Why wasn't this addressed in the summer and te correct aquisitions bought in of without these two players we are so weak?
That's moyes fault
comment by Stretty - #FreeShinji (U3123)
posted 17 seconds ago
Why wasn't this addressed in the summer and te correct aquisitions bought in of without these two players we are so weak?
That's moyes fault
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Not Woodward then? Or Gill for leaving the reins to someone who clear has a lack of experience?
Stretty is back
comment by Stretty - #FreeShinji (U3123)
posted 49 seconds ago
Why wasn't this addressed in the summer and te correct aquisitions bought in of without these two players we are so weak?
That's moyes fault
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Firstly it's a bit hard to predict that 3 of our best 4 players would be injured so much. Secondly Moyes did actually try to bring in a number of top CM's.
But it's not his fault Woodward messed up so often.
We would not be missing Rafael so much if Fabio was covering for him instead of Smalling/Valencia. Simple as.
I'm actually inclined to agree with Stretty here.
It's not that simple Bloodred. Moyes knows the squad much more than any of us and chooses not to play Fabio. There must be a logical reason here. One that the fans would probably agree with if Moyes or whoever sat us down and explained it.
No football manager willfully goes out to pick a side that could be improved by a certain player who isn't picked.
comment by Clever - son son son - #promoyesbrigade (U18599)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - #FreeShinji (U3123)
posted 17 seconds ago
Why wasn't this addressed in the summer and te correct aquisitions bought in of without these two players we are so weak?
That's moyes fault
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Not Woodward then? Or Gill for leaving the reins to someone who clear has a lack of experience?
Stretty is back
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Always an excuse.
Woodward was woeful but it's hardly his fault moyes earmarked ridiculous targets like fabregas and wasted about 6 weeks on him
Moron.
Kompany
Aguero
Silva
All been missing for large parts
Why does Woodward get all the criticism for the summer dealings? Genuine question, Moyes himself said the whole saga with Fellaini, suggesting he was more involved than people think, ditto with Herreira. You can only judge him on what he says happened, surely...
Robb you are forgetting one thing.
RVP getting injured is all down to Moyes and his training methods and nothing to do with luck.
Kompany
Aguero
Silva
All been missing for large parts
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Aguero has been missing for the past 3/4 games. When Kompany has been missing City have missed him a lot.
It's not that simple Bloodred. Moyes knows the squad much more than any of us and chooses not to play Fabio. There must be a logical reason here
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If there was a logical reason (which most likely has something to do with Smalling being the 'safe' option defensively), it should have been dismissed as soon as it became apparent that Smalling is not up to the job of playing full back. Which was a while ago.
The only possible reason is that Fabio's head is not in the right place for whatever reason - in which case I dont know think he'd making the bench.
Robb you are forgetting one thing.
RVP getting injured is all down to Moyes and his training methods and nothing to do with luck.
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I suppose Moyes was Arsenal coach between 2004 and 2010?
Moyes Out - booooooooooooooo!
comment by SouthLondonManc (U12028)
posted 3 minutes ago
Every team gets injuries
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Agreed and when teams lose their best players, the impact is quite a tough one, please see City and Kompany for reference.
Robb you are forgetting one thing.
RVP getting injured is all down to Moyes and his training methods and nothing to do with luck.
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I suppose Moyes was Arsenal coach between 2004 and 2010?
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What a horribly inept retort.
You should know with someone who's body isn't that resilient you can't use dinosaur methods like moyes is using.
The reason we are in seventh place is david moyes.
Can people cut the fecking sht out
Why does Woodward get all the criticism for the summer dealings? Genuine question, Moyes himself said the whole saga with Fellaini, suggesting he was more involved than people think, ditto with Herreira. You can only judge him on what he says happened, surely...
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What do you suppose happens in the process of buying a player? Sir Alex often said he told Gill what player he wanted and he let Gill deal with all that stuff.
Surely it can't be too much different with Moyes and Woodward? Moyes probably gave a list of people to Woodward and it was up to Ed to get these players.
Nah, the most important stat for where we are in the league is this one:
Premier League Starts 2013/14 - Evra: 19
comment by Robb - Australia for the 2014 World Cup. The darkest of horses. (U9808)
posted 1 minute ago
Robb you are forgetting one thing.
RVP getting injured is all down to Moyes and his training methods and nothing to do with luck.
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I suppose Moyes was Arsenal coach between 2004 and 2010?
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Moyes you naughty boy, how dare you try and hurt Robin all those years ago at Arsenal with your dinosaur methods
MuDD, for someone who allegedly works in a highly paid job, you think like a 12 year old child who doesn't have the ability to make a reasonable argument without using caveman like retorts.
Herrera was not Moyes' fault at all IMO, as has been stated many times after our failed attempt, Bilbao are a very difficult club to do transfer dealing with. Bayern knew this and gave themselves ample time to get Martinez a year before and we should have known that. The only person to blame for that is Woodward's, pure and simple, it's his job to know these things and act accordingly. Bayern took a month negotiating with Bilbao (and those same dodgy lawyers) to get Martinez, we tried to do it in a day, amateur.
We were lucky that Ferguson and Gil had such a great understanding and respect for one another. Woodward on the other hand has shown a complete lack of knowledge and understanding of how to do his job, being based in London really doesn't help things either, why can't he have his office in Carrington like Gil did where he was able to speak to Ferguson on a daily basis.
comment by He's French, He's Flash... Number One, Billy Foulkes... Number Two, Georgie Best (U9335)
posted 35 seconds ago
Nah, the most important stat for where we are in the league is this one:
Premier League Starts 2013/14 - Evra: 19
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I love Paddy but my god he has been woeful
Ideally David Gill would have stayed for one more season with Moyes before handing over to Woodward.
comment by Robb - Australia for the 2014 World Cup. The darkest of horses. (U9808)
posted 20 seconds ago
MuDD, for someone who allegedly works in a highly paid job, you think like a 12 year old child who doesn't have the ability to make a reasonable argument without using caveman like retorts.
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I work in a results oriented industry, we pay for the best and if they do not perform, they are gone.
It is always amusing you resort to insults when people do not subscribe to your BS.
The manager is responsible for the current situation we find ourselves in and the constant excuses made up for him are amusing.
comment by He's French, He's Flash... Number One, Billy Foulkes... Number Two, Georgie Best (U9335)
posted 2 minutes ago
Nah, the most important stat for where we are in the league is this one:
Premier League Starts 2013/14 - Evra: 19
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Very telling stat.
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posted on 2/1/14
Why wasn't this addressed in the summer and te correct aquisitions bought in of without these two players we are so weak?
That's moyes fault
posted on 2/1/14
comment by Stretty - #FreeShinji (U3123)
posted 17 seconds ago
Why wasn't this addressed in the summer and te correct aquisitions bought in of without these two players we are so weak?
That's moyes fault
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not Woodward then? Or Gill for leaving the reins to someone who clear has a lack of experience?
Stretty is back
posted on 2/1/14
comment by Stretty - #FreeShinji (U3123)
posted 49 seconds ago
Why wasn't this addressed in the summer and te correct aquisitions bought in of without these two players we are so weak?
That's moyes fault
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Firstly it's a bit hard to predict that 3 of our best 4 players would be injured so much. Secondly Moyes did actually try to bring in a number of top CM's.
But it's not his fault Woodward messed up so often.
posted on 2/1/14
We would not be missing Rafael so much if Fabio was covering for him instead of Smalling/Valencia. Simple as.
I'm actually inclined to agree with Stretty here.
posted on 2/1/14
It's not that simple Bloodred. Moyes knows the squad much more than any of us and chooses not to play Fabio. There must be a logical reason here. One that the fans would probably agree with if Moyes or whoever sat us down and explained it.
No football manager willfully goes out to pick a side that could be improved by a certain player who isn't picked.
posted on 2/1/14
comment by Clever - son son son - #promoyesbrigade (U18599)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - #FreeShinji (U3123)
posted 17 seconds ago
Why wasn't this addressed in the summer and te correct aquisitions bought in of without these two players we are so weak?
That's moyes fault
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Not Woodward then? Or Gill for leaving the reins to someone who clear has a lack of experience?
Stretty is back
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Always an excuse.
Woodward was woeful but it's hardly his fault moyes earmarked ridiculous targets like fabregas and wasted about 6 weeks on him
Moron.
posted on 2/1/14
Every team gets injuries
posted on 2/1/14
Kompany
Aguero
Silva
All been missing for large parts
posted on 2/1/14
Why does Woodward get all the criticism for the summer dealings? Genuine question, Moyes himself said the whole saga with Fellaini, suggesting he was more involved than people think, ditto with Herreira. You can only judge him on what he says happened, surely...
posted on 2/1/14
Robb you are forgetting one thing.
RVP getting injured is all down to Moyes and his training methods and nothing to do with luck.
posted on 2/1/14
Kompany
Aguero
Silva
All been missing for large parts
----------------------------------------------------------
Aguero has been missing for the past 3/4 games. When Kompany has been missing City have missed him a lot.
posted on 2/1/14
It's not that simple Bloodred. Moyes knows the squad much more than any of us and chooses not to play Fabio. There must be a logical reason here
_______________________
If there was a logical reason (which most likely has something to do with Smalling being the 'safe' option defensively), it should have been dismissed as soon as it became apparent that Smalling is not up to the job of playing full back. Which was a while ago.
The only possible reason is that Fabio's head is not in the right place for whatever reason - in which case I dont know think he'd making the bench.
posted on 2/1/14
Robb you are forgetting one thing.
RVP getting injured is all down to Moyes and his training methods and nothing to do with luck.
----------------------------------------------------------------
I suppose Moyes was Arsenal coach between 2004 and 2010?
posted on 2/1/14
Moyes Out - booooooooooooooo!
comment by SouthLondonManc (U12028)
posted 3 minutes ago
Every team gets injuries
-------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed and when teams lose their best players, the impact is quite a tough one, please see City and Kompany for reference.
posted on 2/1/14
Robb you are forgetting one thing.
RVP getting injured is all down to Moyes and his training methods and nothing to do with luck.
----------------------------------------------------------------
I suppose Moyes was Arsenal coach between 2004 and 2010?
-----
What a horribly inept retort.
You should know with someone who's body isn't that resilient you can't use dinosaur methods like moyes is using.
posted on 2/1/14
The reason we are in seventh place is david moyes.
Can people cut the fecking sht out
posted on 2/1/14
Why does Woodward get all the criticism for the summer dealings? Genuine question, Moyes himself said the whole saga with Fellaini, suggesting he was more involved than people think, ditto with Herreira. You can only judge him on what he says happened, surely...
----------------------------------------------------------------
What do you suppose happens in the process of buying a player? Sir Alex often said he told Gill what player he wanted and he let Gill deal with all that stuff.
Surely it can't be too much different with Moyes and Woodward? Moyes probably gave a list of people to Woodward and it was up to Ed to get these players.
posted on 2/1/14
Nah, the most important stat for where we are in the league is this one:
Premier League Starts 2013/14 - Evra: 19
posted on 2/1/14
comment by Robb - Australia for the 2014 World Cup. The darkest of horses. (U9808)
posted 1 minute ago
Robb you are forgetting one thing.
RVP getting injured is all down to Moyes and his training methods and nothing to do with luck.
----------------------------------------------------------------
I suppose Moyes was Arsenal coach between 2004 and 2010?
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Moyes you naughty boy, how dare you try and hurt Robin all those years ago at Arsenal with your dinosaur methods
posted on 2/1/14
MuDD, for someone who allegedly works in a highly paid job, you think like a 12 year old child who doesn't have the ability to make a reasonable argument without using caveman like retorts.
posted on 2/1/14
Herrera was not Moyes' fault at all IMO, as has been stated many times after our failed attempt, Bilbao are a very difficult club to do transfer dealing with. Bayern knew this and gave themselves ample time to get Martinez a year before and we should have known that. The only person to blame for that is Woodward's, pure and simple, it's his job to know these things and act accordingly. Bayern took a month negotiating with Bilbao (and those same dodgy lawyers) to get Martinez, we tried to do it in a day, amateur.
We were lucky that Ferguson and Gil had such a great understanding and respect for one another. Woodward on the other hand has shown a complete lack of knowledge and understanding of how to do his job, being based in London really doesn't help things either, why can't he have his office in Carrington like Gil did where he was able to speak to Ferguson on a daily basis.
posted on 2/1/14
comment by He's French, He's Flash... Number One, Billy Foulkes... Number Two, Georgie Best (U9335)
posted 35 seconds ago
Nah, the most important stat for where we are in the league is this one:
Premier League Starts 2013/14 - Evra: 19
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I love Paddy but my god he has been woeful
posted on 2/1/14
Ideally David Gill would have stayed for one more season with Moyes before handing over to Woodward.
posted on 2/1/14
comment by Robb - Australia for the 2014 World Cup. The darkest of horses. (U9808)
posted 20 seconds ago
MuDD, for someone who allegedly works in a highly paid job, you think like a 12 year old child who doesn't have the ability to make a reasonable argument without using caveman like retorts.
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I work in a results oriented industry, we pay for the best and if they do not perform, they are gone.
It is always amusing you resort to insults when people do not subscribe to your BS.
The manager is responsible for the current situation we find ourselves in and the constant excuses made up for him are amusing.
posted on 2/1/14
comment by He's French, He's Flash... Number One, Billy Foulkes... Number Two, Georgie Best (U9335)
posted 2 minutes ago
Nah, the most important stat for where we are in the league is this one:
Premier League Starts 2013/14 - Evra: 19
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French behave
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