You can be understanding to a point, but you can't baby him all the time. No matter how much progress he looks to make after this he will still have it in him to do it again for no reason.
Simple fact is it should be down to him to sort out his issues, not Fifa or the FA. They should be dishing out the punishments the give him the reason to sort out his behaviour.
RoberTncUSA
“1-match ban at worst”
Given his previous bans for biting were 7 games (Ajax) and 10 (Liverpool) not sure that a third offence will warrant a one game ban as you have suggested.
“at worst”
It all depends what you deem to be acceptable behaviour?
Society and in particular the regulations that govern football, deem biting another human being to be unacceptable and abhorrent conduct.
If you feel different, so be it – each to their own.
Its just a case of setting the bar to the same level across all levels of football. In this instance, the continuity is something that can and should happen.
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 3 minutes ago
suarez is the victim here
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Finally someone who sees the sense.
It all depends what you deem to be acceptable behaviour?
Society and in particular the regulations that govern football, deem biting another human being to be unacceptable and abhorrent conduct.
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I think the offence is defined by FIFA rules and the punishment prescribed. If this is so then it doesn't matter what society thinks. Rules are rules.
Yeh Arsenal did dodge a huge bullet. Suarez is bent on self destruction and will have massive discipline issues his whole career which shackles his value massively.
They got Ozil too, who is total class. Hilarious that the english media/fans are saying Ozil is bad. He clearly is totally world class. It is hard to come into a league and dominate. And ozil played well for arsenal despite their shocking team with a slow striker like Giroud.
The lack of intelligence in the media/fans is the reason england havent made a major final in 50 years.
dodge a bullet my hairy old falice!
Suarez would have won arsenal the prem!
FACT
giroud never performs vs the big teams
The lack of intelligence in the media/fans is the reason england havent made a major final in 50 years.
=========================================================
Please can you employ your superior intelligence to explain to me how lack of intelligence in the media/fans would stop any national team from reaching a major final?
While you’re at it, can you post a link to a media story that says Ozil is bad?
Finally, just out of curiosity, may I ask if you are from a more intelligent planet, or just a more intelligent nation?
Cheers in advance
Red Mamba
My reasoning was that football misconduct is largely defined by what society deems acceptable - or not.
I understand spitting (under Fifa regs) carries a minimum six match, and would therefore presume that biting someone would be considerably more – even if his previous club misconduct is not considered.
"Society and in particular the regulations that govern football, deem biting another human being to be unacceptable and abhorrent conduct."
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and YET the wound's likely healed, compared to the damage of body checks to the knees or elbows to the faces, or shilling for a bogus iraq dossier to sell a war that kills 100s of thousands of people
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
Red Mamba
My reasoning was that football misconduct is largely defined by what society deems acceptable - or not.
I understand spitting (under Fifa regs) carries a minimum six match, and would therefore presume that biting someone would be considerably more – even if his previous club misconduct is not considered.
====================================
The offenses are defined. What is to be determined is within which definition a certain offense falls so as to determine the punishment to be meted out. The punishment they can give is limited by the rules. They wont dare touch his registration. Not even likely IMO
RoberTncUSA
Not sure how you can compare a war to this incident…
However the “damage” inflicted to Chiellini will not determine the length of Suarez’s ban, nor the reason why most rational people feel his actions were detestable.
The lack of intelligence in the media/fans is the reason england havent made a major final in 50 years.
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comment by RoberTncUSA **PS4 or XBOX_ONE?** (U3493)
posted 24 minutes ago
"Society and in particular the regulations that govern football, deem biting another human being to be unacceptable and abhorrent conduct."
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and YET the wound's likely healed, compared to the damage of body checks to the knees or elbows to the faces, or shilling for a bogus iraq dossier to sell a war that kills 100s of thousands of people
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Punishments are not dealt out based on severity of outcome.
You could put in a decent challenge which the opposition player gets badly hurt from; eqaually you get reckless and voilent conduct which players just get up from.
comment by Moistthighs (U3249)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
FIA govern the game, they can ban him from competitive football for life if they deem it necessary.
-=-=-=-=-
I'm aware of that, I was posing a question... Of course FIFA can within reason do whatever they want. But to ban him domestically isn't just punishing the player, but a club who pay a lot of money for his services. I just can see it being a realistic avenue of punishment.
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For me, he should have the book thrown at him from an international perspective, with a probationary period in place in which he must also seek and attend mental assistance.
If he bites somebody (or indents to physically assault somebody) again with that period, it's goodbye for a long time.
And this is for all competitions imo,
comment by peni_revenge (U9253)
posted 48 minutes ago
dodge a bullet my hairy old falice!
Suarez would have won arsenal the prem!
FACT
giroud never performs vs the big teams
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That made me laugh out loud btw.
The lack of intelligence in the media/fans is the reason england havent made a major final in 50 years.
____________________________________________
And there's me thinking its cause we are crap at penalties
Punishments are not dealt out based on severity of outcome.
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nope - they're dealt out by faux outrage hysteria from soccer pundits and internet soccer nerds
RoberTncUSA
Are you on drugs?
"More like dodged a trophy."
How can Liverpool fans seriously come up with this seeing as Arsenal won a trophy and their teams finished potless?
Boggles the mind.
I remember one Liverpool fan saying he'd "take a season without a trophy" if it meant securing a CL place. Because they've won so much lately.
They're basically doing what they used to accuse Arsenal of.
Top 4 trophy.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 21 hours, 55 minutes ago
RoberTncUSA
Are you on drugs?
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don't make me bite you son
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posted on 25/6/14
You can be understanding to a point, but you can't baby him all the time. No matter how much progress he looks to make after this he will still have it in him to do it again for no reason.
Simple fact is it should be down to him to sort out his issues, not Fifa or the FA. They should be dishing out the punishments the give him the reason to sort out his behaviour.
posted on 25/6/14
RoberTncUSA
“1-match ban at worst”
Given his previous bans for biting were 7 games (Ajax) and 10 (Liverpool) not sure that a third offence will warrant a one game ban as you have suggested.
“at worst”
It all depends what you deem to be acceptable behaviour?
Society and in particular the regulations that govern football, deem biting another human being to be unacceptable and abhorrent conduct.
If you feel different, so be it – each to their own.
posted on 25/6/14
Its just a case of setting the bar to the same level across all levels of football. In this instance, the continuity is something that can and should happen.
posted on 25/6/14
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 3 minutes ago
suarez is the victim here
===============
Finally someone who sees the sense.
posted on 25/6/14
It all depends what you deem to be acceptable behaviour?
Society and in particular the regulations that govern football, deem biting another human being to be unacceptable and abhorrent conduct.
=================
I think the offence is defined by FIFA rules and the punishment prescribed. If this is so then it doesn't matter what society thinks. Rules are rules.
posted on 25/6/14
Yeh Arsenal did dodge a huge bullet. Suarez is bent on self destruction and will have massive discipline issues his whole career which shackles his value massively.
They got Ozil too, who is total class. Hilarious that the english media/fans are saying Ozil is bad. He clearly is totally world class. It is hard to come into a league and dominate. And ozil played well for arsenal despite their shocking team with a slow striker like Giroud.
The lack of intelligence in the media/fans is the reason england havent made a major final in 50 years.
posted on 25/6/14
dodge a bullet my hairy old falice!
Suarez would have won arsenal the prem!
FACT
giroud never performs vs the big teams
posted on 25/6/14
The lack of intelligence in the media/fans is the reason england havent made a major final in 50 years.
=========================================================
Please can you employ your superior intelligence to explain to me how lack of intelligence in the media/fans would stop any national team from reaching a major final?
While you’re at it, can you post a link to a media story that says Ozil is bad?
Finally, just out of curiosity, may I ask if you are from a more intelligent planet, or just a more intelligent nation?
Cheers in advance
posted on 25/6/14
Red Mamba
My reasoning was that football misconduct is largely defined by what society deems acceptable - or not.
I understand spitting (under Fifa regs) carries a minimum six match, and would therefore presume that biting someone would be considerably more – even if his previous club misconduct is not considered.
posted on 25/6/14
"Society and in particular the regulations that govern football, deem biting another human being to be unacceptable and abhorrent conduct."
------------
and YET the wound's likely healed, compared to the damage of body checks to the knees or elbows to the faces, or shilling for a bogus iraq dossier to sell a war that kills 100s of thousands of people
posted on 25/6/14
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
Red Mamba
My reasoning was that football misconduct is largely defined by what society deems acceptable - or not.
I understand spitting (under Fifa regs) carries a minimum six match, and would therefore presume that biting someone would be considerably more – even if his previous club misconduct is not considered.
====================================
The offenses are defined. What is to be determined is within which definition a certain offense falls so as to determine the punishment to be meted out. The punishment they can give is limited by the rules. They wont dare touch his registration. Not even likely IMO
posted on 25/6/14
RoberTncUSA
Not sure how you can compare a war to this incident…
However the “damage” inflicted to Chiellini will not determine the length of Suarez’s ban, nor the reason why most rational people feel his actions were detestable.
posted on 25/6/14
The lack of intelligence in the media/fans is the reason england havent made a major final in 50 years.
---
posted on 25/6/14
comment by RoberTncUSA **PS4 or XBOX_ONE?** (U3493)
posted 24 minutes ago
"Society and in particular the regulations that govern football, deem biting another human being to be unacceptable and abhorrent conduct."
------------
and YET the wound's likely healed, compared to the damage of body checks to the knees or elbows to the faces, or shilling for a bogus iraq dossier to sell a war that kills 100s of thousands of people
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Punishments are not dealt out based on severity of outcome.
You could put in a decent challenge which the opposition player gets badly hurt from; eqaually you get reckless and voilent conduct which players just get up from.
posted on 25/6/14
comment by Moistthighs (U3249)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
FIA govern the game, they can ban him from competitive football for life if they deem it necessary.
-=-=-=-=-
I'm aware of that, I was posing a question... Of course FIFA can within reason do whatever they want. But to ban him domestically isn't just punishing the player, but a club who pay a lot of money for his services. I just can see it being a realistic avenue of punishment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For me, he should have the book thrown at him from an international perspective, with a probationary period in place in which he must also seek and attend mental assistance.
If he bites somebody (or indents to physically assault somebody) again with that period, it's goodbye for a long time.
And this is for all competitions imo,
posted on 25/6/14
comment by peni_revenge (U9253)
posted 48 minutes ago
dodge a bullet my hairy old falice!
Suarez would have won arsenal the prem!
FACT
giroud never performs vs the big teams
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That made me laugh out loud btw.
posted on 25/6/14
The lack of intelligence in the media/fans is the reason england havent made a major final in 50 years.
____________________________________________
And there's me thinking its cause we are crap at penalties
posted on 25/6/14
Punishments are not dealt out based on severity of outcome.
---------------------------
nope - they're dealt out by faux outrage hysteria from soccer pundits and internet soccer nerds
posted on 25/6/14
RoberTncUSA
Are you on drugs?
posted on 25/6/14
"More like dodged a trophy."
How can Liverpool fans seriously come up with this seeing as Arsenal won a trophy and their teams finished potless?
Boggles the mind.
posted on 25/6/14
I remember one Liverpool fan saying he'd "take a season without a trophy" if it meant securing a CL place. Because they've won so much lately.
posted on 25/6/14
They're basically doing what they used to accuse Arsenal of.
Top 4 trophy.
posted on 26/6/14
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 21 hours, 55 minutes ago
RoberTncUSA
Are you on drugs?
--------------------
don't make me bite you son
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