a defender when he's not fully upright is a foul?
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My God how many times can you be wrong on one thread? It has nothing to do with how many feet make contact. It has everything to do with the player being out of control of their momentum in a reckless manner.
posted on 9/1/12
comment by Boris "Inky" Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
Dennis, I'll work on it but here's one to be getting on with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olTBn5SVauA
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So SAF cant be upset with a decision? Wheere was the manhandling bit? I didnt even see contact!
posted on 9/1/12
Boris frantically searching round on youtube........
posted on 9/1/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olTBn5SVauA
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Nice to see Fergie keeping his cool when decisions go against his team
posted on 9/1/12
"as they practically manhandle the 4th offical."
Perhaps a couple of you should brush up on your reading skills.
posted on 9/1/12
I am assuming that the 4th official is some kind of invisible man that Ferguson is beating up when he waves his arms around there...
posted on 9/1/12
Nani didn't have full control of the ball. Kompany went in, got the ball, a clean tackle, no contact with Nani, no reaction from Nani, no immediate reaction from the Referee.
Any tackle, whether it's two footed, sliding, controlled, or not, has the potential to result in injury. The point about asking if Nani had not got out of the way is irrelevent. The fact is, Kompany's tackle was clean, low, controlled, got the ball, didn't endanger Nani, and Nani didn't get hurt. No red card for me. In fact, I would say that even a yellow would have been harsh.
posted on 9/1/12
To practically man handle someone you at the very least need to touch them... I think someone does need to brush up on their reading skills...
posted on 9/1/12
Presumably these 3 tackles would now be illegal in the eyes of United fans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6ZP8zdhCOc
posted on 9/1/12
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 3 minutes ago
Nani didn't have full control of the ball. Kompany went in, got the ball, a clean tackle, no contact with Nani, no reaction from Nani, no immediate reaction from the Referee.
Any tackle, whether it's two footed, sliding, controlled, or not, has the potential to result in injury. The point about asking if Nani had not got out of the way is irrelevent. The fact is, Kompany's tackle was clean, low, controlled, got the ball, didn't endanger Nani, and Nani didn't get hurt. No red card for me. In fact, I would say that even a yellow would have been harsh.
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The fact that there was no contact is irrelevant under the laws of the game. If it was two footed then it is a red card. It is just the same as Scholes getting sent off for the 'punch' at Alonso a few years back. He didnt make contact but it was a red cad offence.
posted on 9/1/12
comment by Boris "Inky" Gibson (U5901)
Of course not, the tackler goes in one footed and also he's going for the ball which is perfectly allowed.
posted on 9/1/12
comment by dependabledennis (U2272) posted 5 minutes ago
I didn't see him touch the 4th offical or even speak to him. In fact the 4th offical touches SAF's arm not trhe othe way around.
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That's the missing the bus tantrum thing
What I find strange is that Boris accuses SAF of manhandling the 4th oficial, to which he challenged on, and then he goes on to try and prove his point by linking a video showing SAF doing exactly the opposite of what Boris is accusing him off. Not only did he not touch the ref, he barely even acknowledges that he is there. SAF just reacted in anoyance to a decision and nothing more
Boris would not make a very good lawyer
posted on 9/1/12
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
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Nani didn't get hurt as he jumped. If he'd have stood dead still where he was Kompany would have gone straight through him. It wasn't controlled as he had 2 feet off the floor. Hence the red card.
posted on 9/1/12
For everyone of those tackles the players kept one foot on the floor, some of them were standing tackles and not even slide tackles...
Whatever hallucinogenics your taking I think you should share....
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