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Direct question, what stops Israel from implementing the Oslo accords?
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The players on both sides are different.A new plan is the only way forward.
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The Oslo accords were signed, and agreed. Why not implement those?
Nothing to do with different players it's the players, Israelis and Palestinians. Again what stops Israel from adopting these accords once more? They have the power to do so.
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
The Accord was in 93 Rabin was killed in 95.That was why I said it was never agreed.Perhaps I should have said never implemented but it was failing before Rabin was shot.
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The accord was in 93, and was being implemented, it was a road map to peace. Rabin was assassinated in 95 due to that agreement.
If there was no agreement and no implementation there would have been no need for the right wing israeli's to assassinate their president.
Again.. what stops Israel from adopting these accords once more?
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Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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Whereas this is one of the most realistic.
Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media, listen to what the actual people involved say. I have heard Hamas people say they will never give up while any Israeli lives anywhere in the world and Israelis say they will do whatever it takes to defend their people and will not give up while they still live. I have never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all Muslims. That is ultimately the problem here and you have to decide what is worse, the complete genocide of a people or defending themselves even at the expense of innocent civilian lives. I know what I think.
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And the longer it goes on, the expansion grows. It's now even more difficult than ever..
Just want to point out that while I see Hamas as the aggressors I do think that the Jewish settlements in the West Bank are wrong and should never have been allowed. However, they are a mix of people who lived there before the new Palestine was established which is understandable to want to retain their home and of extremists who do not want to give up the land to create a Palestine which is not acceptable imo.
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 21 seconds ago
The Talmudic Ashkenazis and Khazars should go back to Europe, it's a European problem thrown onto the indigenous population in Palestine
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Not going to happen though is it.
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Unfortunately no
Most of the people aren't even semetic that came to Israel, they spoke Yiddish not Hebrew,Arabic or Aramaic and are of European descent
Another case of Europeans taking land by force and slaughtering the indigenous people of the region
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probably the most ridiculous statement on this thread.
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If you say so, the people are not semetic, just go ask some indigenous Jews from Israel
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
The Accord was in 93 Rabin was killed in 95.That was why I said it was never agreed.Perhaps I should have said never implemented but it was failing before Rabin was shot.
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The accord was in 93, and was being implemented, it was a road map to peace. Rabin was assassinated in 95 due to that agreement.
If there was no agreement and no implementation there would have been no need for the right wing israeli's to assassinate their president.
Again.. what stops Israel from adopting these accords once more?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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Whereas this is one of the most realistic.
Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media, listen to what the actual people involved say. I have heard Hamas people say they will never give up while any Israeli lives anywhere in the world and Israelis say they will do whatever it takes to defend their people and will not give up while they still live. I have never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all Muslims. That is ultimately the problem here and you have to decide what is worse, the complete genocide of a people or defending themselves even at the expense of innocent civilian lives. I know what I think.
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Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media
It's seems as though you have ha ha ha
Ridiculous
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
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rocket attacks over the border like Hamas are doing now.
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 21 seconds ago
The Talmudic Ashkenazis and Khazars should go back to Europe, it's a European problem thrown onto the indigenous population in Palestine
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Not going to happen though is it.
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Unfortunately no
Most of the people aren't even semetic that came to Israel, they spoke Yiddish not Hebrew,Arabic or Aramaic and are of European descent
Another case of Europeans taking land by force and slaughtering the indigenous people of the region
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probably the most ridiculous statement on this thread.
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If you say so, the people are not semetic, just go ask some indigenous Jews from Israel
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Another case of Europeans taking land by force and slaughtering the indigenous people of the region
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If we had taken the land and slaughtered the people as you suggest there would be no problem as the Palestinians would be dead. Idiot.
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
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rocket attacks over the border like Hamas are doing now.
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Rocket attacks in retaliation to the bombing of it's nation. Every country has the right to defend themselves.
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
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To completely remove the blockade they have to open the border. India, Pakistan, and South/North Korea isn't ideologically drive and don't want eachother wiped off the map. None of them would take a suicide vest into a bus full of the other party at any opportunity.
That's the difference..
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
The Accord was in 93 Rabin was killed in 95.That was why I said it was never agreed.Perhaps I should have said never implemented but it was failing before Rabin was shot.
--------
The accord was in 93, and was being implemented, it was a road map to peace. Rabin was assassinated in 95 due to that agreement.
If there was no agreement and no implementation there would have been no need for the right wing israeli's to assassinate their president.
Again.. what stops Israel from adopting these accords once more?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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Whereas this is one of the most realistic.
Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media, listen to what the actual people involved say. I have heard Hamas people say they will never give up while any Israeli lives anywhere in the world and Israelis say they will do whatever it takes to defend their people and will not give up while they still live. I have never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all Muslims. That is ultimately the problem here and you have to decide what is worse, the complete genocide of a people or defending themselves even at the expense of innocent civilian lives. I know what I think.
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Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media
It's seems as though you have ha ha ha
Ridiculous
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The comment was aimed at both sides including myself to say you need to be open to the truth. Do I have to spell everything out?
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 21 seconds ago
The Talmudic Ashkenazis and Khazars should go back to Europe, it's a European problem thrown onto the indigenous population in Palestine
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Not going to happen though is it.
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Unfortunately no
Most of the people aren't even semetic that came to Israel, they spoke Yiddish not Hebrew,Arabic or Aramaic and are of European descent
Another case of Europeans taking land by force and slaughtering the indigenous people of the region
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probably the most ridiculous statement on this thread.
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If you say so, the people are not semetic, just go ask some indigenous Jews from Israel
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Another case of Europeans taking land by force and slaughtering the indigenous people of the region
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If we had taken the land and slaughtered the people as you suggest there would be no problem as the Palestinians would be dead. Idiot.
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Who said every single person has been slaughtered
They are slaughtering people though and many are dead just like Australia and the Americas
Yes i'm the idiot,ok
I'm not the one that thinks Ashkenazis and Khazars are indigenous to the area
You sir are the idiot because you can't handle a different opinion to yours
You have to resort to name calling
I will not reply to you again so type all you want and live in your ignorant bliss
"the expansion grows" what exactly is expanding ??
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
The Accord was in 93 Rabin was killed in 95.That was why I said it was never agreed.Perhaps I should have said never implemented but it was failing before Rabin was shot.
--------
The accord was in 93, and was being implemented, it was a road map to peace. Rabin was assassinated in 95 due to that agreement.
If there was no agreement and no implementation there would have been no need for the right wing israeli's to assassinate their president.
Again.. what stops Israel from adopting these accords once more?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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Whereas this is one of the most realistic.
Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media, listen to what the actual people involved say. I have heard Hamas people say they will never give up while any Israeli lives anywhere in the world and Israelis say they will do whatever it takes to defend their people and will not give up while they still live. I have never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all Muslims. That is ultimately the problem here and you have to decide what is worse, the complete genocide of a people or defending themselves even at the expense of innocent civilian lives. I know what I think.
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Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media
It's seems as though you have ha ha ha
Ridiculous
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The comment was aimed at both sides including myself to say you need to be open to the truth. Do I have to spell everything out?
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You've never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all muslims
Ha ha ha
Another ridiculous statement
Bye bye
comment by RRthedrum (U7933)
posted 2 minutes ago
"the expansion grows" what exactly is expanding ??
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Israel illegal settlements..
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
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rocket attacks over the border like Hamas are doing now.
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Rocket attacks in retaliation to the bombing of it's nation. Every country has the right to defend themselves.
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Do you really believe that? The Israeli attacks were in response to the rocket attacks on Israel that have been going on for years.
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If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
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To completely remove the blockade they have to open the border. India, Pakistan, and South/North Korea isn't ideologically drive and don't want eachother wiped off the map. None of them would take a suicide vest into a bus full of the other party at any opportunity.
That's the difference..
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When I talk about blockade I am not talking about Israel allowing Palestinians to walk in and out of Israel as they please. What they want is an end to Israel meddling. They want to control there air, land and sea space. They want to build a better life, hospitals, aid in there own region without having to seek permission illegally from Israel.
Israel can block the border, build the biggest wall imaginable and the civilians of Palestine will not care. As long as they don't medal with there business there will be peace. If you can't see beyond this then you are pretty much brainless
India and Pakistan control there borders. It's virtually impossible for a normal person in Pakistan to visit India unless it government, sporting or business and vice versa.
Could it be then that the solution is simple ?
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
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rocket attacks over the border like Hamas are doing now.
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Rocket attacks in retaliation to the bombing of it's nation. Every country has the right to defend themselves.
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Do you really believe that? The Israeli attacks were in response to the rocket attacks on Israel that have been going on for years.
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3 kids were murdered. Israel blamed Hamas/Palestine without any proof and then started to bomb Hamas targets. Hamas in retaliation fired rockets. That's how it started. Stop using the BBC as a source
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
The Accord was in 93 Rabin was killed in 95.That was why I said it was never agreed.Perhaps I should have said never implemented but it was failing before Rabin was shot.
--------
The accord was in 93, and was being implemented, it was a road map to peace. Rabin was assassinated in 95 due to that agreement.
If there was no agreement and no implementation there would have been no need for the right wing israeli's to assassinate their president.
Again.. what stops Israel from adopting these accords once more?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whereas this is one of the most realistic.
Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media, listen to what the actual people involved say. I have heard Hamas people say they will never give up while any Israeli lives anywhere in the world and Israelis say they will do whatever it takes to defend their people and will not give up while they still live. I have never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all Muslims. That is ultimately the problem here and you have to decide what is worse, the complete genocide of a people or defending themselves even at the expense of innocent civilian lives. I know what I think.
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Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media
It's seems as though you have ha ha ha
Ridiculous
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The comment was aimed at both sides including myself to say you need to be open to the truth. Do I have to spell everything out?
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You've never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all muslims
Ha ha ha
Another ridiculous statement
Bye bye
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Look at what I googled and what the results that come up are. Kinda supports my view over yours.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=israelis+want+all+muslims+dead&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-GB:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_enGB434&gfe_rd=cr&ei=mpzTU_zUFaOA7QbEgoCQBg&gws_rd=ssl
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posted on 26/7/14
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posted on 26/7/14
Direct question, what stops Israel from implementing the Oslo accords?
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The players on both sides are different.A new plan is the only way forward.
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The Oslo accords were signed, and agreed. Why not implement those?
Nothing to do with different players it's the players, Israelis and Palestinians. Again what stops Israel from adopting these accords once more? They have the power to do so.
posted on 26/7/14
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
posted on 26/7/14
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
The Accord was in 93 Rabin was killed in 95.That was why I said it was never agreed.Perhaps I should have said never implemented but it was failing before Rabin was shot.
--------
The accord was in 93, and was being implemented, it was a road map to peace. Rabin was assassinated in 95 due to that agreement.
If there was no agreement and no implementation there would have been no need for the right wing israeli's to assassinate their president.
Again.. what stops Israel from adopting these accords once more?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whereas this is one of the most realistic.
Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media, listen to what the actual people involved say. I have heard Hamas people say they will never give up while any Israeli lives anywhere in the world and Israelis say they will do whatever it takes to defend their people and will not give up while they still live. I have never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all Muslims. That is ultimately the problem here and you have to decide what is worse, the complete genocide of a people or defending themselves even at the expense of innocent civilian lives. I know what I think.
posted on 26/7/14
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posted on 26/7/14
And the longer it goes on, the expansion grows. It's now even more difficult than ever..
posted on 26/7/14
Just want to point out that while I see Hamas as the aggressors I do think that the Jewish settlements in the West Bank are wrong and should never have been allowed. However, they are a mix of people who lived there before the new Palestine was established which is understandable to want to retain their home and of extremists who do not want to give up the land to create a Palestine which is not acceptable imo.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 21 seconds ago
The Talmudic Ashkenazis and Khazars should go back to Europe, it's a European problem thrown onto the indigenous population in Palestine
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Not going to happen though is it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unfortunately no
Most of the people aren't even semetic that came to Israel, they spoke Yiddish not Hebrew,Arabic or Aramaic and are of European descent
Another case of Europeans taking land by force and slaughtering the indigenous people of the region
----------------------------------------------------------------------
probably the most ridiculous statement on this thread.
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If you say so, the people are not semetic, just go ask some indigenous Jews from Israel
posted on 26/7/14
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
The Accord was in 93 Rabin was killed in 95.That was why I said it was never agreed.Perhaps I should have said never implemented but it was failing before Rabin was shot.
--------
The accord was in 93, and was being implemented, it was a road map to peace. Rabin was assassinated in 95 due to that agreement.
If there was no agreement and no implementation there would have been no need for the right wing israeli's to assassinate their president.
Again.. what stops Israel from adopting these accords once more?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whereas this is one of the most realistic.
Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media, listen to what the actual people involved say. I have heard Hamas people say they will never give up while any Israeli lives anywhere in the world and Israelis say they will do whatever it takes to defend their people and will not give up while they still live. I have never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all Muslims. That is ultimately the problem here and you have to decide what is worse, the complete genocide of a people or defending themselves even at the expense of innocent civilian lives. I know what I think.
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Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media
It's seems as though you have ha ha ha
Ridiculous
posted on 26/7/14
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
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rocket attacks over the border like Hamas are doing now.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 21 seconds ago
The Talmudic Ashkenazis and Khazars should go back to Europe, it's a European problem thrown onto the indigenous population in Palestine
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Not going to happen though is it.
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Unfortunately no
Most of the people aren't even semetic that came to Israel, they spoke Yiddish not Hebrew,Arabic or Aramaic and are of European descent
Another case of Europeans taking land by force and slaughtering the indigenous people of the region
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probably the most ridiculous statement on this thread.
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If you say so, the people are not semetic, just go ask some indigenous Jews from Israel
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Another case of Europeans taking land by force and slaughtering the indigenous people of the region
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If we had taken the land and slaughtered the people as you suggest there would be no problem as the Palestinians would be dead. Idiot.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
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rocket attacks over the border like Hamas are doing now.
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Rocket attacks in retaliation to the bombing of it's nation. Every country has the right to defend themselves.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
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To completely remove the blockade they have to open the border. India, Pakistan, and South/North Korea isn't ideologically drive and don't want eachother wiped off the map. None of them would take a suicide vest into a bus full of the other party at any opportunity.
That's the difference..
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
The Accord was in 93 Rabin was killed in 95.That was why I said it was never agreed.Perhaps I should have said never implemented but it was failing before Rabin was shot.
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The accord was in 93, and was being implemented, it was a road map to peace. Rabin was assassinated in 95 due to that agreement.
If there was no agreement and no implementation there would have been no need for the right wing israeli's to assassinate their president.
Again.. what stops Israel from adopting these accords once more?
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Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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Whereas this is one of the most realistic.
Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media, listen to what the actual people involved say. I have heard Hamas people say they will never give up while any Israeli lives anywhere in the world and Israelis say they will do whatever it takes to defend their people and will not give up while they still live. I have never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all Muslims. That is ultimately the problem here and you have to decide what is worse, the complete genocide of a people or defending themselves even at the expense of innocent civilian lives. I know what I think.
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Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media
It's seems as though you have ha ha ha
Ridiculous
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The comment was aimed at both sides including myself to say you need to be open to the truth. Do I have to spell everything out?
posted on 26/7/14
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 21 seconds ago
The Talmudic Ashkenazis and Khazars should go back to Europe, it's a European problem thrown onto the indigenous population in Palestine
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Not going to happen though is it.
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Unfortunately no
Most of the people aren't even semetic that came to Israel, they spoke Yiddish not Hebrew,Arabic or Aramaic and are of European descent
Another case of Europeans taking land by force and slaughtering the indigenous people of the region
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probably the most ridiculous statement on this thread.
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If you say so, the people are not semetic, just go ask some indigenous Jews from Israel
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Another case of Europeans taking land by force and slaughtering the indigenous people of the region
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If we had taken the land and slaughtered the people as you suggest there would be no problem as the Palestinians would be dead. Idiot.
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Who said every single person has been slaughtered
They are slaughtering people though and many are dead just like Australia and the Americas
Yes i'm the idiot,ok
I'm not the one that thinks Ashkenazis and Khazars are indigenous to the area
You sir are the idiot because you can't handle a different opinion to yours
You have to resort to name calling
I will not reply to you again so type all you want and live in your ignorant bliss
posted on 26/7/14
"the expansion grows" what exactly is expanding ??
posted on 26/7/14
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
The Accord was in 93 Rabin was killed in 95.That was why I said it was never agreed.Perhaps I should have said never implemented but it was failing before Rabin was shot.
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The accord was in 93, and was being implemented, it was a road map to peace. Rabin was assassinated in 95 due to that agreement.
If there was no agreement and no implementation there would have been no need for the right wing israeli's to assassinate their president.
Again.. what stops Israel from adopting these accords once more?
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Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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Whereas this is one of the most realistic.
Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media, listen to what the actual people involved say. I have heard Hamas people say they will never give up while any Israeli lives anywhere in the world and Israelis say they will do whatever it takes to defend their people and will not give up while they still live. I have never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all Muslims. That is ultimately the problem here and you have to decide what is worse, the complete genocide of a people or defending themselves even at the expense of innocent civilian lives. I know what I think.
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Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media
It's seems as though you have ha ha ha
Ridiculous
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The comment was aimed at both sides including myself to say you need to be open to the truth. Do I have to spell everything out?
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You've never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all muslims
Ha ha ha
Another ridiculous statement
Bye bye
posted on 26/7/14
comment by RRthedrum (U7933)
posted 2 minutes ago
"the expansion grows" what exactly is expanding ??
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Israel illegal settlements..
posted on 26/7/14
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
rocket attacks over the border like Hamas are doing now.
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Rocket attacks in retaliation to the bombing of it's nation. Every country has the right to defend themselves.
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Do you really believe that? The Israeli attacks were in response to the rocket attacks on Israel that have been going on for years.
posted on 26/7/14
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 26/7/14
If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To completely remove the blockade they have to open the border. India, Pakistan, and South/North Korea isn't ideologically drive and don't want eachother wiped off the map. None of them would take a suicide vest into a bus full of the other party at any opportunity.
That's the difference..
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When I talk about blockade I am not talking about Israel allowing Palestinians to walk in and out of Israel as they please. What they want is an end to Israel meddling. They want to control there air, land and sea space. They want to build a better life, hospitals, aid in there own region without having to seek permission illegally from Israel.
Israel can block the border, build the biggest wall imaginable and the civilians of Palestine will not care. As long as they don't medal with there business there will be peace. If you can't see beyond this then you are pretty much brainless
India and Pakistan control there borders. It's virtually impossible for a normal person in Pakistan to visit India unless it government, sporting or business and vice versa.
posted on 26/7/14
Could it be then that the solution is simple ?
posted on 26/7/14
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
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If Israel close their borders then there is no way for Hamas to get in. You don't see Hezbolah attacking Israel do you? While Israel continue to blockade, murder and deny basic human rights there will be tension.
A two state solution is the only viable option.
Pakistan and india hate each other but there is peace
north and south Korea hate each but there is peace
stop making pathetic excuses as this is a humantarian issue that goes beyond land.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
rocket attacks over the border like Hamas are doing now.
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Rocket attacks in retaliation to the bombing of it's nation. Every country has the right to defend themselves.
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Do you really believe that? The Israeli attacks were in response to the rocket attacks on Israel that have been going on for years.
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3 kids were murdered. Israel blamed Hamas/Palestine without any proof and then started to bomb Hamas targets. Hamas in retaliation fired rockets. That's how it started. Stop using the BBC as a source
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
The Accord was in 93 Rabin was killed in 95.That was why I said it was never agreed.Perhaps I should have said never implemented but it was failing before Rabin was shot.
--------
The accord was in 93, and was being implemented, it was a road map to peace. Rabin was assassinated in 95 due to that agreement.
If there was no agreement and no implementation there would have been no need for the right wing israeli's to assassinate their president.
Again.. what stops Israel from adopting these accords once more?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of the likes of Hamas that would terrorise them at any opportunity. Agreeing to any permanent peace plan would mean that Israel would leave themselves open to the likes of Hamas. For that reason I don't see Israel agreeing until Hamas agrees to accept them and not threaten to wipe them out. Digging and building tunnels for attack after Israel eased the blockade to allow more food, medicine and building materials isn't a good example..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whereas this is one of the most realistic.
Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media, listen to what the actual people involved say. I have heard Hamas people say they will never give up while any Israeli lives anywhere in the world and Israelis say they will do whatever it takes to defend their people and will not give up while they still live. I have never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all Muslims. That is ultimately the problem here and you have to decide what is worse, the complete genocide of a people or defending themselves even at the expense of innocent civilian lives. I know what I think.
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Don't just take your views from your preferred biased media
It's seems as though you have ha ha ha
Ridiculous
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The comment was aimed at both sides including myself to say you need to be open to the truth. Do I have to spell everything out?
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You've never heard an Israeli say they want to exterminate all muslims
Ha ha ha
Another ridiculous statement
Bye bye
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Look at what I googled and what the results that come up are. Kinda supports my view over yours.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=israelis+want+all+muslims+dead&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-GB:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_enGB434&gfe_rd=cr&ei=mpzTU_zUFaOA7QbEgoCQBg&gws_rd=ssl
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