I think what he offers most is his experience and guidance, something which could possibly be done in a coaching role

Think he's already done his coaching badges now

I think he and Scholes do still contribute however i would hope that the 1 or 2 players brought in when they retire could offer more and therefore the squad is weaker with them than it would be without.

Aye I hope we get a very decent replacement in for Scholes next season.

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No wumming

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This isn't about what Giggs does to refs, I'm discussing with my fellow United fans if it's time for him to retire or not. Stop trying to ruin the topic.

Just delete the idiot Arab. He's only going to ruin this thread.

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Just go away TCP, thanks.

RVP, just delete the tw unt.

Giggs should be put to pasture. That is not even up for debate. If he had any moral code, he would quit in January like Neville.

Which is worse, putting words into a ref's ear or putting words in their mouth?

Agreed TRC, I'm so happy SAF is starting to see the golden oldies can't do it for 90 minutes anymore. It took the Spurs game for him to realise it, I was surprised Giggs wasn't even on the bench yesterday as well. It's looking good right now.

Giggs played 120 minutes mid week, he was never going to be on the bench yesterday

SAF's persistent use of him has made me paranoid to think he would have been.

I also agree that Giggs should retire but as shown in the Chelsea game he can still have an impact, and RVP you mention that they can't do it for 90 minutes anymore but Giggs did 120 midweek

Its been a pleasant surprise to see Scholes hasn't played for a good few weeks now. Don't get me wrong, I think Scholes can still do a job, but it looks like fergie's finally letting go of them and putting some faith in the likes of clevs and ando.

I just hope the 2 of them stay fit, or we're back to square one.

Nice to see you talking normal again Arab - Yesterday I kept seeing you on the Arsenal board with caps lock and swearing hysterically!

As for Giggs he'll retire only when there is guaranteed 3-4 players occupying the middle of the park. For now we can only guarantee Carricks name. Until the other names don't make the positions their own, he'll still be able to contribute.

I was on their match thread Phoenix because it was a bit livelier than WKC's, and the Arsenal fans are funny when their team is playing

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I believe Giggs' days as a starter should be effectively finished. However he still has the creative ability to be a useful impact sub, and both he and Scholes are excellent at seeing out games. I still love to watch them both play, and as a bit of a romantic, i will be devastated when they both retire.

Giggs probably isnt united quality anymore but could easily stillnplay for lower clubs. But for the life of me i dont understand why he hasnt retired yet he has money trophies fame ect and he is quite old now aswell.