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With the shocking death toll in Care

Homes rising daily, and still staff and residents in a lot of them cannot get tested, it seems wholly inappropriate that Footballers should be getting multiple tests just to kick a football about, whether they pay for them or not. If clubs had any decency, the tests they were getting for their players, should be passed on to local care homes as a gesture of goodwill. Then if footballers still want risk playing without a test, that will be their call.

Care Homes surely have to take precedent over football teams as it stands, and it would be a dereliction of duty if any Government puts Sports above Key Workers when it comes to testing.

A National Scandal is unfolding before our eyes, and it is unbelievable that a lot of out key workers are still awaiting tests, two months into the pandemic, and with 35,000 plus dead now. Testing should have been ramped up to the 500,000 or more a day by now, and yet it is still sitting at around 70,000 people that get daily tested.

Words fail me. And frankly normal life in no way can return until they get Test, trace and tracking sorted out.

Complete and utter tragedy at the moment, and mostly being brushed under the carpet.

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
GT, you are like me, very positive. Sandy is like the grim reaper
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I am not happy with how this has been handled and I think that Boris and his whole government have made numerous wrong decisions that have costs lives. I also believe that there should be a huge inquest when we are through the other side, but.... at this stage, if you are looking forward, there is no point ignoring that things are improving. Why would you ignore that just so you can keep saying how bad things are? Sure we are still getting numbers we should never be getting, but literally everything is going in the right direction and when that happens, then restrictions should be gradually lifted. Just sitting there saying "this shouldn't be happening whilst x, y and z is still happening" gets you nowhere. You have to move forward and that is what the country, and the whole of the world (except Brazil who have a lunatic in charge) are starting to do.

posted 2 weeks ago

Just a point for consideration which has been the analysis of "additional" deaths on a like for like annual basis which is reported as being some 60,000 above the "norm".

With Covid-19 being apparent in some 40,000 cases (est) it shows that we have experienced a further 20,000 deaths through other means such as those not receiving treatments, surgery and the like.

At what point does saving lives actually start costing lives? It can't be that far away. And that's before we get onto the economical damage and the death rates yet to come.

The IFS have indicated that for every 2% increase in unemployment there are an estimated 1m additional chronic health conditions.

I cannot help but believe that in the not too distant future we will look back and wonder why we were so blinded by science that we took our eyes completely off the ball and crippled our entire nation as we head into a recession like no other we have seen before.

It was right to close things down to prepare the NHS and it was right to protect the vulnerable by asking those with chronic conditions and the elderly to "stay safe". We have gone way beyond that over the past 4-6 weeks.

Trying to hide from a virus that won't just wander off is surely the most ridiculous idea ever thought of.

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just a point for consideration which has been the analysis of "additional" deaths on a like for like annual basis which is reported as being some 60,000 above the "norm".

With Covid-19 being apparent in some 40,000 cases (est) it shows that we have experienced a further 20,000 deaths through other means such as those not receiving treatments, surgery and the like.

At what point does saving lives actually start costing lives? It can't be that far away. And that's before we get onto the economical damage and the death rates yet to come.

The IFS have indicated that for every 2% increase in unemployment there are an estimated 1m additional chronic health conditions.

I cannot help but believe that in the not too distant future we will look back and wonder why we were so blinded by science that we took our eyes completely off the ball and crippled our entire nation as we head into a recession like no other we have seen before.

It was right to close things down to prepare the NHS and it was right to protect the vulnerable by asking those with chronic conditions and the elderly to "stay safe". We have gone way beyond that over the past 4-6 weeks.

Trying to hide from a virus that won't just wander off is surely the most ridiculous idea ever thought of.
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That is a very real conversation that may be raised in the future, but what government would ever essentially say it is ok to lose lives to protect the economy? It would be political suicide.

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
GT, you are like me, very positive. Sandy is like the grim reaper
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I am not happy with how this has been handled and I think that Boris and his whole government have made numerous wrong decisions that have costs lives. I also believe that there should be a huge inquest when we are through the other side, but.... at this stage, if you are looking forward, there is no point ignoring that things are improving. Why would you ignore that just so you can keep saying how bad things are? Sure we are still getting numbers we should never be getting, but literally everything is going in the right direction and when that happens, then restrictions should be gradually lifted. Just sitting there saying "this shouldn't be happening whilst x, y and z is still happening" gets you nowhere. You have to move forward and that is what the country, and the whole of the world (except Brazil who have a lunatic in charge) are starting to do.
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What’s the guy in Brazil doing then ? Love that part of the world by the way. Costa Rica is stunning.

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just a point for consideration which has been the analysis of "additional" deaths on a like for like annual basis which is reported as being some 60,000 above the "norm".

With Covid-19 being apparent in some 40,000 cases (est) it shows that we have experienced a further 20,000 deaths through other means such as those not receiving treatments, surgery and the like.

At what point does saving lives actually start costing lives? It can't be that far away. And that's before we get onto the economical damage and the death rates yet to come.

The IFS have indicated that for every 2% increase in unemployment there are an estimated 1m additional chronic health conditions.

I cannot help but believe that in the not too distant future we will look back and wonder why we were so blinded by science that we took our eyes completely off the ball and crippled our entire nation as we head into a recession like no other we have seen before.

It was right to close things down to prepare the NHS and it was right to protect the vulnerable by asking those with chronic conditions and the elderly to "stay safe". We have gone way beyond that over the past 4-6 weeks.

Trying to hide from a virus that won't just wander off is surely the most ridiculous idea ever thought of.
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That is a very real conversation that may be raised in the future, but what government would ever essentially say it is ok to lose lives to protect the economy? It would be political suicide.
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Completely agree but the conversation surely needs to be had. And it should be based on the longer term health implications and the additional deaths not being considered.

To tie it purely to economics would spell the end of them. Ignoring it however could equally have the same result.

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
GT, you are like me, very positive. Sandy is like the grim reaper
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I am not happy with how this has been handled and I think that Boris and his whole government have made numerous wrong decisions that have costs lives. I also believe that there should be a huge inquest when we are through the other side, but.... at this stage, if you are looking forward, there is no point ignoring that things are improving. Why would you ignore that just so you can keep saying how bad things are? Sure we are still getting numbers we should never be getting, but literally everything is going in the right direction and when that happens, then restrictions should be gradually lifted. Just sitting there saying "this shouldn't be happening whilst x, y and z is still happening" gets you nowhere. You have to move forward and that is what the country, and the whole of the world (except Brazil who have a lunatic in charge) are starting to do.
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What’s the guy in Brazil doing then ? Love that part of the world by the way. Costa Rica is stunning.
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There health care system is on the brink of collapse. They have gone through 3 health care ministers in 6 weeks and all have walked due to the way the president is treating this. The guy has been on protests against city governers who are applying any kind of lock down as he says this is nothing more than a small flu. Basically he is completely focused on the economy which is failing horrifically in its own right.
When you consider where Brazil was 6 or 7 years ago, one of the fastest growing economies in the world and where it is now, it is just staggeringly sad.

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
GT, you are like me, very positive. Sandy is like the grim reaper
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I am not happy with how this has been handled and I think that Boris and his whole government have made numerous wrong decisions that have costs lives. I also believe that there should be a huge inquest when we are through the other side, but.... at this stage, if you are looking forward, there is no point ignoring that things are improving. Why would you ignore that just so you can keep saying how bad things are? Sure we are still getting numbers we should never be getting, but literally everything is going in the right direction and when that happens, then restrictions should be gradually lifted. Just sitting there saying "this shouldn't be happening whilst x, y and z is still happening" gets you nowhere. You have to move forward and that is what the country, and the whole of the world (except Brazil who have a lunatic in charge) are starting to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------



What’s the guy in Brazil doing then ? Love that part of the world by the way. Costa Rica is stunning.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

There health care system is on the brink of collapse. They have gone through 3 health care ministers in 6 weeks and all have walked due to the way the president is treating this. The guy has been on protests against city governers who are applying any kind of lock down as he says this is nothing more than a small flu. Basically he is completely focused on the economy which is failing horrifically in its own right.
When you consider where Brazil was 6 or 7 years ago, one of the fastest growing economies in the world and where it is now, it is just staggeringly sad.
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Wow that’s ridiculous. So he’s not put the country in lockdown at all ?

posted 2 weeks ago

Just had a look, you are right. Revellers in Rio still partying and going bars etc, madness. Don’t get me wrong, I can’t wait for all this s** to be over and to go out partying again with friends, but it is definitely necessary for all countries to go into some sort of lockdown

posted 2 weeks ago

One of our lads girlfriends is Argentinian and has not long returned home.

They are closing down one fortnight, opening another later and essentially going round in circles. Absolute mess and the belief among the population is to hide the state of the economy from the rest of the world.

Latest lockdown is until September with all borders closed.

posted 2 weeks ago

Yeh Argentina and Brazil are very different to Costa Rica who are well known for protecting their environment even in normal circumstances. That’s why I love Costa Rica compared to other countries in that region. Corruption etc is non existent.

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