Usyk - the GOAT?

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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 23 minutes ago
What he's done is pretty incredible but I don't think he's the goat. He hasn't faced any prime/peak heavy weight opponents. Still a top fighter and bloke
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Well he's beaten a prime Dubois, who I don't think anyone can argue is number 2 in the division. Not Usyk's fault he made him look amateur.

Fury should have fought Usyk more in his prime but he ducked him and made him wait a couple of years.

This is arguably Parker's prime right now, who would be the next best in the division, so if he fights and beats him that will be another one. Same goes for Kabayel if it's him instead.

Maybe the division is better than we think and Usyk is just making it look more ordinary?
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I think Parker might be too big now to beat him.

He's very good. I just don't think the division is too amazing right now. But I'm no expert

In an era when a deadbeat lard-butt like Fury can win titles it's pretty clear the division is in serious trouble over it's credibility.

Anyway, the better boxers and fighters have always been in the more middling divisions.

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 12 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 23 minutes ago
What he's done is pretty incredible but I don't think he's the goat. He hasn't faced any prime/peak heavy weight opponents. Still a top fighter and bloke
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Well he's beaten a prime Dubois, who I don't think anyone can argue is number 2 in the division. Not Usyk's fault he made him look amateur.

Fury should have fought Usyk more in his prime but he ducked him and made him wait a couple of years.

This is arguably Parker's prime right now, who would be the next best in the division, so if he fights and beats him that will be another one. Same goes for Kabayel if it's him instead.

Maybe the division is better than we think and Usyk is just making it look more ordinary?
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I think Parker might be too big now to beat him.

He's very good. I just don't think the division is too amazing right now. But I'm no expert
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No version of Parker beats Usyk but he is currently enjoying his best run of form and thinking about it, he'd probably avenge his losses to Joshua, Whyte and Joyce now if he were to fight them again.

I agree it may not be the strongest era for HWs but there is always the temptation to underrate it when one boxer dominates and makes it look easy. It's still stronger than the Klitschko era.

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
Best of this generation.

I can’t put him ahead of Ali or prime Mike Tyson.
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This is my view pretty much

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 minutes ago

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
Best of this generation.

I can’t put him ahead of Ali or prime Mike Tyson.
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This is my view pretty much

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I actually Usyk beats both, finds a way.

Ali lost 3 times was it?.. iconic yeah, but the GOAT?

people seem to forget those horrible performances... where as Usyk, classy, solid and near perfect every time..

its just the 5 HW fights with Usyk, doesn;t sit well saying he;s the GOAT ... yet

Depends what we’re saying GOAT of for me? Is he the GOAT Cruiserweight? 100%.

GOAT Heavyweight? Could make a case

GOAT boxer? Not too many undefeated, undisputed unified two weight world champs knocking about in the history of the sport.

I don’t think he’s ever been officially knocked down has he (personally I don’t think that Dubois shot was low).

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
Best of this generation.

I can’t put him ahead of Ali or prime Mike Tyson.
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This is my view pretty much
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But does his consistency throughout his career put him above them?

GOAT contenders imo;

Mayweather
Lopez
Usyk
Ali
Robinson
Pacquiao


And personally I’m adding Roy Jones Jnr