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posted on 21/6/14

n six

did i say i disagreed -- you want to believe it flexed that is up to you -

i just believe it was not doing anything that that rival teams wings were not doing

posted on 21/6/14

MA, you just asked and answered your own question in one sentence.
Q. did i say i disagreed - presumably with the simple statement that the RBR wing flexed.
A. you want to believe it flexed that is up to you - so you are saying 'yes I disagree with that statement, but if you (n6 and the rest of the world) want to believe it you can't
Am I right in my interpretation of that sentence?

posted on 21/6/14

but if you (n6 and the rest of the world) want to believe it you can' even

posted on 21/6/14

go cell

you will have to run that one by me again gc -
--------------------preferably in a lanquage that does not resemble swahili --

posted on 21/6/14

Now that MA is taking the P.

So run it by me, what bits didn't you understand? Were they by any chance the bits you wrote, ie "did i say i disagreed -- you want to believe it flexed that is up to you" because all I did was split that into two halves and gave an interpretation of both.

Maybe you can't understand your own writing, now that would explain a lot to me and probably the other 'bruvvers' on here.

You are right the way you write is not good English, but the bit I added was just fine sport.

If are referring to the second of those posts, it was a correction of the last sentence of the previous post, which ended with can't instead of can'. My 'not so smart phone' kindly added a t which I missed before posting.

posted on 21/6/14

Not only are you showing yourself up to be a bit of a fool MA, but an uneducated fool as well.

As I have said in a previous post you need to concentrate harder at school so that you can understand what you are being told.

For future reference, would you like myself and others to use non-technical words i notice of no more than two syllables to help your understanding.

I did notice too though how you changed the subject yet again to avoid answering the question.

Do you agree that the RBR wings flexed?

A simple question which only needs a single word answer. YES or NO.

Which is it going to be?

posted on 21/6/14

So English forums were unhappy redbull was winning so that is why you defend their wings were flexing? What a ridiculous argument, should I tell you why? Newey is English, Horner is English, RedBull are. Based in Milton Keynes, England and for all intents and purposes are an English team with austrian backing.

Since we are being silly here, it appears you have problems with English people. Are you bigotted or racist? Is that why Hamilton was nothing but a little black boy?

My good man, you have serious issues. In sport no one likkes a cheat which is why people were up in arms about the wings flexing all over the world. Not just the English. You will also notice that Seb was booed all over the world last year, I guess English people travelled to all the races and organised the boos.

It is unfortunate that you are unable to see data in front of you and continue to argue against facts.

That is a stupid approach to life.

posted on 21/6/14

MA, after MUDDs comments above I have scrolled back through some of this thread, and I am frankly shocked.
You call on poster a "retar/ted geriatric baboon".

You called another a "Prikk" and for ages refused to accept you had done so.

You referred to a YouTube contributer as a "retar/ted chimp with one eye". By the way there was more than one clip on YouTube and some clips on other websites including the BBC, so maybe they also fit your description.

You then implied the majority of this board "suffer from patriotic vegetable syndrome" What is that by the way? If you don't like the views of an English F1 Forum, why bother posting on it?

You then accuse me of writing in "in a lanquage that resembles Swahili". Personally I wouldn't know Swahili if I saw it, but I assume you do, so can you point out which part of the post you referred to resembled anything other than English, and in particular the bit that resembled Swahili?

Oh and while you are at it;
The RBR Wing, did it flex? Simple question (in English), single word answer required.
YES or NO?

Now in Swahili, (courtesy of Google Translate)
RBR Wing, alifanya hivyo kuimarisha? Rahisi swali, neno jibu moja inahitajika.
YES au NO?

posted on 21/6/14

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 16 hours, 17 minutes ago
Now that MA is taking the P.

So run it by me, what bits didn't you understand? Were they by any chance the bits you wrote, ie "did i say i disagreed -- you want to believe it flexed that is up to you" because all I did was split that into two halves and gave an interpretation of both.

Maybe you can't understand your own writing, now that would explain a lot to me and probably the other 'bruvvers' on here.

You are right the way you write is not good English, but the bit I added was just fine sport.

If are referring to the second of those posts, it was a correction of the last sentence of the previous post, which ended with can't instead of can'. My 'not so smart phone' kindly added a t which I missed before posting.
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sorry that is still swahili gc
---------- -- have a go in a lanquage that i can fathom out without it giving me a flucking headache trying to decipher it

posted on 21/6/14

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 16 hours, 12 minutes ago
Not only are you showing yourself up to be a bit of a fool MA, but an uneducated fool as well.

As I have said in a previous post you need to concentrate harder at school so that you can understand what you are being told.

For future reference, would you like myself and others to use non-technical words i notice of no more than two syllables to help your understanding.

I did notice too though how you changed the subject yet again to avoid answering the question.

Do you agree that the RBR wings flexed?

A simple question which only needs a single word answer. YES or NO.

Which is it going to be?


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dear dear me gc --

why the silly insults because my opinion on something as harmless as red bull wing differs from yours -
----- do you come on here drunk every night or are you just naturally rude and pig ignorant

what dont you actually understand about the multiple reply"s i have given about my opinion of the red bull wing ---- it is not as i am trying to explain rocket science after all

posted on 22/6/14

Don't drink enough to get drunk sport.
As for insults you are the one who insults 'bruvvers' and appear to have racist views.
And then you call me pig ignorant.
How dare YOU of all people call anyone pig ignorant?

And as for someone not understanding multiple replies, you get multiple replies from multiple posters, all in agreement with each other and you still cannot understand.

And you still haven't answered mine or n6's simple question.

The RBR wing, did it flex YES or NO?

posted on 22/6/14

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 hours, 33 minutes ago
So English forums were unhappy redbull was winning so that is why you defend their wings were flexing? What a ridiculous argument, should I tell you why? Newey is English, Horner is English, RedBull are. Based in Milton Keynes, England and for all intents and purposes are an English team with austrian backing.

Since we are being silly here, it appears you have problems with English people. Are you bigotted or racist? Is that why Hamilton was nothing but a little black boy?

My good man, you have serious issues. In sport no one likkes a cheat which is why people were up in arms about the wings flexing all over the world. Not just the English. You will also notice that Seb was booed all over the world last year, I guess English people travelled to all the races and organised the boos.

It is unfortunate that you are unable to see data in front of you and continue to argue against facts.

That is a stupid approach to life.
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you need to read what i say a little more carefully manx and look at the wider picture like i do mate -- the point i was making is that any rival team or rival foreign driver that is doing alot of the winning would seem to attract alot of exaggerated criticism on certain F1 forums -

we all saw it on the bbc 606 , it is at times obvious on here and on other forums i have visited and from my experience some people will post things that to me seem exaggerated and ferrari and alonso on bbc 606 was one example and vettel and red bull to a certain extent are another on here -

as for the rest of your rubbish that is not even worth a responce and quite frankly i would of expected something a little more adult from a guy of your age -

i am not sure why my harmless opinion about a red bull wing has got you so bent out of shape manx
-- it is only my opinion on a internet forum and if it gets you so bent out of shape then maybe you have to look at yourself as to why another forum member"s harmless opinion about such a trivial insignificant thing as a formula 1 car wing has got you so bent out of shape

posted on 22/6/14

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
Don't drink enough to get drunk sport.
As for insults you are the one who insults 'bruvvers' and appear to have racist views.
And then you call me pig ignorant.
How dare YOU of all people call anyone pig ignorant?

And as for someone not understanding multiple replies, you get multiple replies from multiple posters, all in agreement with each other and you still cannot understand.

And you still haven't answered mine or n6's simple question.

The RBR wing, did it flex YES or NO?


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sorry i think you do drink of an evening when you come on here because your rudeness and insults and racist suggestions are totally unprovoked by myself and is not something most rational people on a chat forum would do and quite frankly i would of thought a man of your age would have be capable of showing a little more dignity --

however ----------- how many times do you want to me to repeat my understanding of the red bull wing and i dont believe it was behaving any differently than the rival teams front wings at the time


posted on 22/6/14

MA,

You are incapable of stringing a coherent argument together.

You cannot see front wings that are clearly visible.

You say the wings are bouncing not bending, which in itself is a contradiction as you cannot see them.

You call people amongst other things PRIKK, geriatric and re/tard.

You continually use the term 'for flucks sake' which indicates either a lack of education, or is a tell tale sign that you know you are wrong but will do you're utmost not to admit it.

You change the subject, as now, to avoid answering the question asked of you.

You accuse people of racist suggestions, yet you are the one who talks about the English and patriotism, then implied that the, presumably English, posters on this site are patriotic vegetables.

You know nothing about me so stop accusing me of coming on here drunk. That is yet another insult as I very rarely drink.

All the above are signs of someone who DOES come on here drunk, or stoned. And in an attempt to hide the fact accuses others of being inebriated.

posted on 22/6/14

MA,
Let me remind you of what you said on the "Lover's tiff" thread.
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as for the silly name calling that you started anyway -- that is exactly my point , it is pathetic for two grown adults to bicker like this and will eventually turn people away from the forum
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Notice I stopped responding to you on that thread, but since you wrote that YOU have continued to throw insults at me and others.

I've been checking on you and the 'name calling' issue to see just who starts it...... interesting so far looking back over previous threads.

posted on 22/6/14

So now I've given you time to cool off Martial lets try and finally get a answer for the simple question.



So you ARE disagreeing with my argument that the Red Bull wing flexed?

That is all I argued nothing else. I didn't claim it was illegal, I didn't claim others didn't flex, I simply argued that the Red Bulls did flex.


Just to be sure before we move on here. You still say that the Red Bull wing wasn't flexing? That and that alone, that stand out comment, no ifs or buts attached to said comment?


Don't tell me you've answered before, don't answer a different question. Just answer what I've asked please

posted on 22/6/14

N6

You know what the answer will be. A full copy and paste job of your post followed by:

---- you believe it flexed thats fair enough , i just believe it was not doing anything that the rival wings were not doing -

So predictable, and still not answering the question.

posted on 22/6/14

And I have just noticed after all this time the double negative in that statement.

posted on 22/6/14

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
MA,

You are incapable of stringing a coherent argument together.

You cannot see front wings that are clearly visible.

You say the wings are bouncing not bending, which in itself is a contradiction as you cannot see them.

You call people amongst other things PRIKK, geriatric and re/tard.

You continually use the term 'for flucks sake' which indicates either a lack of education, or is a tell tale sign that you know you are wrong but will do you're utmost not to admit it.

You change the subject, as now, to avoid answering the question asked of you.

You accuse people of racist suggestions, yet you are the one who talks about the English and patriotism, then implied that the, presumably English, posters on this site are patriotic vegetables.

You know nothing about me so stop accusing me of coming on here drunk. That is yet another insult as I very rarely drink.

All the above are signs of someone who DOES come on here drunk, or stoned. And in an attempt to hide the fact accuses others of being inebriated.
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what dont you actually understand when i have repeatedly stated multiple times to various people on this thread that i believe the red bull wing was not doing anything that the other rival wings were not doing --
is it really that hard to understand it when i have repeated it so many times on here -
----- how many more times to you wish me to repeat my harmless opinion until it finally sinks in so you dont keep asking me parrot fashion the same banal questions -

come to think of it you personally have never shown me anything to change my opinion on the initial red bull wing subject so how do you reasonably expect me to change my opinion when you dont have a convincing argument in the first place -

as for the rest of your rubbish when you stop with the insults and pathetic innuendo you will get the same respect back from me -- treat people on here exactly as they treat me -
------ savvy

posted on 22/6/14

I was the first to start this subject and I was the first yo post a video. I have also described in detail the layout of the car that you can see in the video, or have you conveniently forgotten that? Just read through the thread, page by page and you will see.

posted on 22/6/14

comment by N_six0six (U13776)
posted 5 hours, 34 minutes ago
So now I've given you time to cool off Martial lets try and finally get a answer for the simple question.



So you ARE disagreeing with my argument that the Red Bull wing flexed?

That is all I argued nothing else. I didn't claim it was illegal, I didn't claim others didn't flex, I simply argued that the Red Bulls did flex.


Just to be sure before we move on here. You still say that the Red Bull wing wasn't flexing? That and that alone, that stand out comment, no ifs or buts attached to said comment?


Don't tell me you've answered before, don't answer a different question. Just answer what I've asked please
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dear dear me are you still asking me the same question that i have answered 50 times before -
what exactly is it that has bent you all out shape about my reply"s on the subject that i need to repeat myself like a demented parrot with an answering machine stuck up its anatomy --

however -------------just to clarify again for the 51st time --- how do any of any of us know the exact behaviour of any of the wings at the time and just to again repeat myself for the 51st time -
---- i dont believe the red bull wing was doing anything that the other rival"s wings were not doing --

------ suprise me and ask me the same question again

posted on 22/6/14

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
I was the first to start this subject and I was the first yo post a video. I have also described in detail the layout of the car that you can see in the video, or have you conveniently forgotten that? Just read through the thread, page by page and you will see.
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yeh i saw it and i dont agree with the credibility of the video hence why we have a difference of opinions

posted on 22/6/14

Martial, if that was your 51st answer I'm shocked that after 51 attempts you still haven't grasped the simple fact that you are not answering a simple question.

Because I am nice I will spell it out for you.

Was the Red Bull wing flexing, YES or NO?

Any word other than yes or no does not answer the question Martial, thats all I'm asking.

because that is all I argued nothing else. I didn't claim it was illegal, I didn't claim others didn't flex, I simply argued that the Red Bulls did flex.

posted on 22/6/14

MA, you said...

"come to think of it you personally have never shown me anything to change my opinion on the initial red bull wing subject so how do you reasonably expect me to change my opinion when you dont have a convincing argument in the first place -"

Yet by your last statement you agree I did provide evidence.

So yet again you change your story in a vain attempt to 'win the argument' and tell lies. When you are found out you rarely apologise for the lies.

I eagerly await your apologies for accusing me of being drunk, and for lying. This is no longer is anything to do with a difference of opinion.

posted on 22/6/14

comment by N_six0six (U13776)
posted 55 minutes ago
Martial, if that was your 51st answer I'm shocked that after 51 attempts you still haven't grasped the simple fact that you are not answering a simple question.

Because I am nice I will spell it out for you.

Was the Red Bull wing flexing, YES or NO?

Any word other than yes or no does not answer the question Martial, thats all I'm asking.

because that is all I argued nothing else. I didn't claim it was illegal, I didn't claim others didn't flex, I simply argued that the Red Bulls did flex.

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fluck me --- make that the 52nd time you have asked me the same monotone parrot question -
---- suprise me and go for no 53 because you cant think of anything else to say

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