Suarez will now have to leave England for another country where racism is socially acceptable.
Yeah, he called Evra his friend, if you know latin spanish, and gets a 8 game ban... justice served
and ou, what about insults that Evra writtenly admitted.??? It's bans for both or no bans. That would be justice..
Liverpool fans on here are straight from RAWK when A United game is on tv, ultra paranoid
But what's really absurd is the reaction of Liverpool and their fans, denying that Suarez ever said anything and claiming Evra to be the racist?
------------------
No one said Suarez never said anything you muppet, but Suarez did react to Evra's provoking comment, which while it didn't hold any particular offence words, the nature and manner of the comment was aimed to provoke Suarez, which it did.
Evra is no cleaner than Suarez as the provoker.
Also Suarez is being made an example of to deflect the attention away from Blatter, any moron can see that.
I dont think Liverpool fans have been denying he flipped the bird to the Fulham fans, have they? And they are not alone in defending their own stars when they come under attack from the FA. United do it with Rooney; Chelsea do it with Terry.
However, i think trying to pretend that an independant panel looking into the matter somehow cannot distinguish between cultural differences and racial slurs is somewhat churlish.
These people are learned men and will be well aware of how the club will try and weedle out of getting their star players banned for lengthy spells as (especially in Liverpool's case) they are the engine room of the team.
Also, they will have probably been shown footage of the game that never made it onto the TV screens, which might well have helped form their decision to charge him. We will find out their grounds in due course.
However, he is still innocent until proven guilty - Suarez has the right to appeal, and i expect he will, as 8 games is a long ban. If he doesn't then i think Liverpool fans will have to accept that he doesnt have a leg to stand on, and while he may be a great player, he is a rather grubby individual.
But what's really absurd is the reaction of Liverpool and their fans, denying that Suarez ever said anything and claiming Evra to be the racist? This is very bizarre. You've also been saying Suarez never gave the finger to Fulham fans, equally weird because it appeared on the TV cameras
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a load of tosh. Why are you making things up? You will find very, very few lfc fans saying anything of the sort. I know Suarez said what he said, is it completely and totally inconceivable that the FA are the ones that have misinterpretted it? Would it be the first time they've got it wrong?
There's no denying Suarez gave the finger and deserves some form of punishment for it, the same as most other people have got will suffice ie a warning. But this will not happen now the FA have got every Liverpool hating fan on their side and are now on a roll....
So - in their first of the 4-point ruling, the FA have judged that Mr Suarez used insulting words towards Mr Evra - will the same FA charge Monsieur Evra with using insulting words towards Mr Suarez given that good old Patrice has already admitted said offence..... I wonder?
Mouseburger
Grubby?
What is Rooney?
Hernadez is equally culpable of using the word negrito.
No one said Suarez never said anything you muppet, but Suarez did react to Evra's provoking comment, which while it didn't hold any particular offence words, the nature and manner of the comment was aimed to provoke Suarez, which it did.
Evra is no cleaner than Suarez as the provoker.
Also Suarez is being made an example of to deflect the attention away from Blatter, any moron can see that.
-------------------------
What provokong comment was this? That doesn't justify Suarez' reaction at all.
If a black man tells me he doesn't like me, i'm not going to react with racist comments, it's unacceptable. The same applies to everyone.
Your last sentence is funny. The FA don't exactly get on with Blatter do they? So why would they be keen to deflect attention away from him?
Who is denying he said anything? He admitted himself weeks ago that he had said something. Whether what he said can be considered racist is another question. In my opinion that is debatable. If it is not deemed racist in the language in which it was spoken then I find it hard to believe that we can label it exclusively racist when it is not even in the english lexicon.
Is this fella being racist?
http://www.lpmusic.com/Pros_That_Play_LP/Players_Roster/trasante.html
Ther are a lot of silly articles floating around, but this one is the worst. Your opinion is Liverpool fans deny that Suarez said Negrito or made rude gestures to the Fulham fans. Can you back that up with proof OP?
I think the fact that Suarez never denied the term he used shows that it was a cultural difference. Sure he has been in this country for most of this year but if he hasn't heard these words being used - as they are happily not in everyday conversation - and he is not aware of their 'racist' overtones in this country then I think he has been harshly treated. I think the ban and the fine are no really big deal. At the end of the day if LFC do not appeal, Luis could have this 'racist' stain on his character for ever.
You will find very, very few lfc fans saying anything of the sort. I know Suarez said what he said, is it completely and totally inconceivable that the FA are the ones that have misinterpretted it?
------------------------
Liverpool fnas have been denying Suarez said anything. Going on about conspiracy theories and about how the only evidence is Evras word. Completely against the facts extablished.
You claim Suarez didn't mean it to be racist. In that case he needs to learn more about the culture in England
It's not hard to interpret a racist word.
Your last sentence is funny. The FA don't exactly get on with Blatter do they? So why would they be keen to deflect attention away from him?
--------------------------------------------------------------------
article.wn.com/view/2011/06/13/Fifa_vicepresident_Jim_Boyce_says_FA_are_perceived_as_being_/
This may explain why....
This may explain why....
-----------------------
So you think the FA are trying to win Brownie points from FIFA, by banning Suarez
I don't think that's going to give us the 2018 WC...
Liverpool fnas have been denying Suarez said anything. Going on about conspiracy theories and about how the only evidence is Evras word. Completely against the facts extablished
--------------------------------------------------------------------
No they haven't you idiot. Do your research and get your facts straight instead of making up complete falsehoods.
Surely the fact that Suarez admitted to saying what he did is a mitigating factor to a small degree at least? He could of said nothing and it would of been his word against Evra's and the FA would of struggled to prove anything.
So you think the FA are trying to win Brownie points from FIFA, by banning Suarez
I don't think that's going to give us the 2018 WC...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ummm, i think that one's already been decided
How long are you going to spout complete nonsense and continue to embarrass and make yourself look more stupid by the minute?
I thought about seriously responding to this article. But its go more holes in it than the string in Andy Murrays tennis racket. So I'll have to pass.
Pillocks like this arent worth trying to educate.
Surely the fact that Suarez admitted to saying what he did is a mitigating factor to a small degree at least? He could of said nothing and it would of been his word against Evra's and the FA would of struggled to prove anything.
-----------------------
I don't know. Perhaps Suarez was naive? Or perhaps what he said could be heard on the cameras, so he couldn't possibly deny it?
I only used what Suarez admitted to saying as a way of refuting the crazy Liverpool fans who have been in complete denial.
I thought about seriously responding to this article. But its go more holes in it than the string in Andy Murrays tennis racket. So I'll have to pass.
--------------------
That's an example of what i mean, a Liverpool fan who believes Suarez never said anything.
thepiedpiper (U12099)
Sorry, where exactly have I even alluded to that being the case.
That's an example of what i mean, a Liverpool fan who believes Suarez never said anything.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
And where did he say this??
You have got to be on LSD or something, you're hallucinating to an alarming degree. Stop making things up.
Sorry, where exactly have I even alluded to that being the case.
----------------------
because you said my articles 'got more holes in it than the string in Andy Murrays racket.'
So you're saying the article's completely wrong. Which means you think my comment about Suarez admitting what he said is wrong.
Not rocket science
Sign in if you want to comment
Suarez admitted what he said to Evra
Page 1 of 2
posted on 20/12/11
Suarez will now have to leave England for another country where racism is socially acceptable.
posted on 20/12/11
Yeah, he called Evra his friend, if you know latin spanish, and gets a 8 game ban... justice served
and ou, what about insults that Evra writtenly admitted.??? It's bans for both or no bans. That would be justice..
posted on 20/12/11
like Spain
posted on 20/12/11
Liverpool fans on here are straight from RAWK when A United game is on tv, ultra paranoid
posted on 20/12/11
But what's really absurd is the reaction of Liverpool and their fans, denying that Suarez ever said anything and claiming Evra to be the racist?
------------------
No one said Suarez never said anything you muppet, but Suarez did react to Evra's provoking comment, which while it didn't hold any particular offence words, the nature and manner of the comment was aimed to provoke Suarez, which it did.
Evra is no cleaner than Suarez as the provoker.
Also Suarez is being made an example of to deflect the attention away from Blatter, any moron can see that.
posted on 20/12/11
I dont think Liverpool fans have been denying he flipped the bird to the Fulham fans, have they? And they are not alone in defending their own stars when they come under attack from the FA. United do it with Rooney; Chelsea do it with Terry.
However, i think trying to pretend that an independant panel looking into the matter somehow cannot distinguish between cultural differences and racial slurs is somewhat churlish.
These people are learned men and will be well aware of how the club will try and weedle out of getting their star players banned for lengthy spells as (especially in Liverpool's case) they are the engine room of the team.
Also, they will have probably been shown footage of the game that never made it onto the TV screens, which might well have helped form their decision to charge him. We will find out their grounds in due course.
However, he is still innocent until proven guilty - Suarez has the right to appeal, and i expect he will, as 8 games is a long ban. If he doesn't then i think Liverpool fans will have to accept that he doesnt have a leg to stand on, and while he may be a great player, he is a rather grubby individual.
posted on 20/12/11
But what's really absurd is the reaction of Liverpool and their fans, denying that Suarez ever said anything and claiming Evra to be the racist? This is very bizarre. You've also been saying Suarez never gave the finger to Fulham fans, equally weird because it appeared on the TV cameras
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a load of tosh. Why are you making things up? You will find very, very few lfc fans saying anything of the sort. I know Suarez said what he said, is it completely and totally inconceivable that the FA are the ones that have misinterpretted it? Would it be the first time they've got it wrong?
There's no denying Suarez gave the finger and deserves some form of punishment for it, the same as most other people have got will suffice ie a warning. But this will not happen now the FA have got every Liverpool hating fan on their side and are now on a roll....
posted on 20/12/11
So - in their first of the 4-point ruling, the FA have judged that Mr Suarez used insulting words towards Mr Evra - will the same FA charge Monsieur Evra with using insulting words towards Mr Suarez given that good old Patrice has already admitted said offence..... I wonder?
posted on 20/12/11
Mouseburger
Grubby?
What is Rooney?
posted on 20/12/11
Hernadez is equally culpable of using the word negrito.
posted on 20/12/11
No one said Suarez never said anything you muppet, but Suarez did react to Evra's provoking comment, which while it didn't hold any particular offence words, the nature and manner of the comment was aimed to provoke Suarez, which it did.
Evra is no cleaner than Suarez as the provoker.
Also Suarez is being made an example of to deflect the attention away from Blatter, any moron can see that.
-------------------------
What provokong comment was this? That doesn't justify Suarez' reaction at all.
If a black man tells me he doesn't like me, i'm not going to react with racist comments, it's unacceptable. The same applies to everyone.
Your last sentence is funny. The FA don't exactly get on with Blatter do they? So why would they be keen to deflect attention away from him?
posted on 20/12/11
Who is denying he said anything? He admitted himself weeks ago that he had said something. Whether what he said can be considered racist is another question. In my opinion that is debatable. If it is not deemed racist in the language in which it was spoken then I find it hard to believe that we can label it exclusively racist when it is not even in the english lexicon.
Is this fella being racist?
http://www.lpmusic.com/Pros_That_Play_LP/Players_Roster/trasante.html
posted on 20/12/11
Ther are a lot of silly articles floating around, but this one is the worst. Your opinion is Liverpool fans deny that Suarez said Negrito or made rude gestures to the Fulham fans. Can you back that up with proof OP?
posted on 20/12/11
I think the fact that Suarez never denied the term he used shows that it was a cultural difference. Sure he has been in this country for most of this year but if he hasn't heard these words being used - as they are happily not in everyday conversation - and he is not aware of their 'racist' overtones in this country then I think he has been harshly treated. I think the ban and the fine are no really big deal. At the end of the day if LFC do not appeal, Luis could have this 'racist' stain on his character for ever.
posted on 20/12/11
You will find very, very few lfc fans saying anything of the sort. I know Suarez said what he said, is it completely and totally inconceivable that the FA are the ones that have misinterpretted it?
------------------------
Liverpool fnas have been denying Suarez said anything. Going on about conspiracy theories and about how the only evidence is Evras word. Completely against the facts extablished.
You claim Suarez didn't mean it to be racist. In that case he needs to learn more about the culture in England
It's not hard to interpret a racist word.
posted on 20/12/11
Your last sentence is funny. The FA don't exactly get on with Blatter do they? So why would they be keen to deflect attention away from him?
--------------------------------------------------------------------
article.wn.com/view/2011/06/13/Fifa_vicepresident_Jim_Boyce_says_FA_are_perceived_as_being_/
This may explain why....
posted on 20/12/11
This may explain why....
-----------------------
So you think the FA are trying to win Brownie points from FIFA, by banning Suarez
I don't think that's going to give us the 2018 WC...
posted on 20/12/11
Liverpool fnas have been denying Suarez said anything. Going on about conspiracy theories and about how the only evidence is Evras word. Completely against the facts extablished
--------------------------------------------------------------------
No they haven't you idiot. Do your research and get your facts straight instead of making up complete falsehoods.
Surely the fact that Suarez admitted to saying what he did is a mitigating factor to a small degree at least? He could of said nothing and it would of been his word against Evra's and the FA would of struggled to prove anything.
posted on 20/12/11
So you think the FA are trying to win Brownie points from FIFA, by banning Suarez
I don't think that's going to give us the 2018 WC...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ummm, i think that one's already been decided
How long are you going to spout complete nonsense and continue to embarrass and make yourself look more stupid by the minute?
posted on 20/12/11
I thought about seriously responding to this article. But its go more holes in it than the string in Andy Murrays tennis racket. So I'll have to pass.
Pillocks like this arent worth trying to educate.
posted on 20/12/11
Surely the fact that Suarez admitted to saying what he did is a mitigating factor to a small degree at least? He could of said nothing and it would of been his word against Evra's and the FA would of struggled to prove anything.
-----------------------
I don't know. Perhaps Suarez was naive? Or perhaps what he said could be heard on the cameras, so he couldn't possibly deny it?
I only used what Suarez admitted to saying as a way of refuting the crazy Liverpool fans who have been in complete denial.
posted on 20/12/11
I thought about seriously responding to this article. But its go more holes in it than the string in Andy Murrays tennis racket. So I'll have to pass.
--------------------
That's an example of what i mean, a Liverpool fan who believes Suarez never said anything.
posted on 20/12/11
thepiedpiper (U12099)
Sorry, where exactly have I even alluded to that being the case.
posted on 20/12/11
That's an example of what i mean, a Liverpool fan who believes Suarez never said anything.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
And where did he say this??
You have got to be on LSD or something, you're hallucinating to an alarming degree. Stop making things up.
posted on 20/12/11
Sorry, where exactly have I even alluded to that being the case.
----------------------
because you said my articles 'got more holes in it than the string in Andy Murrays racket.'
So you're saying the article's completely wrong. Which means you think my comment about Suarez admitting what he said is wrong.
Not rocket science
Page 1 of 2