old man cincis on the ropes

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
I agree, great achievement.

You are as successful as birmingham, Portsmouth and Wigan over the last 9 years, it is quite an achievement
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Except Arsenal have the platform to go forward. These other teams all put short term success ahead of a long term vision and now all sit outside the PL.
Plus that is still more success than the majority of clubs in England.

If only someone at Wolves had a long term vision to turn what was once, a long time ago, a reasonably big club, back into a team of some standing instead of a lower league 'sleeping giant'.
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Oh we have the long term vision, even building a new stand whilst in the prem and being one of few clubs in the game trying to run the club correctly, just back to back relegations have hindered that progress.

As for success, its all relative, you are a massively underperforming big club.

We are one of about 30 clubs wasting our existence making up the numbers for the top 5 teams in the land.

Ah right ok. If only I cared what a bar full of people in New York thought after 10 mins of the FA Cup final.

Oh we have the long term vision, even building a new stand whilst in the prem and being one of few clubs in the game trying to run the club correctly, just back to back relegations have hindered that progress.
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One stand Arsenal built a whole new stadium and managed not only to avoid back to back relegation, but stayed in the top 4 despite big clubs like Spurs, Liverpool and Everton challenging.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 45 seconds ago
Oh we have the long term vision, even building a new stand whilst in the prem and being one of few clubs in the game trying to run the club correctly, just back to back relegations have hindered that progress.
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One standArsenal built a whole new stadium and managed not only to avoid back to back relegation, but stayed in the top 4 despite big clubs like Spurs, Liverpool and Everton challenging.


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Thats right, staying within our means, meanwhile poor Arsenal had to suffer through their adversity with players like Fabregas, RVP, Gilberto Silva and a plethora of other stars.

You hang in there, i know its tough right now, but it will be ok in the end when you change manager.

"Oh we have the long term vision, even building a new stand whilst in the prem and being one of
few clubs in the game trying to run the club correctly, just back to back relegations have hindered that progress.
As for success, its all relative, you are a massively underperforming big club.
We are one of about 30 clubs wasting our existence making up
the numbers for the top 5 teams in the land."

WTF? This is easily the stupidest thing I've read on this forum over the past week. Congrats for an accomplishment that will take some beating.

If only someone at Wolves had a long term vision to turn what was once, a long time ago, a reasonably big club, back into a team of some standing instead of a lower league 'sleeping giant'.


Would it then be wolves the failure specialist would turn his attention to?

Another year the emirates cup isn't won by wenger despite the club inventing a trophy for him

Joker

At least your players can see you have underachieved

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/arteta-concedes-arsenal-have-underachieved-4022727

http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2014/05/theo-walcott-arsenal-must-stop-underachieving/

I remember the days when Wolves broke the British transfer record (was it World transfer record?) to get in Andy Gray, then go close to bankruptcy after a poorly planned financing of stadium redevelopments, which led to Wolves falling from the top flight to 4th division.
Yet Cinci thinks Arsenal have massively underachieved in the years following an expensive stadium move, with 3 of the richest clubs in world football competing with us?

But no, Cinci, Arsenal should be able to dominate English football against City, Chelsea and United while also financing a new stadium.


Wolves, once a big club, now a big joke.

Oops, seems everyone sees it

http://www.scooponthecity.com/scoop-on-football/top-10-underachieving-teams-in-the-premier-league-era

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/960145-7-reasons-arsenal-is-still-massively-underachieving-in-the-premiership#articles/960145-7-reasons-arsenal-is-still-massively-underachieving-in-the-premiership

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/05/06/1250213/fabregas-admits-arsenal-have-underachieved

Gooners and the stadium excuse

You'd swear wenger built the fecking thing with his bare hands

This amusing fella is comparing the "underachievement" of maintaining par at top 4 against 4 bigger spending clubs with the underachievement of successive relegation through 2 lower divisions from the lofty heights of the Premier League?

comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 1 minute ago
This amusing fella is comparing the "underachievement" of maintaining par at top 4 against 4 bigger spending clubs with the underachievement of successive relegation through 2 lower divisions from the lofty heights of the Premier League?
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Hold on? I am fully aware of Wolves problems, we fecked it so spectacularly badly it is embarrassing, but the difference is, i can admit it, you just deny deny deny and blame a stadium rebuild whilst ignoring the fact that half your players, who of course you had to suffer with as they are not/were not good enough judging by your comments, moved to other clubs and won trophies.

Not sure how the stadium is an "excuse".

It is blatantly obvious to everyone it had an massive impact on us.

Or do you think Mr Wenger one day decided he was going to sell his best players and try and bring through kids as a project?
Did he also one day decide to give up on that and spend on proven players? Just coincidence we signed new, lucrative sponsorship deals I guess...

Blah blah blah all excuses for failure

G.o.o.n.i.e trademark

If only Wenger had the common sense to keep us scrapping in midtable when he arrived in the mid-90's instead of winning the league thrice in his first 7 full seasons, we wouldn't be talking of "massive underachieving". I've given Wenger stick for what was an unspectacular period over the last 9 years but to call that "underachievement" in the circumstances is utterly stupid. Underachievement is Liverpool spending 4 seasons in mid-table despite outspending Arsenal, or Newcastle getting relegated, or Wolves scrapping in the English 3rd division, few years from their heady Premier League heights.

Really entertaining forum.

I don't think its a coincidence he made bad signings each season either

Chamakh, Gervinho, Giroud to name but 3.

Despite how bad Wolves have been, and given how bad we were for the most part in the prem, we didn't get humiliated as badly as you guys did last season.

love the stadium excuse, asif they got nothing for selling the land from highbury?

Yeah, its the stadium, all those superstars they had were imagined

We don't know how tough it has been for those poor fans you know, it has been so so tough labouring through with nobodies on the pitch.

Loving the new Liverpool and Chelsea stadiums btw...

Oh hang on...

The biggest joke is Liverpool have been trying to get a stadium to match their reputation for decades and Arsenal went from plan to competition in three years

But yeah, the stadium is an 'excuse' and had in no way an impact on us.

chelseas stadium is still nicer than the emirates in fairness which is hollow and plastic looking...what's with that clock on the new clock end too?
But fair play for building one, but the fans act asif it was some huge stumbling block when it was the clubs plan all along.

we didn't get humiliated as badly as you guys did last season.

of course you didn't it was the worst league 1 in year


love the stadium excuse, asif they got nothing for selling the land from highbury?

£390 million?

Yeah, nothing to do with one project being in London and one being in Liverpool of course

Dj displaying a lack of knowledge again, oh and work has started on anfield

Plastic fans in a plastic stadium still making excuses

G.o.o.n.i.e trademark