Guys with with United sitting nicely in 3rd with just 7 to go ( although some tough games ahead) it appears most, even the most critical of LVG, now find themselves within the LVG in camp (at least for now)
I see nothing wrong with this change of view. I feel I and others had some very valid concerns towards LVG (was making odd calls that were resulting in dropped points and some turgid performances, wasting Herrera, Mata, Rafael and Rooney, failure to strengthen at RB.....) and if the LVG fans are honest, whilst they hoped / expected LVG to get it right eventually, they will have had wobbles at points during the season for exactly the same reasons.
I also believe the marked improvement in recent weeks aren't purely down to a master plan set out by LVG, but instead a combination of good coaching finally paying off, having a very talented pool of players, and injury and suspension forcing LVG's hand.
So my point is, can we now stop with the I told you so's (which I seem to recall was forbidden last season after Moyes went and considered scahdenfraude by the Moyes fans) accept we are finally performing the way we should (and could have been months ago but for some bad calls) and all try and get behind LVG, the team and stop with the (at times quite nasty) squabbling?
"I told you so... I think"
posted on 7/4/15
Thing is, you're allowed to say things like ' United under Fergie in the 80's were atrocious, he had to change things or feck off '
No one in their right mind said give him a few years well be winning titles again.
Same with LvG. Thankfully things are changing.
posted on 7/4/15
Thing is, you're allowed to say things like ' United under Fergie in the 80's were atrocious, he had to change things or feck off '
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Fergie implemented changes from day one. It just took a while for those changes to bear fruit. SAF didn't suddenly "change" something in 1993 to become successful overnight.
posted on 7/4/15
mud, we were talking about months ago when we were poor and many thought LVG should get the boot, not now, although we are still a long way off securing 4th with 7 very tricky games to go.
posted on 7/4/15
Yes, we were still in the top 4 then. So the whining as you can now see was pointless. You were whining for something that did not happen.
It was pointless, that is what people were saying. Wait and see before you whine
posted on 7/4/15
Oh yeah it was pointless because if forgot it was all part of LVGs plan for shaw, young, carrick, di Maria and RVP to be unavailable and to re instant here and mate with Rooney at Cf. Tw4t
posted on 7/4/15
Now, now, no need for name calling. I really do not understand why people feel the need to whine for events that will not happen.
posted on 7/4/15
Depends what you think won't happen. I want at least third and wanted a cup win.
posted on 7/4/15
It's an interesting point actually.... I dare say the club's minimum requirement was CL qualification.... But after such a big outlay and LvG carrying alot of managerial credentials.... I wonder if the club, as well as some fans, were hoping for quite a bit more than just the bare minimum.
posted on 7/4/15
Well I would expect Mud, after repeatedly referring LVGS record would have expected more than 4th in his first season.
posted on 7/4/15
I wonder if the club, as well as some fans, were hoping for quite a bit more than just the bare minimum.
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I was hoping for more but wasn't expecting it tbh. People seem to evaluate the club in a vacuum without considering what goes on at other clubs.
Yes we spent money but were we the only club that did so? How much did we spend the year before that compared with other clubs? And the year before that? And before that?
It suits a lot of agendas to keep mentioning "£150m spent" but how many players needed replacing? What about the £30m we recouped in cash from player sales? What about the £100m or so that Liverpool spent - after finishing light years ahead of us last season? What about the money that Chelsea, City and Arsenal spent - despite already being better than us?
All that matters is how much MORE money we spent than our rivals - the figure spent on its own is completely irrelevant. Let's say we spent on average 75m more than our rivals in the summer...We all know that was never going to be enough to close the gap and overtake our rivals in one season, right?
If anyone still doubts that we are moving in the right direction after last season's nightmare then I really don't know what will convince them otherwise.
And if anyone truly *expected* us to win a trophy and finish top 3 (i.e. considering anything less than this to be failure) then they have their head in the clouds imo. Either that or they haven't been paying attention over the last 18 months.