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One thing we do need to do is slash overseas aid,its done nothing to help out 3rd world poverty,just nestle nicely in corrupt officials bank accounts,and fund space programmes.
We're creating our own third world here.

The European Parliament has very little power. That is true.

comment by justanotherTopperSpur (U1409)
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The trouble with the European Parliment is the laws are drawn up by unelected bureaucrats and are often voted in before they are finalised thus making them open to changes lobbied by powerful industrial groups.

Too many piggys sucking at that teat.


Get the feck out.....NOW!
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Exactly, so what's needed is legislative reform, not abandoning the project,=.

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One thing we do need to do is slash overseas aid,its done nothing to help out 3rd world poverty,just nestle nicely in corrupt officials bank accounts,and fund space programmes.
We're creating our own third world here.
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Are you suggestin that india, a country with a space programme, doesn't need our billions of pounds in aid every year?

Think of the children

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We spend £55m a day to be part of the EU. It really is a bad deal for us. The worst aspect is the open door policy on immigration. Just look at how it is affecting British workers, no apprenticeships anymore as Eastern Europeans are willing to work for apprentice money, gangs of construction workers undercutting our own tradesmen because they live in tents I the summer months, we even pay for their kids back in Poland! Graduates struggling to work, again because graduates from Europe will work for less.

Our schools and NHS are at bursting point because people are sending their kids to live here for a better education or they come here for expensive operations.

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comment by Taggs (U1183)
posted 2 minutes ago
We spend £55m a day to be part of the EU. It really is a bad deal for us. The worst aspect is the open door policy on immigration. Just look at how it is affecting British workers, no apprenticeships anymore as Eastern Europeans are willing to work for apprentice money, gangs of construction workers undercutting our own tradesmen because they live in tents I the summer months, we even pay for their kids back in Poland! Graduates struggling to work, again because graduates from Europe will work for less.

Our schools and NHS are at bursting point because people are sending their kids to live here for a better education or they come here for expensive operations.


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You've been reading the daily mail too much my friend.

The problem is we don't cleaim rebates we're elegible for. E.g the recent flooding. We could have claimed EU aid but didn't (to my knowledge).

Also as a recent graduate, the reason graduate employment is so low is because people do useless degrees and expect to find a good job afterwards. My brother is one of those people. they think having a degree makes you desirable, when it really doesn't unless it's ina good subject from a good university.

Also as a recent graduate, the reason graduate employment is so low is because people do useless degrees and expect to find a good job afterwards. My brother is one of those people. they think having a degree makes you desirable, when it really doesn't unless it's ina good subject from a good university.

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This. I graduated in 2012, and spent about 6 months looking for a job in my field, but obviously, with no experience, couldn't find anything. I was about to stop looking for IT specific work, and start doing anything I could find (I had applied for jobs such as cleaning trains, etc). And that is where a lot of people fall down, they think 'I've done a degree in x, therefore I will work in x, and wont do anything I consider beneath me, or demeaning.

Also, people tend to graduate in batches, meaning, all of the top students - i.e. those with firsts, will get the majority of the available jobs at that specific time, and everyone else has to fight for the rest.

I'd also like to point out, that there really weren't that many European students in my year (maybe 5%) So, essentially, your points are bóllocks.

Europe is a waste of time imho, we never elected them, we do elect an MEP but we hear even less about what they're upto than our local MPs, so what is the point of them?

As for the debate, I didn't watch it, 2 rich guys in suits looking like intellectual pygmies, I couldn't think of anything worse to try and give me a balanced opinion of europe.

Didn't watch it either. Garage angers me. He makes good points, but then so does nick griffin.

Jay, I recently read that 50% of graduates go into non graduate jobs the universities must be laughing all the way to the bank with these 9k fees now. I know that mine started a huge building project with the money so they can fit in even more students

Yeah same Brennie, just as I was leaving they were building a whole new complex to cram more students in.

Fortunately, I found a job in IT, but that was more down to who I know, than what I know tbh.

My cousin started uni the year after me and will come out with 3 times the debt I did. And he's doing an art degree, what the fúck is he going to do with that?

Luckily I did Chemistry, one of the two degrees (along with medicine) that actualy cost more than 9k per student per year (was only paying £3k anyway)

The average humanities student's costs are £100 per year excluding lecturer salaries.... That basically just keeping the lights on and paying for paper. ridiculous that places can charge £9k. what grates me most is that EU students going to Scotland get free studies, but englishs students have to pay £9k. We're in the same facking country

Bit of a waste, but tbh I'll never forget the day I opened my results and realised I hadn't completely fúcked it up

Thoughts?
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Nice way of slipping in a pro EU post but its awful, unsustainable & unacceptable, not your post - the EU.

Also Brennie I cant see the point of you asking people for their opinions & then responding with a dig about reading the daily mail too much we're not all naive & gullable...ahem

I know this may be a bit controversial, I workin IT, and have found alot of the graduates just lack GRAFT.

They want courses, and be spoon fed technologies, they want to just do it 9-5 and go home, and continue playing playstation.


Me, liek alot of people I work with, who have been ineth field 10+ years, used to work stuff out, learn technologies at home, build PC's ourselves, just to learn.
Sit exams upon Exams to keep up wiht the latest products.

I just find that todays youth, lack this.

Could be right there Lefty, people with no initiative, or motivation, drive me insane. I'm more than happy to stay until 7 or 8pm to get my work done (though I guess it could be argued, that if I spent less time on here, I wouldn't need to!)

I built my pc on my very first pay day, cost pretty much the entire month's pay, but worth every penny....

Until it nearly killed me!

Jay - just find h=that that type of attitude is decreasing.

I remember staying behind for 3-4 hours just to play around with the Citrix servers, and learn stuff...breaking it alot of the time, then googling like mad to fix it before the night shift started.

Also find that alo of grads understand how to carry out tasks, as they ahve been told click on this\click on that..

but struggle when you lift the hood up to find out hos technoloiges actually work.

There is, still today, and has been for quiet some time, a shortage of IT skills in the UK