Also the humble pie eaten after Morrison was eaten v quietly. We still remember
Also the humble pie eaten after Morrison was eaten v quietly. We still remember
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morrsion was totally different, fergie wanted him out, he was given his chances and let himself and the club down.
I bet Morrison has bad breath.
RR - That totally comes across in his comments 'a 19-year-old player who said no to Ferguson - maybe he took it badly'. 'Despite his 25 year career, despite him being the boss etc etc'. Nice attitude for a teenager to have.
Basically I know best, play me more no matter the circumstances or I leave for free and sign a big money contract at Juve.
SAF stood by his principles and played him when he felt it was right, not when Pogba thought it was right, and Pogba went through with his threat as he got a nice reward as well.
Now he's at Juventus and most likely he'll be treated exactly the same, but him and his agent will just be richer in the short term.
We certainly shouldnt be patting him on the back and saying good luck son imo.
comment by Resident Red (U15357)
posted 9 minutes ago
Also the humble pie eaten after Morrison was eaten v quietly. We still remember
__________________
Yep I referred to that earlier.
There were loads screaming on here about SAF not giving Morrison (supposedly the best in our youth system and England saviour) enough first team chances and not giving him a massive new contract to stop him leaving because he wanted to play more first team football etc etc. Our youth system/policy was in meltdown too because of him, when all along SAF didnt want Morrison for obvious reasons, and Morrison had not rejected a contract as he wanted to stay.
Now all those people never mention Morrison, other than to use hindsight to change their view about him, and instead say it was Pogba that was the talent all along, and he's the one who should have been treated differently/as special and played even if SAF didnt think he was ready and paid wages out of kilter with everyone else.
These people usually think SAF doesnt give young players a chance any more as well, when our squad is full of young players including Welbeck, Clev, Rafael etc (even Fabio played a CL final) and SAF has just bought De Gea, Jones, Smalling, Powell etc etc to add to the likes of Evans....
the thing i find frustrating is the amount of time and finances ( beit wages, compensation, money spent furthering players abilities) only to have them run down their contracts.
Fergie has stated he was a keen admirer of pogba, so if this was the case, why wassnt his contract sorted earlier??
if he wasnt going to sign, then fine, but at lease the club would have known and would then be in a position to make something out of a sale.
Totally agree sweet pea...i sometime wish that these forums had a private sykpe where utd fans could argue face to face i just refuse to waste half my day writing out arguement which get completely overlooked
Admin ?
comment by Resident Red (U15357)
posted 14 minutes ago
The point is ..dont get bigger than your station.
What age is this fool...19...let him eat his cake in
Italy.
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What an incredible foolish statement. When ronaldo stumps after being subbed what is that? When rooney demands we should buy players before he signs he contract, what the eff is that?
There is only 2 things he would want, play more and more money. The fact juve offered it shows the market price wage wise. That rafael and park can start ahead of him shows no matter what spin fergie was trying ( and he was trying) he just lacks the cojones to put them in anymore or really rely on them.
People keep saying he is not ready. There is no one from our youth system as talented as pogba will ever stay then, simple because if we can identify lucas as ready at 19, anyone can identify the best youngster in our youth system is ready to start, well except united.
a one to one argument, sounds fun
surely the idea of a forum is to have as many peoples opinions as possible Resident??
Its all good i like debate but im an android user and its driving me insane.
Imagine a button that you could click that offered a direct skype theo thwarting forrummer..be great fun and a lot easier to get points across. I know sometimes i would read something and pick up agressive tones when that might not be the case
"lol it's like the charge of the filtered brigade.
You can feel the bitterness."
Dude if you are going to filter people for no reason then fine but signing out to read their comments kind of defeats the purpose. Very sad but whatever floats your boat.
He's filtered me too
Why?
Saint, I don't even know the chap then found out one day I couldn't comment on his article.
Red Con - Got a question or few for you...
If money wasn't the primary motivating factor for Pogba and his agent, and instead it was playing regular first team football, then why move to Juventus, the place where your brand new agent has a recent history of moving young high potential players for big multimillion pound bonuses?
If regular first team football was more important, then why not move to a smaller side where you would play practically every week? Maybe sign a shorter contract with that side, or one with a buy out clause so you could step up a level asap if you're a star?
Indeed, why not sign with Manchester United, arguably the biggest club in the world, where you claim to be happy, but just want more football, and ask to go out on loan, maybe to even another Prem club? Beckham, Cleverley, Welbeck etc all played regularly on loan, but still got to play for United, and still got paid United wages.
So why Juve in particular if playing regular first team football was more important to Pogba, than money to himself and his agent?
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posted on 21/8/12
Also the humble pie eaten after Morrison was eaten v quietly. We still remember
posted on 21/8/12
Also the humble pie eaten after Morrison was eaten v quietly. We still remember
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morrsion was totally different, fergie wanted him out, he was given his chances and let himself and the club down.
posted on 21/8/12
I bet Morrison has bad breath.
posted on 21/8/12
RR - That totally comes across in his comments 'a 19-year-old player who said no to Ferguson - maybe he took it badly'. 'Despite his 25 year career, despite him being the boss etc etc'. Nice attitude for a teenager to have.
Basically I know best, play me more no matter the circumstances or I leave for free and sign a big money contract at Juve.
SAF stood by his principles and played him when he felt it was right, not when Pogba thought it was right, and Pogba went through with his threat as he got a nice reward as well.
Now he's at Juventus and most likely he'll be treated exactly the same, but him and his agent will just be richer in the short term.
We certainly shouldnt be patting him on the back and saying good luck son imo.
posted on 21/8/12
comment by Resident Red (U15357)
posted 9 minutes ago
Also the humble pie eaten after Morrison was eaten v quietly. We still remember
__________________
Yep I referred to that earlier.
There were loads screaming on here about SAF not giving Morrison (supposedly the best in our youth system and England saviour) enough first team chances and not giving him a massive new contract to stop him leaving because he wanted to play more first team football etc etc. Our youth system/policy was in meltdown too because of him, when all along SAF didnt want Morrison for obvious reasons, and Morrison had not rejected a contract as he wanted to stay.
Now all those people never mention Morrison, other than to use hindsight to change their view about him, and instead say it was Pogba that was the talent all along, and he's the one who should have been treated differently/as special and played even if SAF didnt think he was ready and paid wages out of kilter with everyone else.
These people usually think SAF doesnt give young players a chance any more as well, when our squad is full of young players including Welbeck, Clev, Rafael etc (even Fabio played a CL final) and SAF has just bought De Gea, Jones, Smalling, Powell etc etc to add to the likes of Evans....
posted on 21/8/12
the thing i find frustrating is the amount of time and finances ( beit wages, compensation, money spent furthering players abilities) only to have them run down their contracts.
Fergie has stated he was a keen admirer of pogba, so if this was the case, why wassnt his contract sorted earlier??
if he wasnt going to sign, then fine, but at lease the club would have known and would then be in a position to make something out of a sale.
posted on 21/8/12
Totally agree sweet pea...i sometime wish that these forums had a private sykpe where utd fans could argue face to face i just refuse to waste half my day writing out arguement which get completely overlooked
Admin ?
posted on 21/8/12
comment by Resident Red (U15357)
posted 14 minutes ago
The point is ..dont get bigger than your station.
What age is this fool...19...let him eat his cake in
Italy.
*************
What an incredible foolish statement. When ronaldo stumps after being subbed what is that? When rooney demands we should buy players before he signs he contract, what the eff is that?
There is only 2 things he would want, play more and more money. The fact juve offered it shows the market price wage wise. That rafael and park can start ahead of him shows no matter what spin fergie was trying ( and he was trying) he just lacks the cojones to put them in anymore or really rely on them.
People keep saying he is not ready. There is no one from our youth system as talented as pogba will ever stay then, simple because if we can identify lucas as ready at 19, anyone can identify the best youngster in our youth system is ready to start, well except united.
posted on 21/8/12
a one to one argument, sounds fun
surely the idea of a forum is to have as many peoples opinions as possible Resident??
posted on 21/8/12
Its all good i like debate but im an android user and its driving me insane.
Imagine a button that you could click that offered a direct skype theo thwarting forrummer..be great fun and a lot easier to get points across. I know sometimes i would read something and pick up agressive tones when that might not be the case
posted on 21/8/12
"lol it's like the charge of the filtered brigade.
You can feel the bitterness."
Dude if you are going to filter people for no reason then fine but signing out to read their comments kind of defeats the purpose. Very sad but whatever floats your boat.
posted on 21/8/12
He's filtered me too
Why?
posted on 21/8/12
Saint, I don't even know the chap then found out one day I couldn't comment on his article.
posted on 23/8/12
Red Con - Got a question or few for you...
If money wasn't the primary motivating factor for Pogba and his agent, and instead it was playing regular first team football, then why move to Juventus, the place where your brand new agent has a recent history of moving young high potential players for big multimillion pound bonuses?
If regular first team football was more important, then why not move to a smaller side where you would play practically every week? Maybe sign a shorter contract with that side, or one with a buy out clause so you could step up a level asap if you're a star?
Indeed, why not sign with Manchester United, arguably the biggest club in the world, where you claim to be happy, but just want more football, and ask to go out on loan, maybe to even another Prem club? Beckham, Cleverley, Welbeck etc all played regularly on loan, but still got to play for United, and still got paid United wages.
So why Juve in particular if playing regular first team football was more important to Pogba, than money to himself and his agent?
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