Let's hope he does really well there and fancies a few of United's unwanted players...
Our best manager since Fergie. Had the club not forced the Ronaldo signing on him in 2021, we'd have won the title by now.
The only manager with clear progress on the pitch, season on season.
19/20 3rd place + semi final
20/21 2nd place + finalists
21/22 not backed properly
comment by Slack Alice (U9489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Our best manager since Fergie. Had the club not forced the Ronaldo signing on him in 2021, we'd have won the title by now.
The only manager with clear progress on the pitch, season on season.
19/20 3rd place + semi final
20/21 2nd place + finalists
21/22 not backed properly
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Jose says hi.
6th place and two trophies
2nd place and FA Cup final
Not backed properly
comment by Slack Alice (U9489)
posted 12 minutes ago
Our best manager since Fergie. Had the club not forced the Ronaldo signing on him in 2021, we'd have won the title by now.
The only manager with clear progress on the pitch, season on season.
19/20 3rd place + semi final
20/21 2nd place + finalists
21/22 not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You left out the finishing position for 21/22 mate. Can you please update me? Thanks.
Ole just didn't have it and Jose was past his best - pretty irrelevant who was better between the 2 of them
Good luck to him but aren’t Galatasaray and Fenerbahce far and away the best teams in Turkey at the moment? Gonna be tough for him to win much there.
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ole just didn't have it and Jose was past his best - pretty irrelevant who was better between the 2 of them
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Both got 2nd in the league against a cheating City
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ole just didn't have it and Jose was past his best - pretty irrelevant who was better between the 2 of them
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Both got 2nd in the league against a cheating City
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honestly, for me it's what happens on the pitch. City should be punished for whatever they have done - whatever that punishment is, some will find some too lenient, others too harsh etc, it's almost pointless to debate.
During that time we wasted millions on players - City beat us because they were better than us, that's how I view it, i don't expect everyone to agree.
We didn't manage many big wins until we had Ole. Either way, we had few good years but as with all the managers we had, they were not helped from those above them.
I hope he enjoys the success he deserves. And the sore Jose fan boy can cry harder.
comment by Robb #456 (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by Slack Alice (U9489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Our best manager since Fergie. Had the club not forced the Ronaldo signing on him in 2021, we'd have won the title by now.
The only manager with clear progress on the pitch, season on season.
19/20 3rd place + semi final
20/21 2nd place + finalists
21/22 not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose says hi.
6th place and two trophies
2nd place and FA Cup final
Not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose was backed massively. Most of his signings were rubbish. You love a false narrative.
Ole came within a single penalty in an eleven kick penalty shootout of winning the Europa league. He played our most attractive football post-SAF. He signed Bruno and Amad.
comment by Robb #456 (U22716)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Slack Alice (U9489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Our best manager since Fergie. Had the club not forced the Ronaldo signing on him in 2021, we'd have won the title by now.
The only manager with clear progress on the pitch, season on season.
19/20 3rd place + semi final
20/21 2nd place + finalists
21/22 not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose says hi.
6th place and two trophies
2nd place and FA Cup final
Not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
had a nervous meltdown and had to go.
comment by Robb #456 (U22716)
posted 2 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Slack Alice (U9489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Our best manager since Fergie. Had the club not forced the Ronaldo signing on him in 2021, we'd have won the title by now.
The only manager with clear progress on the pitch, season on season.
19/20 3rd place + semi final
20/21 2nd place + finalists
21/22 not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose says hi.
6th place and two trophies
2nd place and FA Cup final
Not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pogba, Lukaku, Fred, Zlatan, Matic, Mkhi, Bailey, Sanchez, Lindelof, Dalot.
Jose was backed, €445m says he was.
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 25 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
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Poor old David Moyes
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 25 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
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Poor old David Moyes
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Strategically left out of the discussion
Good luck to him at Besiktas
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 56 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess what is classed as failure. Trophies were won, but we never looked like winning the title. How much is that to blame on the manager, how much on what was going on in the background? We can't say we weren't active in the transfer market over the past 10 years, but once again do you blame the manager or those behind the scenes for what was spent and on whom.
Some people will look at it as a whole load of money spent and no titles in the bag - harsh but the facts.
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 56 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess what is classed as failure. Trophies were won, but we never looked like winning the title. How much is that to blame on the manager, how much on what was going on in the background? We can't say we weren't active in the transfer market over the past 10 years, but once again do you blame the manager or those behind the scenes for what was spent and on whom.
Some people will look at it as a whole load of money spent and no titles in the bag - harsh but the facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just winning a Cup looks good of their CVs though.
Apparently.
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 56 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess what is classed as failure. Trophies were won, but we never looked like winning the title. How much is that to blame on the manager, how much on what was going on in the background? We can't say we weren't active in the transfer market over the past 10 years, but once again do you blame the manager or those behind the scenes for what was spent and on whom.
Some people will look at it as a whole load of money spent and no titles in the bag - harsh but the facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was undoubtedly a whole lot of money spent and no titles in the bag.
But large shares of the problem - collectively the bulk of the problem - were always that we had no strategic or tactical continuity, a perpetually disjointed and unbalanced squad, and a penchant for massively overspending on entirely the wrong players.
Beyond *an influence* over transfer targets (because we know well that none of those listed above ever had complete control over transfer targets, and most, if not all, saw players bought that they simply didn’t want), none of those issues had anything to do with the respective managers.
Can’t wait for Besiktas to play Fenerbahce and cost them the title.
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Can’t wait for Besiktas to play Fenerbahce and cost them the title.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 56 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess what is classed as failure. Trophies were won, but we never looked like winning the title. How much is that to blame on the manager, how much on what was going on in the background? We can't say we weren't active in the transfer market over the past 10 years, but once again do you blame the manager or those behind the scenes for what was spent and on whom.
Some people will look at it as a whole load of money spent and no titles in the bag - harsh but the facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was undoubtedly a whole lot of money spent and no titles in the bag.
But large shares of the problem - collectively the bulk of the problem - were always that we had no strategic or tactical continuity, a perpetually disjointed and unbalanced squad, and a penchant for massively overspending on entirely the wrong players.
Beyond *an influence* over transfer targets (because we know well that none of those listed above ever had complete control over transfer targets, and most, if not all, saw players bought that they simply didn’t want), none of those issues had anything to do with the respective managers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whilst you can't get everyone you want, I assume the managers had a fair idea of who was coming in and must have had some input. I can't believe that all of them weren't wanted - given how much we spent, which wasn't the managers' responsibility, I don't think there were many that we didn't get, given we overspent so much.
But it's all in the past, so probably just driving ourselves crazy thinking about it.
Personally, I enjoyed Ole's spell the most just because that was us at our most entertaining. I never really wanted Jose, just don't warm to his tactics etc and we got him too late. LVG was too late for us also. And even for ETH's trophies, so many bad things happened under him, it's difficult to remember his time fondly, bar the win against City in the Cup.
A Besiktas bid for Rashford must be imminent.
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posted on 17/1/25
Let's hope he does really well there and fancies a few of United's unwanted players...
posted on 17/1/25
Our best manager since Fergie. Had the club not forced the Ronaldo signing on him in 2021, we'd have won the title by now.
The only manager with clear progress on the pitch, season on season.
19/20 3rd place + semi final
20/21 2nd place + finalists
21/22 not backed properly
posted on 17/1/25
comment by Slack Alice (U9489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Our best manager since Fergie. Had the club not forced the Ronaldo signing on him in 2021, we'd have won the title by now.
The only manager with clear progress on the pitch, season on season.
19/20 3rd place + semi final
20/21 2nd place + finalists
21/22 not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose says hi.
6th place and two trophies
2nd place and FA Cup final
Not backed properly
posted on 17/1/25
comment by Slack Alice (U9489)
posted 12 minutes ago
Our best manager since Fergie. Had the club not forced the Ronaldo signing on him in 2021, we'd have won the title by now.
The only manager with clear progress on the pitch, season on season.
19/20 3rd place + semi final
20/21 2nd place + finalists
21/22 not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You left out the finishing position for 21/22 mate. Can you please update me? Thanks.
posted on 17/1/25
Ole just didn't have it and Jose was past his best - pretty irrelevant who was better between the 2 of them
posted on 17/1/25
Good luck to him but aren’t Galatasaray and Fenerbahce far and away the best teams in Turkey at the moment? Gonna be tough for him to win much there.
posted on 17/1/25
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ole just didn't have it and Jose was past his best - pretty irrelevant who was better between the 2 of them
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both got 2nd in the league against a cheating City
posted on 17/1/25
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ole just didn't have it and Jose was past his best - pretty irrelevant who was better between the 2 of them
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both got 2nd in the league against a cheating City
----------------------------------------------------------------------
honestly, for me it's what happens on the pitch. City should be punished for whatever they have done - whatever that punishment is, some will find some too lenient, others too harsh etc, it's almost pointless to debate.
During that time we wasted millions on players - City beat us because they were better than us, that's how I view it, i don't expect everyone to agree.
posted on 17/1/25
We didn't manage many big wins until we had Ole. Either way, we had few good years but as with all the managers we had, they were not helped from those above them.
I hope he enjoys the success he deserves. And the sore Jose fan boy can cry harder.
posted on 17/1/25
comment by Robb #456 (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by Slack Alice (U9489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Our best manager since Fergie. Had the club not forced the Ronaldo signing on him in 2021, we'd have won the title by now.
The only manager with clear progress on the pitch, season on season.
19/20 3rd place + semi final
20/21 2nd place + finalists
21/22 not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose says hi.
6th place and two trophies
2nd place and FA Cup final
Not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose was backed massively. Most of his signings were rubbish. You love a false narrative.
posted on 17/1/25
Ole came within a single penalty in an eleven kick penalty shootout of winning the Europa league. He played our most attractive football post-SAF. He signed Bruno and Amad.
posted on 17/1/25
comment by Robb #456 (U22716)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Slack Alice (U9489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Our best manager since Fergie. Had the club not forced the Ronaldo signing on him in 2021, we'd have won the title by now.
The only manager with clear progress on the pitch, season on season.
19/20 3rd place + semi final
20/21 2nd place + finalists
21/22 not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose says hi.
6th place and two trophies
2nd place and FA Cup final
Not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
had a nervous meltdown and had to go.
posted on 17/1/25
comment by Robb #456 (U22716)
posted 2 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Slack Alice (U9489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Our best manager since Fergie. Had the club not forced the Ronaldo signing on him in 2021, we'd have won the title by now.
The only manager with clear progress on the pitch, season on season.
19/20 3rd place + semi final
20/21 2nd place + finalists
21/22 not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose says hi.
6th place and two trophies
2nd place and FA Cup final
Not backed properly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pogba, Lukaku, Fred, Zlatan, Matic, Mkhi, Bailey, Sanchez, Lindelof, Dalot.
Jose was backed, €445m says he was.
posted on 17/1/25
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
posted on 17/1/25
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 25 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poor old David Moyes
posted on 17/1/25
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 25 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poor old David Moyes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Strategically left out of the discussion
posted on 17/1/25
Good luck to him at Besiktas
posted on 17/1/25
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 56 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess what is classed as failure. Trophies were won, but we never looked like winning the title. How much is that to blame on the manager, how much on what was going on in the background? We can't say we weren't active in the transfer market over the past 10 years, but once again do you blame the manager or those behind the scenes for what was spent and on whom.
Some people will look at it as a whole load of money spent and no titles in the bag - harsh but the facts.
posted on 17/1/25
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 56 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess what is classed as failure. Trophies were won, but we never looked like winning the title. How much is that to blame on the manager, how much on what was going on in the background? We can't say we weren't active in the transfer market over the past 10 years, but once again do you blame the manager or those behind the scenes for what was spent and on whom.
Some people will look at it as a whole load of money spent and no titles in the bag - harsh but the facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just winning a Cup looks good of their CVs though.
Apparently.
posted on 17/1/25
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 56 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess what is classed as failure. Trophies were won, but we never looked like winning the title. How much is that to blame on the manager, how much on what was going on in the background? We can't say we weren't active in the transfer market over the past 10 years, but once again do you blame the manager or those behind the scenes for what was spent and on whom.
Some people will look at it as a whole load of money spent and no titles in the bag - harsh but the facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was undoubtedly a whole lot of money spent and no titles in the bag.
But large shares of the problem - collectively the bulk of the problem - were always that we had no strategic or tactical continuity, a perpetually disjointed and unbalanced squad, and a penchant for massively overspending on entirely the wrong players.
Beyond *an influence* over transfer targets (because we know well that none of those listed above ever had complete control over transfer targets, and most, if not all, saw players bought that they simply didn’t want), none of those issues had anything to do with the respective managers.
posted on 17/1/25
Can’t wait for Besiktas to play Fenerbahce and cost them the title.
posted on 17/1/25
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Can’t wait for Besiktas to play Fenerbahce and cost them the title.
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posted on 17/1/25
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 56 minutes ago
I might be the only person in the world who believes this, but in context, all of LVG, Mourinho, Solskjaer and ETH did decent jobs at United.
I wouldn't class any of them as failures.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess what is classed as failure. Trophies were won, but we never looked like winning the title. How much is that to blame on the manager, how much on what was going on in the background? We can't say we weren't active in the transfer market over the past 10 years, but once again do you blame the manager or those behind the scenes for what was spent and on whom.
Some people will look at it as a whole load of money spent and no titles in the bag - harsh but the facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was undoubtedly a whole lot of money spent and no titles in the bag.
But large shares of the problem - collectively the bulk of the problem - were always that we had no strategic or tactical continuity, a perpetually disjointed and unbalanced squad, and a penchant for massively overspending on entirely the wrong players.
Beyond *an influence* over transfer targets (because we know well that none of those listed above ever had complete control over transfer targets, and most, if not all, saw players bought that they simply didn’t want), none of those issues had anything to do with the respective managers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whilst you can't get everyone you want, I assume the managers had a fair idea of who was coming in and must have had some input. I can't believe that all of them weren't wanted - given how much we spent, which wasn't the managers' responsibility, I don't think there were many that we didn't get, given we overspent so much.
But it's all in the past, so probably just driving ourselves crazy thinking about it.
Personally, I enjoyed Ole's spell the most just because that was us at our most entertaining. I never really wanted Jose, just don't warm to his tactics etc and we got him too late. LVG was too late for us also. And even for ETH's trophies, so many bad things happened under him, it's difficult to remember his time fondly, bar the win against City in the Cup.
posted on 17/1/25
A Besiktas bid for Rashford must be imminent.
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