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What a joke of a club we’ve become.

As if the pink shirts of last season without a black shirt in sight weren’t indication enough that we’ve abandoned our traditions, now - far from introducing safe standing and relaxing the rules around flags to create an atmosphere - we’re letting our partner turn us into an experiential laughing stock...

https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-man-united-marriott-reveal-old-traffords-new-seat-of-dreams-20191024

“ Teaming up with Marriott Hotels, United have revealed the latest addition to Old Trafford- a four-seater couch aptly nicknamed the 'Seat of Dreams' that claims to offer fans the best seats in the house.

United claim that the Seat of Dreams aims to give fans at every game the chance to experience matchday from a unique and coveted vantage point in the stadium, while enjoying special perks including complimentary food and drinks, early entry to the stadium, and the opportunity to meet Manchester United Legends.

Old Trafford's 'Seat of Dreams'
Interestingly though, unlike many of the high-end VIP packages that have become increasingly popular amongst Premier League clubs in recent years, you can't buy this experience. Instead, the Seat will be awarded to fans at random through a complimentary upgrade to their matchday ticket.

Marriott claims that the venture is their way of giving back to the club's most dedicated fans.

The Seat of Dreams will host four fans at every home game."

What a pillock of a fan you’d have to be to be seen dead on that sofa.

posted on 27/10/19

Some new techs takes years to become mainstream.

One big example is the smartphone and the touch screen tech. Nokia is the blueprint of a company which didn't recognize this and it was their downfall.

The VR is very popular in the east and who knows it may take a few years before it takes off here in the west.

posted on 27/10/19

comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Some new techs takes years to become mainstream.

One big example is the smartphone and the touch screen tech. Nokia is the blueprint of a company which didn't recognize this and it was their downfall.

The VR is very popular in the east and who knows it may take a few years before it takes off here in the west.
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Would love to see the comparison between the smartphone and VR headset market - think you’ll find they’re totally different.

There’s simply no evidence that VR is set to become mainstream. Quite the opposite.

Another one is voice. Heralded as the next big thing by many but yet to see any real evidence.

comment by House (U17162)

posted on 27/10/19

Agree with TOOR

Over the past 100 years the greatest leap in technology is around communication with others globally.

Being able to communicate with others visually and live (VR) is naturally the next step after communicating via text and voice surely?

Like the world wide web, the internet, and personal computers, games consoles etc. itll take time to get into a lot of peoples households, but itll get there eventually just like the above

It has too many uses in multiple industries to fail

posted on 27/10/19

comment by Paddy's Pub - Home of the original Kitten Mittons (U17162)
posted 38 seconds ago
Agree with TOOR

Over the past 100 years the greatest leap in technology is around communication with others globally.

Being able to communicate with others visually and live (VR) is naturally the next step after communicating via text and voice surely?

Like the world wide web, the internet, and personal computers, games consoles etc. itll take time to get into a lot of peoples households, but itll get there eventually just like the above

It has too many uses in multiple industries to fail
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Yet nothing backs up this view whatsoever.

posted on 27/10/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Paddy's Pub - Home of the original Kitten Mittons (U17162)
posted 38 seconds ago
Agree with TOOR

Over the past 100 years the greatest leap in technology is around communication with others globally.

Being able to communicate with others visually and live (VR) is naturally the next step after communicating via text and voice surely?

Like the world wide web, the internet, and personal computers, games consoles etc. itll take time to get into a lot of peoples households, but itll get there eventually just like the above

It has too many uses in multiple industries to fail
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Yet nothing backs up this view whatsoever.
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What would you like to see? What would back it up?

Also, what backs up your view that VR won't go mainstream?

posted on 27/10/19

Klopptimus, if you need to ask that question then it’s probably best we don’t have this conversation.

posted on 27/10/19

Why?

Could you explain why its not best for us to have this conversation?

Some things seem hard to prove or disprove. Since you are demanding evidence, I assumed it would be a breeze for you to instead produce evidence supporting your argument.

You say "nothing backs up this view".

So what backs up your view? Genuine question as this is a topic I'm interested in.

posted on 28/10/19

comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 11 hours, 17 minutes ago
Why?

Could you explain why its not best for us to have this conversation?

Some things seem hard to prove or disprove. Since you are demanding evidence, I assumed it would be a breeze for you to instead produce evidence supporting your argument.

You say "nothing backs up this view".

So what backs up your view? Genuine question as this is a topic I'm interested in.
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Well, the first thing you want to look at is sales. They have actually been in decline in some parts of the world (including the US) - that just does not compare with the smartphone market.

The second thing you want to look at is usage.

I work in marketing and VR has been heralded as part of the future for nearly four years now.

But when you have a little look into VR's usage, you see that it's a niche product with niche appeal.

There's absolutely no evidence of VR being used for functions that will lead to mainstream part of life.

I mean, strip back the economics and ask yourself - what would a VR headset bring to your home?

posted on 28/10/19

Aaah

The question coming to my mind is what exactly does "mainstream" mean?

Reminds me of "world class" where people can argue about a player only to find that the term world class means something slightly different to each of them.

posted on 28/10/19

comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
Aaah

The question coming to my mind is what exactly does "mainstream" mean?

Reminds me of "world class" where people can argue about a player only to find that the term world class means something slightly different to each of them.
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Well, that's fair, but I think we can all agree if that if VR headsets only have a small number of uses e.g. gaming, experiential marketing etc. then it's not mainstream.

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