Its a combination of just about everything, mentione, plus i remember watching something on MUTV and Rio Ferdinand talked about having to clean boots etc of the first team when he was a youngster, youth teams no longer do that sort of stuff anymore, other thing is now you dont have to be a quality player to make a good wage, your average u20 playing for prem teams are probably on 10gs plus!!
They need to make the players techinically good before the win at all costs plarver comes into it.
Its cringeworthy all this hoof it, let them know your there from the age of 5. When i played for my primary school team 10 years ago me along with 2 others liked playing the techinical way and dropped out of the team because of it for players that "hoofed it"
I do think it's moved on at grass roots level. So many leagues and teams and 5-a-side league and these power leagues. I do wonder though how mad about football some of these kids are with so many other distractions now.
When I was at primary scholl and beyond I was football mad, any break we got would involve maximising time to play, missing lunch and after school playing whenever we could. Kicking balls against walls and garage doors. Nowadays you can go past endless park pitches with nobody playing on them even. When I was a kid there were hardly any you could get access to and the posts were always taken down, never mind goals that had nets.
I think many parents now see football as a way for their whole family to get rich, not just having the welfare and future of their child at stake. Crazy amounts of pressure heaped on kids to win at all costs. WHere I do think the Dutch,Germans,Belgians are way superior is in the fact that you have to join a club to play football in a team in a league. Be registered and these clubs look after their kids. They are well run and organised. Often have club houses and provide food and refreshments too . Not like some of the cobbled together sunday leagues you get in these isles.
They focus on big players. not the Silva's
Blue Kenyan - That used to be so true when I was at school. I was small and skilful but they preferred the big lad with no skill to kick a few !!
Is it still the case now? If so that is depressing..
England have numerous potential Silva's at grass roots level.
But because of our obsession with big brute's most of them will be stacking shelve's in tesco when (if they were brought up in Spain they would have) would be liting up a world cup
Andy Carroll cost 35 million squids.
It will be interesting to see how the new rules come in, with clubs able to sign youth from all over the country rather than from just within a certain distance...
when i was a lad at school the teams were not picked on ability but purely on yor "standing" within the school.
I used to be in the top academic groups in all lessons and casued no trouble to the teachers or other students.
I was not selected for the team.... neither was anyone else in my classes....
most of the players were the boys with thier knuckles dragging along the floor, smokers, bullies, fat kid in goal.... this was purely to show that the school thought they had a purpose.... this was the same accros the whole of the borough (merton).
to sum it up they had NO training or audition to be in the team... they just picked the "hardest" from the school and ignored everyone else.
There was one guy in my class who could twist around everyone in the year and rather than score himself would set anyone up that had the brains to follow his run.
This guy was NOT selected.
IMO if this is the same accross the country then it is just the a$$e$ who have ASBOs who get picked so they feel they have a perpose. (hug a hoodie comes to mind)
i hope it is not the same now as there have been some real footballers missed and left behind in the past.
One of the problems I think is the fact that a lot of us, when we were younger, used to go out and actually play football with a ball. You know, a real one that was round and full of air, and bounced, and you could kick it, head it, pass it, and dribble with it, and learn the skills.
Most kids play football on a computer / console these days. No matter how good you are at pushing buttons on a keyboard / controller, it doesn't give you naff all skill when you get a real ball to play with!
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posted on 19/1/12
Its a combination of just about everything, mentione, plus i remember watching something on MUTV and Rio Ferdinand talked about having to clean boots etc of the first team when he was a youngster, youth teams no longer do that sort of stuff anymore, other thing is now you dont have to be a quality player to make a good wage, your average u20 playing for prem teams are probably on 10gs plus!!
posted on 19/1/12
They need to make the players techinically good before the win at all costs plarver comes into it.
Its cringeworthy all this hoof it, let them know your there from the age of 5. When i played for my primary school team 10 years ago me along with 2 others liked playing the techinical way and dropped out of the team because of it for players that "hoofed it"
posted on 19/1/12
I do think it's moved on at grass roots level. So many leagues and teams and 5-a-side league and these power leagues. I do wonder though how mad about football some of these kids are with so many other distractions now.
When I was at primary scholl and beyond I was football mad, any break we got would involve maximising time to play, missing lunch and after school playing whenever we could. Kicking balls against walls and garage doors. Nowadays you can go past endless park pitches with nobody playing on them even. When I was a kid there were hardly any you could get access to and the posts were always taken down, never mind goals that had nets.
I think many parents now see football as a way for their whole family to get rich, not just having the welfare and future of their child at stake. Crazy amounts of pressure heaped on kids to win at all costs. WHere I do think the Dutch,Germans,Belgians are way superior is in the fact that you have to join a club to play football in a team in a league. Be registered and these clubs look after their kids. They are well run and organised. Often have club houses and provide food and refreshments too . Not like some of the cobbled together sunday leagues you get in these isles.
posted on 19/1/12
They focus on big players. not the Silva's
posted on 19/1/12
Blue Kenyan - That used to be so true when I was at school. I was small and skilful but they preferred the big lad with no skill to kick a few !!
Is it still the case now? If so that is depressing..
posted on 19/1/12
England have numerous potential Silva's at grass roots level.
But because of our obsession with big brute's most of them will be stacking shelve's in tesco when (if they were brought up in Spain they would have) would be liting up a world cup
posted on 19/1/12
Andy Carroll cost 35 million squids.
posted on 19/1/12
It will be interesting to see how the new rules come in, with clubs able to sign youth from all over the country rather than from just within a certain distance...
posted on 20/1/12
when i was a lad at school the teams were not picked on ability but purely on yor "standing" within the school.
I used to be in the top academic groups in all lessons and casued no trouble to the teachers or other students.
I was not selected for the team.... neither was anyone else in my classes....
most of the players were the boys with thier knuckles dragging along the floor, smokers, bullies, fat kid in goal.... this was purely to show that the school thought they had a purpose.... this was the same accros the whole of the borough (merton).
to sum it up they had NO training or audition to be in the team... they just picked the "hardest" from the school and ignored everyone else.
There was one guy in my class who could twist around everyone in the year and rather than score himself would set anyone up that had the brains to follow his run.
This guy was NOT selected.
IMO if this is the same accross the country then it is just the a$$e$ who have ASBOs who get picked so they feel they have a perpose. (hug a hoodie comes to mind)
i hope it is not the same now as there have been some real footballers missed and left behind in the past.
posted on 20/1/12
One of the problems I think is the fact that a lot of us, when we were younger, used to go out and actually play football with a ball. You know, a real one that was round and full of air, and bounced, and you could kick it, head it, pass it, and dribble with it, and learn the skills.
Most kids play football on a computer / console these days. No matter how good you are at pushing buttons on a keyboard / controller, it doesn't give you naff all skill when you get a real ball to play with!
posted on 20/1/12
Good debate.
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