We need a winner. Someone of Xavi's stature will grab the attention of the dressing room.
He was class player, won the lot and won the league as a manager.
He won't play wing backs as 10's and will try to play Barcaball. And he isn't afraid to play youngsters either.
comment by Hengy - The Game Is About League Position (U9129)
posted 38 minutes ago
Alastair Gold reporting the players aren’t happy about the situation
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The players being on board with Ange and not being happy he's left I could understand being a significant sticking point, had we actually been playing well throughout the season. But we were garbage for most of it. The performances were poor, whether injured players played or not, or whether the players were behind the manager or not.
To me it just reemphasises how poor these tactics have been. You have all the players on your side and still lose 22 games.
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
We need a winner. Someone of Xavi's stature will grab the attention of the dressing room.
He was class player, won the lot and won the league as a manager.
He won't play wing backs as 10's and will try to play Barcaball. And he isn't afraid to play youngsters either.
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I'm not bothered about these "proven winners", I'm interested in getting someone who seems like a good coach and good fit for Spurs who can improve us and get us back where we feel we belong. We've been down the 'winners' route and it's proven to be no better than non winners. Poch wasn't a winner as we know and we came closest to achieving on all fronts with him than anyone else.
Yes but this time we have a squad full of winners. The dynamic has changed as has the outlook for them.
They will forget the league form and only focus on the fact they won a trophy and want more next season.
If they hired Frank, my first thought as a player, would be, ok, we just sacked a winner for someone who has won nothing. Why should I respect him?
Players are ruthless.This is a major hurdle Frank will have to overcome.
And we need to carry on with the theme of bringing in winning managers from now one.
Because that's what we are and aspire to be.
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes but this time we have a squad full of winners. The dynamic has changed as has the outlook for them.
They will forget the league form and only focus on the fact they won a trophy and want more next season.
If they hired Frank, my first thought as a player, would be, ok, we just sacked a winner for someone who has won nothing. Why should I respect him?
Players are ruthless.This is a major hurdle Frank will have to overcome.
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apparently the Liverpool squad was pretty snobbish about slot at first
then he won them over by doing a good job
Slot was a winner before Liverpool
Xavi was the right manager at the right time for Barca. He took over when the club was at its lowest ebb, blooded a bunch of youngsters, put up with the terrible PR, internal and external pressure and lack of funds, and put together a solid, effective team that managed to win the league and battered Madrid a few times along the way. He did it because it's his lifelong club and the players responded to that, and obviously they respected his legend status too.
The football wasn't great though. At best it was a slightly more direct possession game, but at its worst it was literally "get it to Dembele/Yamal and hope for the best." They were incredible defensively, especially in the title season with the BACK four (Balde-Araujo-Christensen-Kounde), but that was based on a whole lot of 1-0 wins when the team looked a bit lost when it came to breaking down a defence, relying more often than not on individual moments rather than tactical solutions.
It often felt almost like Xavi the manager couldn't work out why his players couldn't see the game the way Xavi the player used to. It's weird how such a talented playmaker built a team that was so bad at playmaking. Granted it didn't help that Pedri was always injured under Xavi.
Eventually the media and the Barca entorno got hold of him and he started visibly cracking - there truthfully wasn't much more he could've done given the financial constraints he was under but it felt like he hit a hard ceiling when Madrid got better under Ancelotti and he didn't seem capable of changing the Barca system to keep up. He got more and more brittle and tetchy in the press and even Laporta started talking openly about Xavi leaving way before the season was up.
On the whole he did amazingly at Barca under impossible circumstances but I really think a lot of it was down to how much he loved the club and how much the players connected with him as a Barca man through and through. I don't think that would translate to a different club where he has no connection, and I fundamentally don't think he's tactically advanced enough to hit the heights in the Prem.
He's absolutely wedded to a 433 which becomes a 3-box-3 in possession, which most elite teams have moved on from now, and I don't think he'd get on well with Levy since Levy can't lean on the club connection angle when refusing to give him the players he wants - I reckon Xavi would just say fack this, I'm off.
Just my $0.02
🚨⚪️ Tottenham are advancing well on Thomas Frank appointment as new head coach with more talks to follow next week.
Club optimistic to make it happen soon.
@FabrizioRomano
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
And we need to carry on with the theme of bringing in winning managers from now one.
Because that's what we are and aspire to be.
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We need to win trophies and get to the other end of the table. Surely the players would have also wondered why we were so low in the league with Ange? I mean they can respect him all they like, that must still cross their minds.
I think you're making more of a deal about this than is necessary. Players will quickly move on if another manager comes in whose personality they like and who has a philosophy they can get behind.
Agreed and it will test Frank's man management skils if he is hired. He does seem more hands on than Ange in the training clips I have seen. He will install confidence and motivate them. That's clear to see.
It is a hurdle he will have to overcome if he is to win their respect post Ange. Not an impossible either.
I just think if you hired a winner, the players will respect him from the get go. And if he has previous in winning a league, even better. He can challenge them to win one with him and he can say this is how you do it.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
And we need to carry on with the theme of bringing in winning managers from now one.
Because that's what we are and aspire to be.
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We need to win trophies and get to the other end of the table. Surely the players would have also wondered why we were so low in the league with Ange? I mean they can respect him all they like, that must still cross their minds.
I think you're making more of a deal about this than is necessary. Players will quickly move on if another manager comes in whose personality they like and who has a philosophy they can get behind.
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Absolutely. He'll be yesterday's news 2 weeks into pre season.
Brian Austin
"Boss, Thank you for everything and giving me an opportunity"
He should have said one opportunity for bantz.
🚨 NEW: Thomas Frank's release clause at Brentford is believed to be in the region of £10M. | @Telegraph
Chelsea in for Gittens.
PrayForHengy
Chelsea in for every forward in Europe
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
Brian Austin
"Boss, Thank you for everything and giving me an opportunity"
He should have said one opportunity for bantz.
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Brian 😂
Thomas Frank wants Tottenham to rival Manchester United for Bryan Mbeumo’s signature.
@MirrorDarren
£60m + £250k wages a week. Good luck.
Welcome to Tottenham Thomas Frank
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
Brian Austin
"Boss, Thank you for everything and giving me an opportunity"
He should have said one opportunity for bantz.
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Brian 😂
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😂🙈
Loads of rumours that levy is stepping down
Fenerbahçe are close to signing Yves Bissouma. Fenerbahçe talks with #thfc are now at an advanced stage. The midfielder would move on an initial loan deal, but with an obligation to make it a permanent transfer. Yves Bissouma has already agreed personal terms. [Fanatik]
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 10 seconds ago
Fenerbahçe are close to signing Yves Bissouma. Fenerbahçe talks with #thfc are now at an advanced stage. The midfielder would move on an initial loan deal, but with an obligation to make it a permanent transfer. Yves Bissouma has already agreed personal terms. [Fanatik]
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We need the money now
For £60m can't we need better than Mbeumo? Or is he that good?
Never going to happen because we won’t pay the wages
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
For £60m can't we need better than Mbeumo? Or is he that good?
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20 goals and 7 assists is a great season for a team like Brentford. It betters what Solanke did for the same price.
Not that old either at 25 and would play under the same manager who he produced those stats for, so yeah more than worth it IMO.
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posted on 7/6/25
We need a winner. Someone of Xavi's stature will grab the attention of the dressing room.
He was class player, won the lot and won the league as a manager.
He won't play wing backs as 10's and will try to play Barcaball. And he isn't afraid to play youngsters either.
posted on 7/6/25
comment by Hengy - The Game Is About League Position (U9129)
posted 38 minutes ago
Alastair Gold reporting the players aren’t happy about the situation
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The players being on board with Ange and not being happy he's left I could understand being a significant sticking point, had we actually been playing well throughout the season. But we were garbage for most of it. The performances were poor, whether injured players played or not, or whether the players were behind the manager or not.
To me it just reemphasises how poor these tactics have been. You have all the players on your side and still lose 22 games.
posted on 7/6/25
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
We need a winner. Someone of Xavi's stature will grab the attention of the dressing room.
He was class player, won the lot and won the league as a manager.
He won't play wing backs as 10's and will try to play Barcaball. And he isn't afraid to play youngsters either.
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I'm not bothered about these "proven winners", I'm interested in getting someone who seems like a good coach and good fit for Spurs who can improve us and get us back where we feel we belong. We've been down the 'winners' route and it's proven to be no better than non winners. Poch wasn't a winner as we know and we came closest to achieving on all fronts with him than anyone else.
posted on 7/6/25
Yes but this time we have a squad full of winners. The dynamic has changed as has the outlook for them.
They will forget the league form and only focus on the fact they won a trophy and want more next season.
If they hired Frank, my first thought as a player, would be, ok, we just sacked a winner for someone who has won nothing. Why should I respect him?
Players are ruthless.This is a major hurdle Frank will have to overcome.
posted on 7/6/25
And we need to carry on with the theme of bringing in winning managers from now one.
Because that's what we are and aspire to be.
posted on 7/6/25
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes but this time we have a squad full of winners. The dynamic has changed as has the outlook for them.
They will forget the league form and only focus on the fact they won a trophy and want more next season.
If they hired Frank, my first thought as a player, would be, ok, we just sacked a winner for someone who has won nothing. Why should I respect him?
Players are ruthless.This is a major hurdle Frank will have to overcome.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
apparently the Liverpool squad was pretty snobbish about slot at first
then he won them over by doing a good job
posted on 7/6/25
Slot was a winner before Liverpool
posted on 7/6/25
Xavi was the right manager at the right time for Barca. He took over when the club was at its lowest ebb, blooded a bunch of youngsters, put up with the terrible PR, internal and external pressure and lack of funds, and put together a solid, effective team that managed to win the league and battered Madrid a few times along the way. He did it because it's his lifelong club and the players responded to that, and obviously they respected his legend status too.
The football wasn't great though. At best it was a slightly more direct possession game, but at its worst it was literally "get it to Dembele/Yamal and hope for the best." They were incredible defensively, especially in the title season with the BACK four (Balde-Araujo-Christensen-Kounde), but that was based on a whole lot of 1-0 wins when the team looked a bit lost when it came to breaking down a defence, relying more often than not on individual moments rather than tactical solutions.
It often felt almost like Xavi the manager couldn't work out why his players couldn't see the game the way Xavi the player used to. It's weird how such a talented playmaker built a team that was so bad at playmaking. Granted it didn't help that Pedri was always injured under Xavi.
Eventually the media and the Barca entorno got hold of him and he started visibly cracking - there truthfully wasn't much more he could've done given the financial constraints he was under but it felt like he hit a hard ceiling when Madrid got better under Ancelotti and he didn't seem capable of changing the Barca system to keep up. He got more and more brittle and tetchy in the press and even Laporta started talking openly about Xavi leaving way before the season was up.
On the whole he did amazingly at Barca under impossible circumstances but I really think a lot of it was down to how much he loved the club and how much the players connected with him as a Barca man through and through. I don't think that would translate to a different club where he has no connection, and I fundamentally don't think he's tactically advanced enough to hit the heights in the Prem.
He's absolutely wedded to a 433 which becomes a 3-box-3 in possession, which most elite teams have moved on from now, and I don't think he'd get on well with Levy since Levy can't lean on the club connection angle when refusing to give him the players he wants - I reckon Xavi would just say fack this, I'm off.
Just my $0.02
posted on 7/6/25
🚨⚪️ Tottenham are advancing well on Thomas Frank appointment as new head coach with more talks to follow next week.
Club optimistic to make it happen soon.
@FabrizioRomano
posted on 7/6/25
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
And we need to carry on with the theme of bringing in winning managers from now one.
Because that's what we are and aspire to be.
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We need to win trophies and get to the other end of the table. Surely the players would have also wondered why we were so low in the league with Ange? I mean they can respect him all they like, that must still cross their minds.
I think you're making more of a deal about this than is necessary. Players will quickly move on if another manager comes in whose personality they like and who has a philosophy they can get behind.
posted on 7/6/25
Agreed and it will test Frank's man management skils if he is hired. He does seem more hands on than Ange in the training clips I have seen. He will install confidence and motivate them. That's clear to see.
It is a hurdle he will have to overcome if he is to win their respect post Ange. Not an impossible either.
I just think if you hired a winner, the players will respect him from the get go. And if he has previous in winning a league, even better. He can challenge them to win one with him and he can say this is how you do it.
posted on 7/6/25
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
And we need to carry on with the theme of bringing in winning managers from now one.
Because that's what we are and aspire to be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We need to win trophies and get to the other end of the table. Surely the players would have also wondered why we were so low in the league with Ange? I mean they can respect him all they like, that must still cross their minds.
I think you're making more of a deal about this than is necessary. Players will quickly move on if another manager comes in whose personality they like and who has a philosophy they can get behind.
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Absolutely. He'll be yesterday's news 2 weeks into pre season.
posted on 7/6/25
Brian Austin
"Boss, Thank you for everything and giving me an opportunity"
He should have said one opportunity for bantz.
posted on 7/6/25
🚨 NEW: Thomas Frank's release clause at Brentford is believed to be in the region of £10M. | @Telegraph
posted on 7/6/25
Chelsea in for Gittens.
PrayForHengy
posted on 7/6/25
Chelsea in for every forward in Europe
posted on 7/6/25
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
Brian Austin
"Boss, Thank you for everything and giving me an opportunity"
He should have said one opportunity for bantz.
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Brian 😂
posted on 7/6/25
Thomas Frank wants Tottenham to rival Manchester United for Bryan Mbeumo’s signature.
@MirrorDarren
£60m + £250k wages a week. Good luck.
Welcome to Tottenham Thomas Frank
posted on 7/6/25
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
Brian Austin
"Boss, Thank you for everything and giving me an opportunity"
He should have said one opportunity for bantz.
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Brian 😂
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😂🙈
posted on 7/6/25
Loads of rumours that levy is stepping down
posted on 7/6/25
Fenerbahçe are close to signing Yves Bissouma. Fenerbahçe talks with #thfc are now at an advanced stage. The midfielder would move on an initial loan deal, but with an obligation to make it a permanent transfer. Yves Bissouma has already agreed personal terms. [Fanatik]
posted on 7/6/25
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 10 seconds ago
Fenerbahçe are close to signing Yves Bissouma. Fenerbahçe talks with #thfc are now at an advanced stage. The midfielder would move on an initial loan deal, but with an obligation to make it a permanent transfer. Yves Bissouma has already agreed personal terms. [Fanatik]
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We need the money now
posted on 7/6/25
For £60m can't we need better than Mbeumo? Or is he that good?
posted on 7/6/25
Never going to happen because we won’t pay the wages
posted on 7/6/25
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
For £60m can't we need better than Mbeumo? Or is he that good?
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20 goals and 7 assists is a great season for a team like Brentford. It betters what Solanke did for the same price.
Not that old either at 25 and would play under the same manager who he produced those stats for, so yeah more than worth it IMO.
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