"what is with people against muslims"
Dunno. Some people just have to hate someone, I've largely given up on the human race - I'm waiting for the next bus then I'm out of here.
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It really is a case of a few rotten apples spoiling the barrel though, on both sides. It's all so tiresome.
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"what is with people against muslims"
probably because it's the only religion hell bent on global domination at present that beheads people who aren't Muslim and blows up innocent people in the name of 'god' on a regular basis.
There are over a billion absolutely brilliant Muslims and it's a beautiful religion (aren't they all though).
Your organised 'leadership' just seem to have a very active global agenda to make Islam the centre of government and remove freedom of religion, democracy, and equal rights for men and women.
From the outside, it just seems a bit stoneage-ish. There are fundamentalist nutjobs in the other religions too but it is tempered by a majority of more modern centrists.
my 2p
Whether people want to believe it or not, the media does influence minds.. and its little things like changing the wording around of a news headline that can make peoples minds up for them. 'Muslim terrorist finally captured and killed' or 'Israeli soldier kidnapped and murdered in cold blood'. Small thing but you can see how the two headlines vary. Im not one for believing there's this big anti muslim conspiracy going on. I do belive though that sometimes muslims are portrayed unnecessarily in a bad light. Whether its done knowingly or not, it still happens.
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Galv
HC has the right idea.. " I've largely given up on the human race - I'm waiting for the next bus then I'm out of here."
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In the grand scheme of things "There are over a billion absolutely brilliant Muslims and it's a beautiful religion"
is the most important thing.
The other stuff is more of a macro issue that plays out over time and doesn't really impact us on a day to day basis.
why can't poeple mind their own business especially uk and usa
right now on radio there is talks going about uk sending troops back to afghanistan
doubsle standards
I'm not seeing the double standards
the uk would only go back because violence escalated and stability is at risk. we wouldn't be going to to suppress freedoms or force any religion on anyone.
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm not seeing the double standards
the uk would only go back because violence escalated and stability is at risk. we wouldn't be going to to suppress freedoms or force any religion on anyone.
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why you going any where afghanistan is not your country so why act like you care. oh ok im sure you going to kill terrorist but instead kill inncocent and rape women.
or unless if uk have found some new resources which they could take
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erm, neither we nor the US took any resources the last time we went over.
the agenda of the west is a macroeconomic one based on stable democracies. there is an agenda and it's money (not religion) based.
stable democracies are brilliant trading partners and keeps the prices of traded goods in check.
It's not blind altruism, but never in a million years is it conquering and pillaging. End violence, make sure elections are free and fair and ideally lead to a stable government.
Then get the f^&k out.
That's the game plan.
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"None of their business "
why not
if a country is collapsing and people are dying/being oppressed, who's business is it to stop it?
IMO if anything, there isn't enough intervention especially in places like Africa where it's desperately needed.
The US and UK have been responsible for many civiklian deaths when they went into Afghanistan and Iraq
You're right. Why don't they go running into Zimbabwe?
"Why don't they go running into Zimbabwe?"
they really should in principle
cost/benefit didn't add up I guess
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comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
It's not blind altruism, but never in a million years is it conquering and pillaging. End violence, make sure elections are free and fair and ideally lead to a stable government.
why can't the same be done at gaza? you mind answering that question
"The rest of the world combined maybe? Or..a union of nations...say...the United Nations."
PSML
that organisation is a toothless, non-committal farce
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I do not have hatred for any specific religious group. But, I am sick of religious groups having organised agenda for killing innocent people in thousands because of 'perceived' injustice.
A member of Group B says something that is 'perceived' as offensive by members of Group A. Immediately, Group A fanatics organise themselves up on orders of their group leader and start killing members that belongs Groups B, C, D, E, ....X, Y, and Z.
It doesn't take much to offend the Group A cult. They are offended by a cartoon, they are offended when they give their pet dog an affectionate name. They are offended even a member of their own cult writes a book questioning their cult beliefs.
If Group A feels slighted by a comment made by Group B, then please deal with it directly with Group B. If you start killing people that belong to Groups C, D, E,...X,Y, and Z, then you are not liked by most people.
When Group C shows its generosity and allows Group A to live with them in their community, it is ungrateful of Group A members to organise themselves to plot against the kind Group C people. There will be resentment, if not hatred, for Group C against Group A.
Benayoun is a Disgrace
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posted on 4/8/14
"what is with people against muslims"
Dunno. Some people just have to hate someone, I've largely given up on the human race - I'm waiting for the next bus then I'm out of here.
posted on 4/8/14
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posted on 4/8/14
It really is a case of a few rotten apples spoiling the barrel though, on both sides. It's all so tiresome.
posted on 4/8/14
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posted on 4/8/14
"what is with people against muslims"
probably because it's the only religion hell bent on global domination at present that beheads people who aren't Muslim and blows up innocent people in the name of 'god' on a regular basis.
There are over a billion absolutely brilliant Muslims and it's a beautiful religion (aren't they all though).
Your organised 'leadership' just seem to have a very active global agenda to make Islam the centre of government and remove freedom of religion, democracy, and equal rights for men and women.
From the outside, it just seems a bit stoneage-ish. There are fundamentalist nutjobs in the other religions too but it is tempered by a majority of more modern centrists.
my 2p
posted on 4/8/14
Whether people want to believe it or not, the media does influence minds.. and its little things like changing the wording around of a news headline that can make peoples minds up for them. 'Muslim terrorist finally captured and killed' or 'Israeli soldier kidnapped and murdered in cold blood'. Small thing but you can see how the two headlines vary. Im not one for believing there's this big anti muslim conspiracy going on. I do belive though that sometimes muslims are portrayed unnecessarily in a bad light. Whether its done knowingly or not, it still happens.
posted on 4/8/14
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posted on 4/8/14
Galv
HC has the right idea.. " I've largely given up on the human race - I'm waiting for the next bus then I'm out of here."
posted on 4/8/14
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posted on 4/8/14
In the grand scheme of things "There are over a billion absolutely brilliant Muslims and it's a beautiful religion"
is the most important thing.
The other stuff is more of a macro issue that plays out over time and doesn't really impact us on a day to day basis.
posted on 4/8/14
why can't poeple mind their own business especially uk and usa
right now on radio there is talks going about uk sending troops back to afghanistan
doubsle standards
posted on 4/8/14
I'm not seeing the double standards
the uk would only go back because violence escalated and stability is at risk. we wouldn't be going to to suppress freedoms or force any religion on anyone.
posted on 4/8/14
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm not seeing the double standards
the uk would only go back because violence escalated and stability is at risk. we wouldn't be going to to suppress freedoms or force any religion on anyone.
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why you going any where afghanistan is not your country so why act like you care. oh ok im sure you going to kill terrorist but instead kill inncocent and rape women.
or unless if uk have found some new resources which they could take
posted on 4/8/14
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posted on 4/8/14
erm, neither we nor the US took any resources the last time we went over.
the agenda of the west is a macroeconomic one based on stable democracies. there is an agenda and it's money (not religion) based.
stable democracies are brilliant trading partners and keeps the prices of traded goods in check.
It's not blind altruism, but never in a million years is it conquering and pillaging. End violence, make sure elections are free and fair and ideally lead to a stable government.
Then get the f^&k out.
That's the game plan.
posted on 4/8/14
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posted on 4/8/14
"None of their business "
why not
if a country is collapsing and people are dying/being oppressed, who's business is it to stop it?
IMO if anything, there isn't enough intervention especially in places like Africa where it's desperately needed.
posted on 4/8/14
The US and UK have been responsible for many civiklian deaths when they went into Afghanistan and Iraq
You're right. Why don't they go running into Zimbabwe?
posted on 4/8/14
"Why don't they go running into Zimbabwe?"
they really should in principle
cost/benefit didn't add up I guess
posted on 4/8/14
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posted on 4/8/14
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
It's not blind altruism, but never in a million years is it conquering and pillaging. End violence, make sure elections are free and fair and ideally lead to a stable government.
why can't the same be done at gaza? you mind answering that question
posted on 4/8/14
"The rest of the world combined maybe? Or..a union of nations...say...the United Nations."
PSML
that organisation is a toothless, non-committal farce
posted on 4/8/14
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posted on 4/8/14
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posted on 4/8/14
I do not have hatred for any specific religious group. But, I am sick of religious groups having organised agenda for killing innocent people in thousands because of 'perceived' injustice.
A member of Group B says something that is 'perceived' as offensive by members of Group A. Immediately, Group A fanatics organise themselves up on orders of their group leader and start killing members that belongs Groups B, C, D, E, ....X, Y, and Z.
It doesn't take much to offend the Group A cult. They are offended by a cartoon, they are offended when they give their pet dog an affectionate name. They are offended even a member of their own cult writes a book questioning their cult beliefs.
If Group A feels slighted by a comment made by Group B, then please deal with it directly with Group B. If you start killing people that belong to Groups C, D, E,...X,Y, and Z, then you are not liked by most people.
When Group C shows its generosity and allows Group A to live with them in their community, it is ungrateful of Group A members to organise themselves to plot against the kind Group C people. There will be resentment, if not hatred, for Group C against Group A.
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