New stadium - reading between the lines

I think the current owners have a strong sense of 'brand'. I say brand because it wouldn't make sense to say they have a strong sense of who and what LFC is - it's too early for them to have grasped that about LFC in particular, although as owners of a baseball team they do understand and are living the concept.

They redeveloped the Red Sox ground which resulted in every game being a sell out. The ground has since been placed on some historic site list (yes I know it is the USA after all!) So what the club in it's original site means to everyone connected to the club (which includes the fans) will not have slipped them by.

A new stadium whould mean naming rights and that would have to be something innocuous like EasyJet stadium for example. Pretty soulless!

We already have the highest ticket price in football and a rise wouldn't go down well. Our income stream is much greater than Everton's who rely on the tv money much more than we do and the rise in that season after next won't be enough to cover the cost of a new ground. I could be wrong - figures aren't my strong point - but what I've seen of projected new income it wouldn't be enough.

I wonder if the bayern fans are sitting there moaning about having to share the allianz arena with 1860.
Something tells me they are not....

lucas - both Munich played played at the same ground anyway before they even built the Allianz Arena.

* both Munich teams.

The point is, they share a stadium. Bayern are currently a bigger club than us but have no issue with sharing a fantastic stadium with their rivals.
In fact, they now own 100% of the stadium and 1860 still play there.

It was a poor example though because both Munich teams have played at the same ground since1925, went on to share the Olympic Stadium (already built) and then the Allianz.

It couldn't be more different, and as you said, the stadium wasn't even a year old and 1860 had to sell their share. Imagine we do a share and Everton have to sell their share to us after less than a year. We have a new stadium but it's called a silly name and isn't really ours as the corporate colours etc will still have to reflect both teams. It will mean Everton have piggy backed on us to get a new stadium which we could have owned outright without them. I don't want that to sound mean or selfish - but both teams would lose their identity and spiritual home and it could lead to mayhem. I don't want a new stadium at any cost and I doubt Everton fans do either. They stand to lose their special home ground as well!

JB,

You started to sound like the bitter "im against this at all cost fans" both sides have.

The way each club finances the shared cost will be different thats for sure. Everton may well take a finance term that is double that of Liverpools share in costs. Dont think that this deal would be financed without assurances that payments will be met due to size of the deal.

Getting a new stadium may also draw investors/owner to take control at GP due to ability to get a return on investment.

Just to outright say we cannot afford our share is pie in the sky!

I realise the confusion - what I meant was I don't want a new stadium if the cost is a loss of our identity - I didn't mean cost in terms of money paid for it - sorry if it came out like that.

You don't have to be bitter to not want to share. I don't want us to leave Anfield and we have an alternative if the council can work with club and residents and secure more ground space with residents not cheated etc. We have a new and improved Anfield.

Why wouldn I be bitter to want that?

I take it you want to leave Goodison then!

Why wouldn I be bitter to want that?

I take it you want to leave Goodison then!

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Not bitter about wanting to stay at anfield, I mean bitter about sharing.

I would love to stay at a renovated GP, however if you have been you wil know that the cost would be similar to a share of a new ground.

The additional sponsorship deals etc that would come with the ground are attractive.

I understand your views on identity, but do you think fans of other clubs feel this loss of identity when they moved to newly built grounds?

Or AC/Inter feel that way when they are winning?

You can't say people are bitter for not wanting to share. The fans who are bitter are just bitter anyway and it isn't only those not wanting a share who have this characteristic.

Go and ask the fans in newly built grounds how they feel. I bet there will be a mix of those who think the new stadium is great but soulless and those who don't care as long as they get in to see their team. I've read a few comments on various issues where fans have said they hated moving to the Emirates for example.

The shared stadium that we are talking about has never been done here before. It entails a very definite loss of identity. Still some say they would go anywhere to support their club and as we don't have any say in it, we just have to turn up pay our money and sing.

AC Milan have played in the San Siro stadium since 1926 and Inter moven in 20 years later - that's a long time to share as well. Would they accept it as a prospect today had it never been done before - my guess is no