Hope this reaches the home counties, I can hear the clatter of chubby digits on a particularly worn bilberry now, twatter will implode...!
And remember -
Leeds vice-president Edoardo Cellino has told the club's fans to stick by his father's vision after another turbulent weekend.
(Leeds vice-president...! He has a title..!!)
Good news about Redfearn being able to return to the Academy if this doesn't work out.
Redders staying, that's about the only good thing in there!..
The thing is, will he really stay if the bossmanager needs his gaskets renewing again?..
As for El Vice Presidente, he's a few years to go before he makes bossmanager, so he'll have to agree his father had a good fart before breakfast!.
Ben Parker Speaks
"Nothing surprises you with 'trigger-happy' Cellino"
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/10/27/ex-leeds-defender-nothing-surprises-you-with-trigger-happy-celli/page/1/
"In that aspect, he has saved the club. You've got to look at it from both sides because he has done well for the club, but at the moment, there is a bit of uproar with the way that he is treating the managers. There is no stability, but maybe he should be given a little more time to see where he can take the club. Without Cellino coming in, the club was in dire straits under the previous owners."
Well said that man
Well said that man!.
I've said often enough that what he's done in the background has done a lot to "stabilize" the club!..
The problem is to keep the momentum going he has to get of his almighty "I can do everything" horse and look at the real side of life!..
Can you imagine the Queen of England trying to run a football club?.
Well, she'd have enough money to do it but I think if she ever did decide to try it that she would make sure she had the right advisers in the right places and the right people doing the right jobs!..
The bossmanager might have made his fortune putting his corn in peoples mouths, but that isn't the right way to do things around a football club!..
He should do what I think he can do, sort the long term future of Leeds United out but at the same time use the right people to do the jobs he obviously can't!..
He want's to add to his fortune, so he should back his mechanics to do their rightful jobs!.
Interesting comment here from Neil Redfearn about Massimo Cellino on accepting his new role in principal
“He sees this as a long term thing and I honestly believe him. All the stuff he has said to me before, he has done and been right with. I get on really well with him and work well with him and understand where he is coming from. He is genuinely trying to do well for the club and I can do with that.”
LufcGermany
"...he should back his mechanics to do their rightful jobs..."
Couldn't agree more, sound advice, but what do you want him to do if the person he trusts with the job at hand fails miserably, or doesn't perform his role properly...?
What would you want him to do then...?
People keep saying his choice isn't right, Hockaday was wrong, Milanic was wrong, I am sure there will be those who say Redfearn isn't right...........
Well he's chosen him.
The only way that a coach can more or less guarantee his place is secure is to win. And then keep winning.
That's how it is everywhere nowadays.
Utopia is miles away from Leeds at the moment, but it is nearer than it was under GFH and it is light years nearer than it was under Cuddly Ken..!
Disagree with the interviewer saying promotion is off. If we win our next 3 in a row which is possible in this league then were right back in the mix. Reading came from 14th late on a couple of seasons ago ...... All to play for.
Shhhhhhh Shaun, whisper it soft, you'll upset the master of misery and his followers...!
It's October, there are over six months left...!
Only six months?? That's only 32 games ffs
Eric, how can he back his mechanics to do the right job when he hasn't got the right mechanics doing the right jobs?..
"Couldn't agree more, sound advice, but what do you want him to do if the person he trusts with the job at hand fails miserably, or doesn't perform his role properly...?"............
"What would you want him to do then...?"
I've already said, he should get of his hight and almighty and put someone in doing the job "he obviously" can't do!..
Like I said, if he want's to add to his fortune and what he says with Premiership football, oh well, look at his last club and think of where we'll more than likely be heading!..
He's tried this way before, blamed countless nr's of people he said couldn't do the job, and got no further!..
His player's, his tactics, his fault!..
Sort the backroom out and bring the people in to do "his" job,(by that I don't mean like "legend Johnny"says!)I mean take the manager out of his name!..
Shaun, its ok winning our next 3!..
Does the season end there?..
32 games?.
Ohbuck, we win 3 and the rest is anyones guess!.
LufcGermany
My question is this, who does he trust that would satisfy you and a few others on here...?
I can't think of anyone.
How can anyone answer that question?..
You can't, I can't!..
He can't!..
Problem is, until he wakes up and see's he is doing no better here than he did at his last club, then this club will go no further!..
He has a club that could take the Premier on if it was backed correctly, it could even have a shot at Europe, but it need's the right people in the right place, and if he don't know that then the fall outs here will go on and on but change from backing him to hating him!..
He could do it, but not alone!..
He's got Salerno to help with buying
He's now got Redfearn to coach
He's got a squad of good players.
Who else would you recommend he gets in to take this great club further...?
Who would you have advise him...?
I agree he has a club that he can take to the PL if it is backed correctly.
The fall outs on here are nothing to do with Cellino
"The fall outs on here are nothing to do with Cellino"
The same as the direction the club are going in has nothing to do with people outside the club!..
Advisers for him, I don't know much of the people out there that can do that roll, but, as dumb as I am I know he knows!..
Take this great club further, he knows the answer to that as well!..
Problem there is, he don't want to back them!..
McD with the right backing could have done something, but, he was what he didn't want!..
He don't seem to like giving the going rate to melons, even when a melon can do the job better then him!.
I can, and did Germany.............I think, I think, I think.
Maybe, just maybe that Redders is a man that understands Cellino, and Cellino is a man that listens to Redders.
Cellino listened to Salerno when Salerno was recommending our new signings, could it be Cellino / Redders have the same repore?
Let's be honest, Cellino didn't know who Redders was before he took over, 8 months later they both seem to respect each other.
Take a look at yourselves, do you find yourself listening to those you have respect for?
That might be a "limited to some" question, I'm not sure...
In all honesty Germany, no malice,
with the signings BM brought in, would you trust BM with 10m and be confident he would bring in good to great players?
The players Cellino/Salerno brought in cost around 5m total I believe, give or take 50p, everyone of then have proved to better than what BM brought in.
Some say Ajose was one of Hocks recommendations, not sure if that's correct or not but can't see Salerno as the man who brought him in...............I could be wrong though.
Luvr, tell us, did McD have the right backing?..
If you say yes than we may as well agree to disagree, because that's what we do a lot of anyway!..
Er!.....
This club when McD was incharge was a sham, but there and again on the playing side of things its still a sham, your love in with the bossmanager might come all good, but the way things are going and have been in his life of football don't say it will!..
Backboard, he's sorted so he says, that's good!..
A shame he can't sort a decent manager to do what people,(well, most people!)can see he cant do!..
LufcGermany
Who is a decent sort of manager....?
Come on name names.
Where does the Massimo Cellino love in come in...?
I don't see anyone overly blinded by the man, I see everyone saying he's got good points and bad points and that they haven't a clue how things are going to turn out. apart from obviously the dreary buffoon and his batman sweary bloke, who in all fairness not many folk take a great deal of notice of anymore.
It is a shame that we've not had a stable manager / coach, but in all honesty what do you want him to do...?
What does an owner of a football club do when a coach or manager isn't cutting the mustard...?
What does he do when the fans are baying for blood...?
Bates got stick for keeping managers on...!
Did BM have right backing,
well, he brought Murphy and Hunt in, they can't get into first team, and with players we have it's easy to see why.
This is what BM said about Hunt,
McDermott continued: "He is a player I scouted five years ago when he was playing for Dundee United.
"He's an infectious character and I'm sure he will engage Leeds fans with his desire, determination and never say die attitude."
A lot of people say BM would'ave took us up had he had the right backing, did BM get the right backing when he signed Kebe, yes he did, however,
out of the 3 latest coach's, Redders aside, the one who was under most pressure for me was Hockaday.
The club he come from, his CV and lack of experience, and he knew what the fans were saying about him, but, in a short time, a hell of a lot shorter than BM, he managed to get the players a lot fitter than BM did, and got the team playing football on ground, something BM didn't seem to like.
Hock as coach was, not so much a mistake as a wrong choice, in that, Hock left a legacy of fitness and the players playing football on ground, something that Redders continued with, but Darko didn't, and we suffered for it.
We all know Cellino's going to make mistakes, none of us are perfect ourselves, but he's learning, and sometimes it's not untill the penny actually drops.
"We all know Cellino's going to make mistakes, none of us are perfect ourselves, but he's learning, and sometimes it's not untill the penny actually drops."
Oh, got ya!.
So, the penny rolled over from the last club did it?..
Luvr. read what I say and think the same bumf you do!..
I have nothing against Cellino doing what I said somewhere around here before, him sorting the club out!..
Now to me,(I have a feeling not to many will agree here, will you?)sorting the club out is dragging it out of the shitothersputitinovertheyearsofshame!..
Some say he's doing that, but the question has also been asked, what will come out when the books are opened to see what has really been sorted!..
So, now people have seen,(for the umpteenthhundred time!)I support him as "the Chairman, President", whatever he wants you to call him, but I think its time he sucked upto himselfe and admited the biggest mistake he's ever made!..
He should take a back seat............and man up to the fact that he's doing no better here than his last club!..
So, you alway's getting heated up about people questioning him,(or you, whichever!)the team, players that you are so happy with, come on, tell me, apart from them playing a bit more football on the ground, tell me, what are they really achieving?..
The Premier is his shout, but not the way he's doing it!..
Managers, he's busted most teams in the whole of the English football league's records on how many how quick,(what, in such short time?)I'd love to know if there is a Chairman/Pesident/God at any football club in the world that's had as many as him!..
So, when do we have the next installment of fun around here?..
Elland Roads just around the corner, I hope he does what he says he will, because that will be the make or break point!..
McD did not have the right backing, he was zit on from every angle going by the 2bit bankers that no doubt stand to profit if Leeds do make the Prem, that or sell to Uncle Ken!..
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posted on 27/10/14
Hope this reaches the home counties, I can hear the clatter of chubby digits on a particularly worn bilberry now, twatter will implode...!
posted on 27/10/14
And remember -
Leeds vice-president Edoardo Cellino has told the club's fans to stick by his father's vision after another turbulent weekend.
(Leeds vice-president...! He has a title..!!)
posted on 27/10/14
Hail Ceaser ! (Jnr)
posted on 27/10/14
Good news about Redfearn being able to return to the Academy if this doesn't work out.
posted on 27/10/14
Redders staying, that's about the only good thing in there!..
The thing is, will he really stay if the bossmanager needs his gaskets renewing again?..
As for El Vice Presidente, he's a few years to go before he makes bossmanager, so he'll have to agree his father had a good fart before breakfast!.
posted on 27/10/14
Ben Parker Speaks
"Nothing surprises you with 'trigger-happy' Cellino"
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/10/27/ex-leeds-defender-nothing-surprises-you-with-trigger-happy-celli/page/1/
"In that aspect, he has saved the club. You've got to look at it from both sides because he has done well for the club, but at the moment, there is a bit of uproar with the way that he is treating the managers. There is no stability, but maybe he should be given a little more time to see where he can take the club. Without Cellino coming in, the club was in dire straits under the previous owners."
Well said that man
posted on 27/10/14
Well said that man!.
I've said often enough that what he's done in the background has done a lot to "stabilize" the club!..
The problem is to keep the momentum going he has to get of his almighty "I can do everything" horse and look at the real side of life!..
Can you imagine the Queen of England trying to run a football club?.
Well, she'd have enough money to do it but I think if she ever did decide to try it that she would make sure she had the right advisers in the right places and the right people doing the right jobs!..
The bossmanager might have made his fortune putting his corn in peoples mouths, but that isn't the right way to do things around a football club!..
He should do what I think he can do, sort the long term future of Leeds United out but at the same time use the right people to do the jobs he obviously can't!..
He want's to add to his fortune, so he should back his mechanics to do their rightful jobs!.
posted on 27/10/14
Interesting comment here from Neil Redfearn about Massimo Cellino on accepting his new role in principal
“He sees this as a long term thing and I honestly believe him. All the stuff he has said to me before, he has done and been right with. I get on really well with him and work well with him and understand where he is coming from. He is genuinely trying to do well for the club and I can do with that.”
posted on 27/10/14
LufcGermany
"...he should back his mechanics to do their rightful jobs..."
Couldn't agree more, sound advice, but what do you want him to do if the person he trusts with the job at hand fails miserably, or doesn't perform his role properly...?
What would you want him to do then...?
People keep saying his choice isn't right, Hockaday was wrong, Milanic was wrong, I am sure there will be those who say Redfearn isn't right...........
Well he's chosen him.
The only way that a coach can more or less guarantee his place is secure is to win. And then keep winning.
That's how it is everywhere nowadays.
Utopia is miles away from Leeds at the moment, but it is nearer than it was under GFH and it is light years nearer than it was under Cuddly Ken..!
posted on 27/10/14
Disagree with the interviewer saying promotion is off. If we win our next 3 in a row which is possible in this league then were right back in the mix. Reading came from 14th late on a couple of seasons ago ...... All to play for.
posted on 27/10/14
Shhhhhhh Shaun, whisper it soft, you'll upset the master of misery and his followers...!
It's October, there are over six months left...!
posted on 27/10/14
Only six months?? That's only 32 games ffs
posted on 27/10/14
Eric, how can he back his mechanics to do the right job when he hasn't got the right mechanics doing the right jobs?..
"Couldn't agree more, sound advice, but what do you want him to do if the person he trusts with the job at hand fails miserably, or doesn't perform his role properly...?"............
"What would you want him to do then...?"
I've already said, he should get of his hight and almighty and put someone in doing the job "he obviously" can't do!..
Like I said, if he want's to add to his fortune and what he says with Premiership football, oh well, look at his last club and think of where we'll more than likely be heading!..
He's tried this way before, blamed countless nr's of people he said couldn't do the job, and got no further!..
His player's, his tactics, his fault!..
Sort the backroom out and bring the people in to do "his" job,(by that I don't mean like "legend Johnny"says!)I mean take the manager out of his name!..
Shaun, its ok winning our next 3!..
Does the season end there?..
32 games?.
Ohbuck, we win 3 and the rest is anyones guess!.
posted on 27/10/14
LufcGermany
My question is this, who does he trust that would satisfy you and a few others on here...?
I can't think of anyone.
posted on 27/10/14
How can anyone answer that question?..
You can't, I can't!..
He can't!..
Problem is, until he wakes up and see's he is doing no better here than he did at his last club, then this club will go no further!..
He has a club that could take the Premier on if it was backed correctly, it could even have a shot at Europe, but it need's the right people in the right place, and if he don't know that then the fall outs here will go on and on but change from backing him to hating him!..
He could do it, but not alone!..
posted on 27/10/14
He's got Salerno to help with buying
He's now got Redfearn to coach
He's got a squad of good players.
Who else would you recommend he gets in to take this great club further...?
Who would you have advise him...?
I agree he has a club that he can take to the PL if it is backed correctly.
The fall outs on here are nothing to do with Cellino
posted on 27/10/14
"The fall outs on here are nothing to do with Cellino"
The same as the direction the club are going in has nothing to do with people outside the club!..
Advisers for him, I don't know much of the people out there that can do that roll, but, as dumb as I am I know he knows!..
Take this great club further, he knows the answer to that as well!..
Problem there is, he don't want to back them!..
McD with the right backing could have done something, but, he was what he didn't want!..
He don't seem to like giving the going rate to melons, even when a melon can do the job better then him!.
posted on 28/10/14
I can, and did Germany.............I think, I think, I think.
Maybe, just maybe that Redders is a man that understands Cellino, and Cellino is a man that listens to Redders.
Cellino listened to Salerno when Salerno was recommending our new signings, could it be Cellino / Redders have the same repore?
Let's be honest, Cellino didn't know who Redders was before he took over, 8 months later they both seem to respect each other.
Take a look at yourselves, do you find yourself listening to those you have respect for?
That might be a "limited to some" question, I'm not sure...
posted on 28/10/14
In all honesty Germany, no malice,
with the signings BM brought in, would you trust BM with 10m and be confident he would bring in good to great players?
The players Cellino/Salerno brought in cost around 5m total I believe, give or take 50p, everyone of then have proved to better than what BM brought in.
Some say Ajose was one of Hocks recommendations, not sure if that's correct or not but can't see Salerno as the man who brought him in...............I could be wrong though.
posted on 28/10/14
Luvr, tell us, did McD have the right backing?..
If you say yes than we may as well agree to disagree, because that's what we do a lot of anyway!..
Er!.....
This club when McD was incharge was a sham, but there and again on the playing side of things its still a sham, your love in with the bossmanager might come all good, but the way things are going and have been in his life of football don't say it will!..
Backboard, he's sorted so he says, that's good!..
A shame he can't sort a decent manager to do what people,(well, most people!)can see he cant do!..
posted on 28/10/14
LufcGermany
Who is a decent sort of manager....?
Come on name names.
Where does the Massimo Cellino love in come in...?
I don't see anyone overly blinded by the man, I see everyone saying he's got good points and bad points and that they haven't a clue how things are going to turn out. apart from obviously the dreary buffoon and his batman sweary bloke, who in all fairness not many folk take a great deal of notice of anymore.
It is a shame that we've not had a stable manager / coach, but in all honesty what do you want him to do...?
What does an owner of a football club do when a coach or manager isn't cutting the mustard...?
What does he do when the fans are baying for blood...?
Bates got stick for keeping managers on...!
posted on 28/10/14
Did BM have right backing,
well, he brought Murphy and Hunt in, they can't get into first team, and with players we have it's easy to see why.
This is what BM said about Hunt,
McDermott continued: "He is a player I scouted five years ago when he was playing for Dundee United.
"He's an infectious character and I'm sure he will engage Leeds fans with his desire, determination and never say die attitude."
A lot of people say BM would'ave took us up had he had the right backing, did BM get the right backing when he signed Kebe, yes he did, however,
out of the 3 latest coach's, Redders aside, the one who was under most pressure for me was Hockaday.
The club he come from, his CV and lack of experience, and he knew what the fans were saying about him, but, in a short time, a hell of a lot shorter than BM, he managed to get the players a lot fitter than BM did, and got the team playing football on ground, something BM didn't seem to like.
Hock as coach was, not so much a mistake as a wrong choice, in that, Hock left a legacy of fitness and the players playing football on ground, something that Redders continued with, but Darko didn't, and we suffered for it.
We all know Cellino's going to make mistakes, none of us are perfect ourselves, but he's learning, and sometimes it's not untill the penny actually drops.
posted on 28/10/14
"We all know Cellino's going to make mistakes, none of us are perfect ourselves, but he's learning, and sometimes it's not untill the penny actually drops."
Oh, got ya!.
So, the penny rolled over from the last club did it?..
Luvr. read what I say and think the same bumf you do!..
I have nothing against Cellino doing what I said somewhere around here before, him sorting the club out!..
Now to me,(I have a feeling not to many will agree here, will you?)sorting the club out is dragging it out of the shitothersputitinovertheyearsofshame!..
Some say he's doing that, but the question has also been asked, what will come out when the books are opened to see what has really been sorted!..
So, now people have seen,(for the umpteenthhundred time!)I support him as "the Chairman, President", whatever he wants you to call him, but I think its time he sucked upto himselfe and admited the biggest mistake he's ever made!..
He should take a back seat............and man up to the fact that he's doing no better here than his last club!..
So, you alway's getting heated up about people questioning him,(or you, whichever!)the team, players that you are so happy with, come on, tell me, apart from them playing a bit more football on the ground, tell me, what are they really achieving?..
The Premier is his shout, but not the way he's doing it!..
Managers, he's busted most teams in the whole of the English football league's records on how many how quick,(what, in such short time?)I'd love to know if there is a Chairman/Pesident/God at any football club in the world that's had as many as him!..
So, when do we have the next installment of fun around here?..
Elland Roads just around the corner, I hope he does what he says he will, because that will be the make or break point!..
McD did not have the right backing, he was zit on from every angle going by the 2bit bankers that no doubt stand to profit if Leeds do make the Prem, that or sell to Uncle Ken!..
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