One Point From Twelve.........

Hopefully we reach a point when the owners don't have to reach into their pockets and we become a sustainable football club.

I'm sure he's on big wages as well. May as well put Calvin Andrew on that list (I'll drive him to where he needs to go) and N'Diaye (don't like him either but who does?) and Dorman. That's 4 players. Maybe we should send CPFC2010 an email, we are solving all the problems tonight!

I think he needs a few more sub appearances but hopefully soon. Also KG and Garvan will be coming back.

Hopefully we reach a point when the owners don't have to reach into their pockets and we become a sustainable football club.
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I'm not too sure that will ever happen for us or any of the many, many other clubs paying riduculous wages.
It's sad to hear that we 'apparently' nedd 20k wk in wk out to break even. Kidology perhaps? We'll see i guess.

As for the wheels coming off.................Obviously recent results have been dire compared to our start but as 'cp' says, i too wouldv'e ripped someones hand off to be where we are after a few games. Donny was obviously a huge setback as these are the games that we'll be looking to win but who thought we would have got anything away at Hull? Not me. Doog takes too long to make changes imo, but hopefully timing will come with experience (hopefully sooner rather than later ).
So a few cr-p results, a few good results. Not bad overall. We're still in the Carling Cup, FA Cup and in with a shout of the League title .

P.S. Seaweed 3-1 Palace
Palace 1-2 West Ham

It's not that bad TUX it's average 20k attendence over the 23 games not every week! Otherwise we would be in real trouble. The 20k also takes into account that on average every fan spends £1 at the game. So they introduced stuff like Palace Ale, etc so that more people would spend money at games. So rather than putting the price up for the few that buy stuff they are trying to encourage others to spend their money. Since I read their comments I have been going earlier to games and been in the Red n Blue bar doing my bit. I'm drinking beer to show my support for Palace! I need to up my game if I'm going to drink Palace into the Premiership!

'Mon the alky'....
Has a good ring to it...

Unless i've read this wrongly, an average of 20k+ over 2 games (Utd at home on both occasions), let alone 23 games of a normal Championship season, would be out of our reach. Can we really match this target?

Glad your'e drinking Palace to the Prem tho bud

I'm not too sure I understand your comment TUX but it's average of 20k over the season for our home attendances. So every game at Selhurst Park has to have a minimum attendance of 20k. At the moment it's more like 14-15k so we need to attract another 6k fans to go to the games regularly OR the club has to sell players to break even.

I think all this talk about attendences should start to lure back some of the old 606ers (or maybe just the Charlton ones?)

I read the 20k attendance from cpfc(dot)org and then look for "Questions to CPFC2010" (Sorry I can't link it but it gets rejected as spam) it's buried in here somewhere. But it's quite an interesting read if you just skip to the CPFC2010 answers and ignore all the "I waited too long for a beer" (that's why I'll never be able to drink us into the PL. Sorry lads the dream was short lived! we're going to have to do it the old fashioned way and try and win games)

Mon

What i meant was basically we won't get more (rarely) than 20k per game unless the big-guns come to town. How we're gona raise another 5k ish per home game is anyones guess. That's approx 33% more people, a big percentage!
Should we have a great season plus a big investment over the summer then it's 'borderline' possible. Throw into the mix that we're in a depression (despite what you hear) then i'd say it's personally nigh on impossible.
But here's hoping

I'm with you now TUX (now beer is off the mind) and I totally agree. Which is why it is concerning because it is "nigh on impossible" to break even without selling players!

Which sends me back to my list......

As i posted earlier, players take too much of their respective clubs income. Attendances have dropped over the last couple of seasons because 'Joe public' can no longer afford it. How many grounds do we see more than half empty on the TV? Too many. It's a no-brainer but nobody seems willing to address the situation. 'If you don't pay the going rate then you don't get the quality' is the usual argument. Quite true, but SO MUCH MONEY TO THE PLAYERS to the detrement of the fans?????? Football has gone 'up it's own ar-e' and has done for a long time. I doubt it'll ever change.
I love Palace and i love the buzz of live football, but i'm off to Chichester Sat for a weekend on a friends boat, some fishing and lunch/dinner/breakfast on the Isle of Wight. That'll cost me the same as going to see us playing West Ham (inc beer, food etc). I appreciate money spent at the game goes to the club but the vast majority goes to people who basically don't deserve an Aston Martin or 2 for kicking a ball.

Rant over