that was really close it was like 49.9% come on, the umpire should have given that out

oh just realised it was smith lol and not clark yeah dont care any more, it does not matter his a walking wicket anyways

How can anyone be angry about that? Hawkeye does not know all, there can be as much as an inch of uncertainty and that's just in the 2 ft from batsman to stumps, you can't possibly overturn a decision based on Hawkeye unless it's careening into middle stump.

Why did you say that

He'll get a ton now

The umpire was right to be sure that he couldn't be sure.

Who can be certain of a 2mm margin over 22 yards to a ball that is fizzing, turning and bouncing?

Umpire's call - good decision.

I agree Dunc, if the technology was made to overturn 'howlers', then its difficult to argue with any great certainty that it was a howler.

so if the umpire gave that out, would we not have said good call by the umpire well done

No.

DRS is taking a whole stump out of play though, I'm not saying it's the wrong decision but if he'd given that out it would've been the right decision. We need more consistency in the system. If you're gonna give that not out then England should definitely not lose a review

Not necessarily, though Beefy probably would have done as he hates the Aussies

yeah loosing a review for that is harsh but then again kawaja lost his and that was very harsh dec.

Obviously you can;t read so I'll help you out.

This is just from 5 posts back, "Hawkeye is a predictive technology, IMO there shouldn't even be an umpires call ruling, any replay that shows less than half of the ball hitting should be given not out."

So no, I wouldn't say congrats to the umpire had he said out originally.

Australia lost reviews on umpires call in the last few matches, I have no problem with that. I really just have a problem with the umpires call and the complete and utter erosion of "the benefit of the doubt for a batsman" that DRS has helped engender.

Clarke having a very good knock so far, a real stabilising force for this side. If England can get Smith and Warner out cheaply that'd be a real fillet though

It hinges on those two. They can take the game away or give it away.

May be using a bit of common sense by third umpire would help.

Oh ffs warne still going about kawaja, well done clarke he looks on good form

If you're gonna use the technology then at least make sure it's accurate. At the moment if the umpire gives it not out then only 2 stumps are available to give the decision. If it's out then all 3 come in to play. And then you lose a review if the ball is hitting a lot of the stump if the umpire gives it not out. There is no consistency in the system as it is

Jack I agree

clarke is very good playing spin but I can see him getting out stumped, 20-30 runs more and stumped

There is no consistency, I think it should always be 2 stumps. Marginal calls should go with the batsman.

I personally don't think u should lose the review if its clipping the stumps and the umpire gives it not out. It was in theory hitting but the umpire said no.

Fact is, we've all seen huge swing after the ball has bounced, so we can never be sure the hawkeye predicted path is anything like what really would have happened. Batsmen should not be given out for marginal calls with this technology.

He's always been good to watch playing spin, even when he was younger. His footwork getting forward and back is superb and he's always looking to score.

Then why use hawkeye if it's only 2 stumps out of 3 accurate?

Because it is accurate to within an inch or two, so howlers can be overturned.

oh here we go lol