Slightly off topic
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Having struggled to settle at Marseille, Cantona moved to Bordeaux on a six-month loan and then to Montpellier on a year-long loan. At Montpellier, he was involved in a fight with team-mate Jean-Claude Lemoult and threw his boots in Lemoult's face. The incident led to six players demanding that Cantona be sacked. However, with the support of team-mates such as Laurent Blanc and Carlos Valderrama, the club retained his services, although they banned him from the ground for ten days.[10] Cantona was instrumental as the team went on to win the French Cup and his form persuaded Marseille to take him back.

In December 1991, during a match for Nîmes he threw the ball at the referee, having been angered by one of his decisions. He was summoned to a disciplinary hearing by the French Football Federation and was banned for one month. Cantona responded by walking up to each member of the hearing committee in turn and calling him an idiot. His ban was increased to two months, and Cantona subsequently announced his retirement from football on 16 December 1991.[11]

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Good old eric

Cantona responded by walking up to each member of the hearing committee in turn and calling him an idiot. His ban was increased to two months

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comment by Statman John (U7425) posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Mancblueloz grassing up refs to the fuzz since 1976 (U6305)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well my thread has descended into a fine mess.
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It started off so nicely too. It is posters like TOOR that the admins should be really looking at. He came on this thread with the purpose of stirring up trouble and has destroyed what was going to be a good light-hearted thread.
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You destroyed the thread with your bias and failure to be neutral. Like I said, Carragher's could have been red but it was a mistimed tackle. Rooney intentionally elbowed a player in the head and you said yellow. That's what I'm dealing with here.

Statman

There was a similar case last year where a man singled out one player out of 22 who he believed had racially abused him. The accused man admitted to calling him a name on Uruguayan radio, also said what happens on a football pitch stays on a football pitch. The same guy when given the opportunity of telling his side of the story then lied about the use of the word he used, then accepted he used the term only once but lied again about what way he used the term. He then accepted a guilty charge but rejected the punishment with his lawyer present. He then refused to shake the hand of the person he offended but in spite of all that, the person in the wrong according to most of them is the guy who was abused.

Go figure

Toor

Like it said, it could have been a red.
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Well Carragher said himself it SHOULD of been red.
So you hide behind your could fella!!!

TOOR, no comment about Gerrard's elbows? That's assault, trying to kill someone like you suggested.

How many games should he be banned for?

The penalty not given against Madrid or the onside goal not given against Madrid?
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Can you refresh my memory, I don't remember an onside goal disallowed. The penalty, What you mean the Rafael handball that no player protested about because it was nothing.

that kompany red was harsh I agree

comment by RED666 (U6562) posted 1 minute ago
Toor

Like it said, it could have been a red.
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Well Carragher said himself it SHOULD of been red.
So you hide behind your could fella!!!
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I'm sure many people think it should have been a red, not only Carragher. I've never stated otherwise. I've just given my opinion that it was borderline and I couldn't have complaints if it were red.

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Statman John (U7425) posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Mancblueloz grassing up refs to the fuzz since 1976 (U6305)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well my thread has descended into a fine mess.
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It started off so nicely too. It is posters like TOOR that the admins should be really looking at. He came on this thread with the purpose of stirring up trouble and has destroyed what was going to be a good light-hearted thread.
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You destroyed the thread with your bias and failure to be neutral. Like I said, Carragher's could have been red but it was a mistimed tackle. Rooney intentionally elbowed a player in the head and you said yellow. That's what I'm dealing with here.
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No I said it could have been a red. I personally think that there was some mitigation with McCarthy intentionally stepping in front of Rooney to block him off. Had Rooney not brought his arm up, his face would have come into contact with McCarthy's body - probably his shoulder. So I think that there is at least a little excuse for him bringing his arm up.

I think Carra's tackle was a nailed on red. Rooney's was borderline, but if he'd got a red, or a retrospective ban, fair enough.

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612) posted 20 seconds ago
TOOR, no comment about Gerrard's elbows? That's assault, trying to kill someone like you suggested.

How many games should he be banned for?
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Did Gerrard elbow a player? Refresh my memory as I can't remember him doing it.

comment by Greg- (U1192) posted 1 minute ago
The penalty not given against Madrid or the onside goal not given against Madrid?
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Can you refresh my memory, I don't remember an onside goal disallowed. The penalty, What you mean the Rafael handball that no player protested about because it was nothing.
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Yes, it's nothing when a United player does it, this after for two seasons United fans calling Suarez a vile and disgusting cheat for doing the same thing. Words fail me.

Gerrard elbowed two players. Michael Brown and Danny Welbeck.

Would you like me to post the videos?

For what its worth the goal wasn;t disallowed for being offside but for Ramos wrongly for climbing, the pen for handball would have been given if seen and potentially the Evra Penalty for United as well.

So Rooney was protecting himself by elbowing somebody in the head from behind?

I've heard it all now.

TOOR

What did you make of Gerrard's elbow on Michael Brown? That was a genuine occasion where a player ran up behind an opponent and elbowed him in the head. Not like the situation with Rooney and McCarthy where you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

Seeing as you are 'unable to watch videos at work', I will invite other posters on this board to watch the Rooney incident, and ask them to give their opinion as to whether:

A. Rooney ran up behind McCarthy
B. Rooney caught McCarthy with the elbow or forearm
C. McCarthy deliberately stepped in front of Rooney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjVU6Twg2lg

comment by BoltonBlue (But born in Manchester) (U6082) posted 3 minutes ago
For what its worth the goal wasn;t disallowed for being offside but for Ramos wrongly for climbing, the pen for handball would have been given if seen and potentially the Evra Penalty for United as well.
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The Evra incident was a stonewall penalty also.

TOOR has conveniently forgotten Gerrard's two elbows but remembers Rooney's.

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612) posted 3 minutes ago
Gerrard elbowed two players. Michael Brown and Danny Welbeck.

Would you like me to post the videos?
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I can't watch videos, I'm in work. But if he did and wasn't punished, then yes, he should have been.

Id have to say garcias non goal against chelsea has to be the worst decision ever

Toor.
you're comparing the Rafael handball to suarezs goalkeeper save in the world cup, really mate??

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
So Rooney was protecting himself by elbowing somebody in the head from behind?

I've heard it all now.
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I think you are getting confused here. It was Gerrard that elbowed a player from behind. Rooney caught McCarthy with his forearm from the front after he stepped in front of him. Red card? Possibly. But not as bad as what Gerrard did to Michael Brown.

comment by blabla (U11635) posted 58 seconds ago
Id have to say garcias non goal against chelsea has to be the worst decision ever
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Yeah it was a disgrace, it wasn't clear whether it was over the line and thus he couldn't give it, sending off the goal keeper and giving us a penalty. It turned out alright anyhow as we still won but it's not always the case.

comment by Greg- (U1192) posted 1 minute ago
Toor.
you're comparing the Rafael handball to suarezs goalkeeper save in the world cup, really mate??
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Yes, why not? The only difference is one is a United player, one Liverpool.

comment by Statman John (U7425) posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
So Rooney was protecting himself by elbowing somebody in the head from behind?

I've heard it all now.
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I think you are getting confused here. It was Gerrard that elbowed a player from behind. Rooney caught McCarthy with his forearm from the front after he stepped in front of him. Red card? Possibly. But not as bad as what Gerrard did to Michael Brown.
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As I said, if Gerrard did the same, he should have been punished. I don't see why we have to keep going on about it.

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Greg- (U1192) posted 1 minute ago
Toor.
you're comparing the Rafael handball to suarezs goalkeeper save in the world cup, really mate??
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Yes, why not? The only difference is one is a United player, one Liverpool.
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