Nick Powell expected to pen a deal today

Seeing as the BBC have just said we have signed him for an initial £2m possibly rising to £4m proves you're an idiot.

Seeing as the BBC have just said we have signed him for an initial £2m possibly rising to £4m proves you're an idiot.

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and your a prime example as to why your mum should have swallowed

comment by duncanedwards_legend (U11713)

you say fergie brought him into the first team squad, he played a total of about 90 minutes carling cup action for the first team squad.
Other people on here are saying that league 2 is a better standard than the reserves, so which is it, because if its the latter, powell has proven himself more than morrison who couldnt really fet a kick for the first team
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If Morrison could have been bothered to turn up to training then he might have had a chance of playing a bit more?

The lad was and still is the most talented young English footballer of his generation. Whether he ever realises that potential remains to be seen.

If Morrison could have been bothered to turn up to training then he might have had a chance of playing a bit more?

The lad was and still is the most talented young English footballer of his generation. Whether he ever realises that potential remains to be seen.

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maybe so Elvis, but if you had a player on one side, who had all the talent in the world, but was a complete @55, and on the other side you had a player who was talented and had a great attitude, who would you give the better contract to??

man this topic has turned into a sort of a slanging match but back to the point – personally regardless of the amounts quoted I think paying for a player in his position doesn’t seem a good idea especially if he’s not going to come straight into the first team. Yes if he was successful then fine the add ons etc are peanuts but obertan only cost 3m and many will slate him as a failure. If powell comes in for 3million say and only makes a handful of appearances it still seems a waste. I guess it’s the manager/coaches job to decide whether its worth the risk but who’s to say that by the time he breaks into the first team there isn’t another youngster either at united or elsewhere with greater potential etc

Aquantum - As I mentioned right at the beginning Powell is a lot more versatile than just his preferred position.

Plus you just said irrespective of the amount to be paid we don't need a young player in that position I.e. Morrisons old position, so does that logic mean SAF should have sold Morrison anyway OR not bought Kagawa?

If Morrison cared about training, respected his team mates, coaches etc and was even remotely professional away from the club then he'd still be there and Kagawa would still have been bought imo, so all that's happened is SAF has swapped the versatile english Powell with huge potential and a reported very good attitude for english Morrison who also had big potential but a terrible attitude that couldn't be ignored for the good of the squad.

You never know the up front fee may even turn out to be the same as we got for Morrison, and if he turns out fantastic then no one will be complaining about addons, especially if he develops into the Gerrard type some rightly or wrongly think he might.

I really don't think this is worth being too concerned about, and could turn out great. I'm sure the club knows what it's doing.

Btw not sure if people have seen this report as well as it talks about 2m up front and up to 4m with addons. Obviously could be just as wrong as the sun but it shows the range in prices being guessed by the press.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2157629/Manchester-United-wont-loan-Nick-Powell-Crewe.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

It starts...
'Manchester United will not send promising youngster Nick Powell back to Crewe on loan once the two clubs finalise the deal for the attacking midfielder to Old Trafford.

Sportsmail revealed a £4 million deal had been agreed between the two clubs, £2 million of which will be paid up front.

Powell, an Engand U18 international, has been compared to Steven Gerrard...'

maybe so Elvis, but if you had a player on one side, who had all the talent in the world, but was a complete @55, and on the other side you had a player who was talented and had a great attitude, who would you give the better contract to??
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I can't generalise on something like that. It would depend on the individual players. What I will say is that even if Morrison goes on to be a great player it doesn't necessarily mean SAF made the wrong decision. Getting booted put of OT might be the catalyst that makes Morrison change his ways. I doubt it, but I really hopes he does make a success of his career as it'd be good for England.

People don't seem to consider the bigger picture when it comes to Morrison. His talent was never in question and SAF might even be surprised if Morrison doesn't go on to be great but the simple fact is you can't operate a club and look after a squad of players in a team sport by allowing one individual, a teenage youth player at that, to decide when he bothers to train, disrespect his team mates and coaching staff and generally bring the club into disrepute.

What message does it send to all the other youth players if he then gets rewarded with a senior contract or gets rewarded with training as a first team player despite his lack of discipline or professionalism. It disrupts everything you are trying to install into these kids I.e. work hard, focus on your football, listen to the coaches, be professional, respect the team ethic and you'll be rewarded.

It's the same as people saying certain youth players should get senior wages and early long term contracts, because they look like they'll really make it, which then sends a bad signal to all the other youth players, messes with the wage structure of the club, gets senior players who are in the first team and contributing a lot, then asking if he's getting X with no experience and in the youth team, I want Y. New players coming in then say you pay joe blogs X in the youth team so I want Y etc etc. And how does effect a kids development if he already thinks he's made it on big money.

Bottom line is whatever career Morrison had, SAF had to get rid for the good of the club, and was right to do it.

Whatever career Morrison has I meant above at the end rather than had, but maybe a Freudian slip