Ole

comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 25 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.

I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
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Poor old David Moyes

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 25 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.

I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
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Poor old David Moyes
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Strategically left out of the discussion

Good luck to him at Besiktas

comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 56 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.

I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
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I guess what is classed as failure. Trophies were won, but we never looked like winning the title. How much is that to blame on the manager, how much on what was going on in the background? We can't say we weren't active in the transfer market over the past 10 years, but once again do you blame the manager or those behind the scenes for what was spent and on whom.
Some people will look at it as a whole load of money spent and no titles in the bag - harsh but the facts.

comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 56 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.

I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
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I guess what is classed as failure. Trophies were won, but we never looked like winning the title. How much is that to blame on the manager, how much on what was going on in the background? We can't say we weren't active in the transfer market over the past 10 years, but once again do you blame the manager or those behind the scenes for what was spent and on whom.
Some people will look at it as a whole load of money spent and no titles in the bag - harsh but the facts.
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Just winning a Cup looks good of their CVs though.

Apparently.

comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 56 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.

I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
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I guess what is classed as failure. Trophies were won, but we never looked like winning the title. How much is that to blame on the manager, how much on what was going on in the background? We can't say we weren't active in the transfer market over the past 10 years, but once again do you blame the manager or those behind the scenes for what was spent and on whom.
Some people will look at it as a whole load of money spent and no titles in the bag - harsh but the facts.
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It was undoubtedly a whole lot of money spent and no titles in the bag.

But large shares of the problem - collectively the bulk of the problem - were always that we had no strategic or tactical continuity, a perpetually disjointed and unbalanced squad, and a penchant for massively overspending on entirely the wrong players.

Beyond *an influence* over transfer targets (because we know well that none of those listed above ever had complete control over transfer targets, and most, if not all, saw players bought that they simply didn’t want), none of those issues had anything to do with the respective managers.

Can’t wait for Besiktas to play Fenerbahce and cost them the title.

comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Can’t wait for Besiktas to play Fenerbahce and cost them the title.
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comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 56 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.

I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
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I guess what is classed as failure. Trophies were won, but we never looked like winning the title. How much is that to blame on the manager, how much on what was going on in the background? We can't say we weren't active in the transfer market over the past 10 years, but once again do you blame the manager or those behind the scenes for what was spent and on whom.
Some people will look at it as a whole load of money spent and no titles in the bag - harsh but the facts.
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It was undoubtedly a whole lot of money spent and no titles in the bag.

But large shares of the problem - collectively the bulk of the problem - were always that we had no strategic or tactical continuity, a perpetually disjointed and unbalanced squad, and a penchant for massively overspending on entirely the wrong players.

Beyond *an influence* over transfer targets (because we know well that none of those listed above ever had complete control over transfer targets, and most, if not all, saw players bought that they simply didn’t want), none of those issues had anything to do with the respective managers.
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Whilst you can't get everyone you want, I assume the managers had a fair idea of who was coming in and must have had some input. I can't believe that all of them weren't wanted - given how much we spent, which wasn't the managers' responsibility, I don't think there were many that we didn't get, given we overspent so much.

But it's all in the past, so probably just driving ourselves crazy thinking about it.

Personally, I enjoyed Ole's spell the most just because that was us at our most entertaining. I never really wanted Jose, just don't warm to his tactics etc and we got him too late. LVG was too late for us also. And even for ETH's trophies, so many bad things happened under him, it's difficult to remember his time fondly, bar the win against City in the Cup.

A Besiktas bid for Rashford must be imminent.