Suarez admitted what he said to Evra

An interesting article on the United board (not from a United fan)

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/67488

Pointing out the 'complete nonsense' is coming from Liverpool.

batman eboue couldn't be impartial in picking a packet of crisps. he's find some way to link one to liverpool and then choose the other.

Im a black ghanian man. ive supported the reds from day one. now luis is a great player but first he cheated my country out of the WC now this. Evra is a no good stirrer but suarez has been charged. How am i meant to support a team that has a racist player on here, how are other ethic pools fans or glen johnson meant to feel. luis is not stupid yes hes from a different culture but he knows whats right and wrong. and then i hear another statement if someone can help me that evra says suarez is not a racist. im really confused an disapointed right now.

batman eboue couldn't be impartial in picking a packet of crisps.

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He's an Arsenal fan, who generally hate United more than Liverpool.

I've not seen a single person outside Liverpool defending Suarez and Liverpool. Let Liverpool be bitter about it, the world doesn't need to listen to them condoning racism..

arsenal fans may generally hate man united more than liverpool, but he (as far as i'm aware) has been banned from posting on the liverpool board due to constant taunts, insults and drivel.

he (as far as i'm aware) has been banned from posting on the liverpool board due to constant taunts, insults and drivel.

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If he'd posted that article on the Liverpool board he'd have been banned

It takes far less than constant taunts, insults and drivel to get banned from the Liverpool board

comment by Mouseburger (U8572)

I dont think Liverpool fans have been denying he flipped the bird to the Fulham fans, have they? And they are not alone in defending their own stars when they come under attack from the FA. United do it with Rooney; Chelsea do it with Terry.

However, i think trying to pretend that an independant panel looking into the matter somehow cannot distinguish between cultural differences and racial slurs is somewhat churlish.

These people are learned men and will be well aware of how the club will try and weedle out of getting their star players banned for lengthy spells as (especially in Liverpool's case) they are the engine room of the team.

Also, they will have probably been shown footage of the game that never made it onto the TV screens, which might well have helped form their decision to charge him. We will find out their grounds in due course.

However, he is still innocent until proven guilty - Suarez has the right to appeal, and i expect he will, as 8 games is a long ban. If he doesn't then i think Liverpool fans will have to accept that he doesnt have a leg to stand on, and while he may be a great player, he is a rather grubby individual.
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Brilliant post, up until the start of the last paragraph where you say "However, he is still innocent until proven guilty".

Sorry, but surely he HAS been proven guilty. Yes he has right of appeal, but bearing in mind, as you stated, this was an independent panel, I can only see the length of the ban possibly being altered, his guilt can not be in doubt of any rationally minded person.

That obviously excludes a lot of Liverpool fans on this forum, and no doubt elsewhere.

Piedpiper you moron

Talksrubbish has explained it to you but if you don't understand then I feel sorry for you. Blinded by something.

newWAYNEorder,

Yes he has initially been found guilty by the panel, but until he has exhausted his right to appeal, where he can provide new evidence, then he can still be deemed innocent of the charge. It is looking harder for him to do so, i admit.

If guilty, then i would be amazed if they reduced the length of the ban as what sort of message would that send out regarding racism in the game?? If anything it should be lengthened if the appeal is unsuccessful.

Also, i want to stress that consistency is needed on this issue now, and John Terry, England captain or not, should face the same severity IF he is proved to have committed the same offence.

blav23, if you're Ghanaian then I respect the fact that you will have a greater sensitivty to the words spoken than I do. However, I disagree with your statement that Suarez is racist. Patrice Evra, the FA and black campaigners (sorry if that offends you) from the UK have stated that what he said does not make him racist. You may not agree with them and I respect that but I thnk racism goes much deeper than referring to the colour of someone's skin.

I agree with you that Suarez should know right from wrong. The difficulty with that statement though is that what is right and wrong varies from country to country. If what he said is not necessarily wrong in his own country then apportioning blame is more difficult.

For example, if you were to expound the offical Ghanaian view regarding male homosexuality, when in the UK, then your views would be considered wrong (in fact illegal). Could you be accused of not knowing right from wrong? Would this make you a bad person?