Let’s have a vote instead of a conversation as seems like these articles always descend into arguments so let’s have simple vote to get the general consensus and opinion of the people on JA.
Don’t want it to look like I’m trying to get 5 stars so let’s use the following
4 <stars> If you don’t agree with players still taking the knee
2 <stars> if you do agree with players still taking the knee
I think the problem is this whole taking a knee thing has become a complete and utter farce and circus now, and Football is getting dragged into too much political BS that it doesn’t need. Originally I was all for it, but after a few weeks it kind of got a bit silly and went from being serious and highlighting a problem to becoming like a joke charade and facade and it’s been a bit killed to death now and I don’t really get the point in it and I don’t believe the players or clubs still want to do it but they feel they will look bad to a minority of snowflakes / fans if they come out and say they’re going to stop, they then think these minority of snowflakes will cause uproar by lambasting them for not taking the knee.
So yeh tricky one but think the reality is it’s been way too long know it’s been kneeled to death and football doesn’t need constant politics, this is football, gestures like we do with minute of silences are excellent, you make your point raise awareness and then you move on, you don’t carry on for like a year or however long it’s been with the same gesture because it just becomes embarrassing for all quite frankly but I don’t think anyone has the balls to just be honest and say they don’t want to do it anymore because they don’t want the snowflakes of the modern world to be in uproar
But let’s see what the general consensus is on JA
Vote away chaps and have a great weekend and come on the ENGLAND OIII OIII !!!
Taking the knee Yes/No - do you agree Vote
posted on 11/6/21
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 11 minutes ago
As I awoke one morning,
when all new things are born,a robin perched upon my sill,to greet the coming dawn,
I arose and listened for a while,
and then slipping from my bed,
I slowly closed the window,
and crushed it's f'kin head .
Sorry about that lads,I love robins,but can't stand f'kin wokes !
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Wokeness is a plague.
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In what way?
Can you explain what ‘wokeness’ is in your own words, and why it is akin to a plague, please?
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In essence, a plague cares only about itself.
Virtue signalling doesn't count. in the real world
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So you’re arguing that ‘woke’ people only care about themselves?
posted on 11/6/21
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 11 minutes ago
As I awoke one morning,
when all new things are born,a robin perched upon my sill,to greet the coming dawn,
I arose and listened for a while,
and then slipping from my bed,
I slowly closed the window,
and crushed it's f'kin head .
Sorry about that lads,I love robins,but can't stand f'kin wokes !
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Wokeness is a plague.
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In what way?
Can you explain what ‘wokeness’ is in your own words, and why it is akin to a plague, please?
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In essence, a plague cares only about itself.
Virtue signalling doesn't count. in the real world
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So you’re arguing that ‘woke’ people only care about themselves?
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Ultimately yes.
And no, i'm not arguing bud.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury. ITS COMING HOME ITS COMING HOME ITS COMING FOOTBALLS COMING HOME (U12980)
posted 13 hours, 29 minutes ago
Agree I feel like sadly it’s got to the point where it’s actually doing more harm for reducing racism than good, it’s just turning into constant arguments and debates about taking the knee every game. We are not talking about reducing racism anymore and how we can tackle it it’s all the talk about the knee and if it’s right or wrong every single game every single week
And as I said originally I think it was good but now it’s just turning racism or making it look like a joke which it shouldn’t be and is totally wrong
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Racism will not end before we stop talking about it all the time.
posted on 14/6/21
OP
Evening mate.
Scotland did not take the knee today, but will take the knee against England.
So, does that mean racism went away today, but is back Friday?
Importing American identity politics and gestures from a Marxist group calling itself BLM is not how we counter racism, imo.
Support kick it out, Respect, and oppose racism.
No need for taking a knee or copying political movements in the States in football.
posted on 14/6/21
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 3 days, 14 hours ago
I don't agree with it. I want to see players doing something a bit more meaningful to combat racism without the fanfare.
Hopefully we can enjoy the summer and enjoy the football without the politics.
We need to get behind the team and stop the booing.
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The booing is wrong, imo, but not aimed at players, rather the act of kneeling and politics behind the group BLM.
posted on 14/6/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 days, 14 hours ago
It’s run its course, time to stop.
I would however support a gesture that’s uniquely British/English
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Seconded.
Morris dancing.
Millwall linked arms and issued equality statement, so fans cheered that.
posted on 14/6/21
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 3 days, 13 hours ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? High King Sausage Monster (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 7 minutes ago
The players can hold hands, do a little dance whatever they like to fight racism but taking the knee is linked to a devisive political movement no matter what anyone says and should stop.
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Links to the political movement "BLM" has been used by those who have sought to undermine the anti-racism message. Taking the knee goes back to the civil rights movement in 1960's America.
Not really fussed if players take the knee or not but booing your own football team before kick off is somewhat bizarre. I'm sure it will really spur them on
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How common knowledge is that? In recent history its indisputably linked to BLM.
And people have to come to their own decision as to whether BLM is a politically motivated organisation or not.
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This, with respect to wwspd.
posted on 14/6/21
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? High King Sausage Monster (U3126)
posted 3 days, 13 hours ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 7 minutes ago
The players can hold hands, do a little dance whatever they like to fight racism but taking the knee is linked to a devisive political movement no matter what anyone says and should stop.
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Links to the political movement "BLM" has been used by those who have sought to undermine the anti-racism message. Taking the knee goes back to the civil rights movement in 1960's America.
Not really fussed if players take the knee or not but booing your own football team before kick off is somewhat bizarre. I'm sure it will really spur them on
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A few racists perhaps, but vast majority of football fans would not agree with the politics of BLM group, so importing American politics to the UK is shoehorning at best, divisive at worst.
Taking the knee is seen as part of an America race politics issue, between police and the black community and was imported into sport in the UK, where black people are not shot and murdered by police and where there is no segregation, as seen in America civil rights era.
That does not mean racism is not in the UK or aimed at footballers, but copying what America and an extremist political group do, at uk football matches, is absurd, if analysed.
And when black players say taking the knee has run its course or is demeaning and divisive, perhaps we should listen to those voices?
posted on 14/6/21
BLM movement supporters align themselves with flag burners, those who want to rip down Churchill statue and label white people as racist or privileged, those who berate and hate anything British or English, and then folk wonder why British and English working class football fans do not back gestures that emerged from American BLM activism???
That does not mean fans are racist.
It just means they are not supporters of group BLM and taking the knee gesture......why import American politics to local football?
posted on 15/6/21
Finally, lol...Republic took the knee against Hungary, while Hungary players simply stood and pointed at the Respect badges on their jersey.....nuff said.
Link arms, hold hands, issue anti-racist statement etc, but no need to kneel or copy American and BLM politics.
Stop being racist would be good too.