This year his statistics have been ordinary, but hes been the driving force in our attacks, and the engine of the midfield. Seems to me people have gone crazy about statistics recently, and judging their significance to the team just on numbers.
The likes of Laudrup and Zidane had ordinary numbers, but were one of the best to ever grace the game. Its not fair to Eden to judge his goal/assist return to the likes of Sanchez or Bale, because they play completely different positions to each other. Hazard is a old fashioned winger playing in the modern game, and thats why I love watching him. Someone like Sanchez is much more of a forward winger.
Would I say hes world class. Yes. Hes playing consistently well week in week out, and has been performing in the big games.
For me the top 10 goes:
Ronaldo
Messi
Saurez
Yaya Toure
Robben
Ibrahimovic
Neymar
Modric
Sanchez
Hazard
Zlatan wouldn't make my top 10, Yes he scores ridiculous goals but when he's really shinning it's in points league in Serie A and Ligue 1, If he did it in the PL or La Liga id change my tune.
Poor leagues not points * damn iPhones!!!!
Doesn't score enough goals
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"The likes of Laudrup and Zidane had ordinary numbers, but were one of the best to ever grace the
game. Its not fair to Eden to judge his goal/assist return to the likes of Sanchez or Bale, because they play completely different positions to each other."
Hazard drifts into the same areas that Bale and Sanchez do. They cover about the same amount of ground. Difference is the latter 2 are more decisive in the final 3rd. Hazard can still improve massively in those areas. For example, he had so many great openings to do serious damage against United and Liverpool recently and fluffed them all.
Even Hazard himself has said multiple times he'd like to improve on goals.
Neymar isn't better than Hazard, He was the poster boy for Brazil, That's it. Hasn't done much for Barca to be honest, Overrated and overpriced!
Welcome. Poor choice of statement/argument for an introductory article so good luck
soccer?lol.
"Neymar isn't better than Hazard, He was the poster boy for Brazil, That's it. Hasn't done much for
Barca to be honest, Overrated and overpriced!"
Neymar is the best international player in the world. The consistency with which he delivers for Brazil is stunning. Overpriced? Yeah. Overrated? Definitely not. If anything, Neymar is underrated because people think that slating him as overrated is the popular hipster thing to do. He has actually been immense this season for Barca, but their joke defence and a midfield that has massively declined hasn't helped his cause.
Neymar is definitely better than Hazard.
An aside, but Brown are you referring to the joke defence that has conceded only five goals?
soccer?lol.
wouldn't swap him for messi or Ronaldo you forget that both of them play in two team leagues.
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You seem to be forgetting Ronaldo was the PL's best player for years while he was still maturing. You also have forgotten both of them have smashed numerous Champions League records, and that La Liga is in fact not a two team league these days?
If Real or Barcelona offered a straight swap we'd be complete idiots not to take it.
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posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
"Neymar isn't better than Hazard, He was the poster boy for Brazil, That's it. Hasn't done much for
Barca to be honest, Overrated and overpriced!"
Neymar is the best international player in the world. The consistency with which he delivers for Brazil is stunning. Overpriced? Yeah. Overrated? Definitely not. If anything, Neymar is underrated because people think that slating him as overrated is the popular hipster thing to do. He has actually been immense this season for Barca, but their joke defence and a midfield that has massively declined hasn't helped his cause.
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Agreed
Hes wonderful player internationally, and hes improved drastically for Barca this year, to the extent hes been their best player. Hes perhaps the only player I could see getting Messi/Ronaldo figures.
To be honest I feel its the same with Hazard too. Its becoming popular to think hes overrated, when actually hes not. If anything hes becoming a little underrated.
He's overrated and id much rather have Hazard in my team, I disagree with you and that makes me a hipster Jog on you mug.
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
"The likes of Laudrup and Zidane had ordinary numbers, but were one of the best to ever grace the
game. Its not fair to Eden to judge his goal/assist return to the likes of Sanchez or Bale, because they play completely different positions to each other."
Hazard drifts into the same areas that Bale and Sanchez do. They cover about the same amount of ground. Difference is the latter 2 are more decisive in the final 3rd. Hazard can still improve massively in those areas. For example, he had so many great openings to do serious damage against United and Liverpool recently and fluffed them all.
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Disagree, Hazard plays much more with the ball at his feet than the other two. What makes Sanchez and Bale the players they are, is the movement they offer to the teams. Hazard is begging to make the same runs this year, but last year he couldn't, there was nobody to supply him, so I think right now hes just getting used to getting into opportunities.
"He's overrated and id much rather have Hazard in my team, I disagree with you and that makes me a hipster Jog on you
mug."
Who said you're a hipster? Pointing out a trend doesn't mean I'm referring specifically to you.
hazard is not better bale, but he's not overrated either
The one thing that stops Hazard being up there with the best is that our team isn't an attacking team. We defend 1st and attack 2nd.
Too many games we take the lead and chill out. The only season I remember us going all out was when Carlo was in charge where we scored and went straight back up that end looking for another.
If he was at another club he would get a lot more freedom and a lot more goals and assists.
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posted on 16/11/14
This year his statistics have been ordinary, but hes been the driving force in our attacks, and the engine of the midfield. Seems to me people have gone crazy about statistics recently, and judging their significance to the team just on numbers.
The likes of Laudrup and Zidane had ordinary numbers, but were one of the best to ever grace the game. Its not fair to Eden to judge his goal/assist return to the likes of Sanchez or Bale, because they play completely different positions to each other. Hazard is a old fashioned winger playing in the modern game, and thats why I love watching him. Someone like Sanchez is much more of a forward winger.
Would I say hes world class. Yes. Hes playing consistently well week in week out, and has been performing in the big games.
For me the top 10 goes:
Ronaldo
Messi
Saurez
Yaya Toure
Robben
Ibrahimovic
Neymar
Modric
Sanchez
Hazard
posted on 16/11/14
Zlatan wouldn't make my top 10, Yes he scores ridiculous goals but when he's really shinning it's in points league in Serie A and Ligue 1, If he did it in the PL or La Liga id change my tune.
posted on 16/11/14
Poor leagues not points * damn iPhones!!!!
posted on 16/11/14
Doesn't score enough goals
posted on 16/11/14
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posted on 16/11/14
"The likes of Laudrup and Zidane had ordinary numbers, but were one of the best to ever grace the
game. Its not fair to Eden to judge his goal/assist return to the likes of Sanchez or Bale, because they play completely different positions to each other."
Hazard drifts into the same areas that Bale and Sanchez do. They cover about the same amount of ground. Difference is the latter 2 are more decisive in the final 3rd. Hazard can still improve massively in those areas. For example, he had so many great openings to do serious damage against United and Liverpool recently and fluffed them all.
posted on 16/11/14
Even Hazard himself has said multiple times he'd like to improve on goals.
posted on 16/11/14
Neymar isn't better than Hazard, He was the poster boy for Brazil, That's it. Hasn't done much for Barca to be honest, Overrated and overpriced!
posted on 16/11/14
Welcome. Poor choice of statement/argument for an introductory article so good luck
soccer?lol.
posted on 16/11/14
"Neymar isn't better than Hazard, He was the poster boy for Brazil, That's it. Hasn't done much for
Barca to be honest, Overrated and overpriced!"
Neymar is the best international player in the world. The consistency with which he delivers for Brazil is stunning. Overpriced? Yeah. Overrated? Definitely not. If anything, Neymar is underrated because people think that slating him as overrated is the popular hipster thing to do. He has actually been immense this season for Barca, but their joke defence and a midfield that has massively declined hasn't helped his cause.
posted on 16/11/14
Neymar is definitely better than Hazard.
posted on 16/11/14
An aside, but Brown are you referring to the joke defence that has conceded only five goals?
soccer?lol.
posted on 17/11/14
wouldn't swap him for messi or Ronaldo you forget that both of them play in two team leagues.
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You seem to be forgetting Ronaldo was the PL's best player for years while he was still maturing. You also have forgotten both of them have smashed numerous Champions League records, and that La Liga is in fact not a two team league these days?
If Real or Barcelona offered a straight swap we'd be complete idiots not to take it.
posted on 17/11/14
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
"Neymar isn't better than Hazard, He was the poster boy for Brazil, That's it. Hasn't done much for
Barca to be honest, Overrated and overpriced!"
Neymar is the best international player in the world. The consistency with which he delivers for Brazil is stunning. Overpriced? Yeah. Overrated? Definitely not. If anything, Neymar is underrated because people think that slating him as overrated is the popular hipster thing to do. He has actually been immense this season for Barca, but their joke defence and a midfield that has massively declined hasn't helped his cause.
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Agreed
Hes wonderful player internationally, and hes improved drastically for Barca this year, to the extent hes been their best player. Hes perhaps the only player I could see getting Messi/Ronaldo figures.
To be honest I feel its the same with Hazard too. Its becoming popular to think hes overrated, when actually hes not. If anything hes becoming a little underrated.
posted on 17/11/14
He's overrated and id much rather have Hazard in my team, I disagree with you and that makes me a hipster Jog on you mug.
posted on 17/11/14
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
"The likes of Laudrup and Zidane had ordinary numbers, but were one of the best to ever grace the
game. Its not fair to Eden to judge his goal/assist return to the likes of Sanchez or Bale, because they play completely different positions to each other."
Hazard drifts into the same areas that Bale and Sanchez do. They cover about the same amount of ground. Difference is the latter 2 are more decisive in the final 3rd. Hazard can still improve massively in those areas. For example, he had so many great openings to do serious damage against United and Liverpool recently and fluffed them all.
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Disagree, Hazard plays much more with the ball at his feet than the other two. What makes Sanchez and Bale the players they are, is the movement they offer to the teams. Hazard is begging to make the same runs this year, but last year he couldn't, there was nobody to supply him, so I think right now hes just getting used to getting into opportunities.
posted on 17/11/14
"He's overrated and id much rather have Hazard in my team, I disagree with you and that makes me a hipster Jog on you
mug."
Who said you're a hipster? Pointing out a trend doesn't mean I'm referring specifically to you.
posted on 17/11/14
hazard is not better bale, but he's not overrated either
posted on 17/11/14
The one thing that stops Hazard being up there with the best is that our team isn't an attacking team. We defend 1st and attack 2nd.
Too many games we take the lead and chill out. The only season I remember us going all out was when Carlo was in charge where we scored and went straight back up that end looking for another.
If he was at another club he would get a lot more freedom and a lot more goals and assists.
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