Cardiff City Stadium
Cardiff
Wales
1900
2nd March 2021
Looking back to Friday, we drew a game where we played a team who were playing at their highest level..... they still could not beat us....and we really didn't get out of second gear. I was disappointed that I'd not proof read the thread I put out for that night but I could never write a thread alluding that our manager had a large manhood.
Tuesday brings new challenges, in our bi-annual international foray over the border. Cardiff are a tidy side to use the vernacular and will be our stiffest test for over a dozen games. Mick McCarthy has overseen a good revival in Cardiff's fortunes and seems to have set up a robust system in the usual Mick way.
Derby await the availability of Marshall who's mishap on Friday sullied what could have been a good night (I've not forgotten Knight's miss either) but apart from that we seem to be in good shape. Saying that, is Tom Lawrence ever going to play again?
Difficult game but hey, we've overcome worse.
Team news has turned up:
Roos
Wisdom
Shinnie
Edmundson
Jozwiak
Mengi
Clarke
Sibley
Gregory
Buchanan
Baningime
Subs:- Idem, Forsyth, Bird, Waghorn, Byrne, Kazim-Richards, McDonald, Knight, Watson.
Cardiff City 4 - 0 Derby County
posted on 2/3/21
When you get out thought tactically by Mick McCarthy it's time to consider a career change
posted on 2/3/21
A sign tonight that although Rooney has shown previously that he is more than willing to be pragmatic he has ambitions beyond that. Better quality players will be needed though.
Mengi may well be like Tomori. He had a season at right back at Hull and when he started with us he was quite dodgy, getting caught under the ball quite a lot. He learned. It’s harder for a young defender than an attacker because the stakes are higher. In a mid-table team he could learn his trade and if he is good enough he will progress. At either end of the table mistakes are more important.
posted on 2/3/21
I don’t think Rooney was out-thought by McCarthy. Mick did what Mick does. He doesn’t think. Rooney thought too much tonight.
posted on 2/3/21
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted less than a minute ago
I don’t think Rooney was out-thought by McCarthy. Mick did what Mick does. He doesn’t think. Rooney thought too much tonight.
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Sorry, you're right I meant to put quote marks around it as I can't attribute the comments to myself but something I saw on Twitter
posted on 2/3/21
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 6 minutes ago
A sign tonight that although Rooney has shown previously that he is more than willing to be pragmatic he has ambitions beyond that. Better quality players will be needed though.
Mengi may well be like Tomori. He had a season at right back at Hull and when he started with us he was quite dodgy, getting caught under the ball quite a lot. He learned. It’s harder for a young defender than an attacker because the stakes are higher. In a mid-table team he could learn his trade and if he is good enough he will progress. At either end of the table mistakes are more important.
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He looks a good season behind Tomori in his development.
posted on 2/3/21
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don’t think Rooney was out-thought by McCarthy. Mick did what Mick does. He doesn’t think. Rooney thought too much tonight.
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Totally, Vidal
posted on 2/3/21
I didn’t really see Tomori for Hull but the Derby Tomori looked to have more about him at this stage than the Derby Mengi. He is highly rated though. The difficulty is how to make use of these players who are still developing. Wisdom has been a stodgy but reliable performer at centre half and conceded few soft goals. If we were solidly mid-table and there was a prospect of getting Mengi for next season then maybe you bung him in and accept a few errors as part of the learning process. But we aren’t in a secure enough position to accept many errors.
posted on 2/3/21
Not sure about their respective ages, but Tomori showed flashes of his class in his very first game for us. Sure, there were mistakes, but they were ironed out pretty soon.
posted on 2/3/21
I thought Beningime looked capable of competing with Knight and Shinnie for a midfield spot. I reckon Edmundson could challenge Wisdom for right centre half but Mengi is not at the same level and Byrne vs Mengi is absolutely no contest. If Byrne was injured I would prefer moving Wisdom to right back and playing Edmundson. When Mengi played right back he didn’t look as good as Kornell McDonald. Still very early days though and a very tough game to play in tonight.
posted on 3/3/21
Morning After View :
Well I'm going to give the Management Team the benefit of the doubt here....and assume / hope that they decided to 'pick their battles' with the thought it would be ultimately better to get a result against Coventry (Saturday) than against Cardiff.
I think it was clear that some of the players needed a break. If that's the reason for making wholesale changes then I think I'd have put Fozzie in - replacing Buchanan who imo has looked a bit jaded of late.
The changes also allowed the 'fringe' players a chance to stake a claim. The outcome was unfortunately a bit of a disaster as nobody stepped up did they....and those that remained seemed really unsure as to what the game plan was.
For me it wasn't so much that Cardiff outplayed us - it was the fact we just rolled over. Marking seemed largely to not be there and the midfield / forward players as a whole were totally isolated - and we didn't start to play until we made the subsititutions. By then it was too late and it still didn't stop us conceding a lamentable 4th goal.
So an awful night for the fans -and an equally awful 5 hour trip home for the players. Will the Management have gleaned much from that. I doubt it...but it just shows yet again when we're not at it 100% we're a poor team.
The players for me who came out with any credit were Bird & Waggy when they came on - which allowed Beningame to show that he could be useful when better players are around him....