Nicola Rizzoli is the only properly good referee in Europe, so bringing in foreign referees would ruin the PL, they ref to a completely different standard in Spain, Itsly etc, a foul over there isn't a foul over here, The PL is very different, much more physical where tackles are actually allowed up to a point
Ha ha its Vardy not Varney, Mind you it won't matter to you next season
To be honest if England ever want to win anything they need to ref games just like the officials in Spain/Italy/Germany. Our rubbish let alot of things go which would normally be fouls on a different league.
I think you are overreacting to be honest.
There has always been bad referees and bad decisions.
The difference now is that there is so much football on TV, so much analysis, over analysis, that every decision is highlighted.
Refereeing is a really really hard job, and getting perceived 'best' foreign refs wouldn't help. Every league has their own foibles of decision making so any foreign referee would have an assimilation period like foreign players do.
It would be a pointless exercise.
People worry too much about referees. The best teams win the most football matches.
That doesn't refs don't have impacts on games across a season, not that all decisions even themselves out, but ultimately refs don't usually dictate who gets relegated, who wins things and who doesn't, so it doesn't really matter if they get some decisions wrong.
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ha ha its Vardy not Varney, Mind you it won't matter to you next season
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Sorry Vardy. He also got away with a blatant foul when he went on to score against United if I remember correctly.
However this is an attack on any team on individuals, as I've said I've watched a lot of football this season and nearly every game is ruined by a wrong decision.
Righteous
Referees are given literally no protection, scolded by players, horrible abuse yelled at them from the fans, snide comments from managers after the games, and little technology. Yet people expect them to perform consistently week in/week out.
The second incident was in the Villa and Leicester game, two players, Hutton and Konchesky(how's your mum?) went head to head and Konchesky was sent off with Hutton getting a yellow card and then Hutton went on to score the winner.
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Dude hutton's goal was in 71 minute. Konchesky was sent off in 80 minute. You are talking shít
comment by righteous1 (U7048)
posted 1 minute ago
I think you are overreacting to be honest.
There has always been bad referees and bad decisions.
The difference now is that there is so much football on TV, so much analysis, over analysis, that every decision is highlighted.
Refereeing is a really really hard job, and getting perceived 'best' foreign refs wouldn't help. Every league has their own foibles of decision making so any foreign referee would have an assimilation period like foreign players do.
It would be a pointless exercise.
People worry too much about referees. The best teams win the most football matches.
That doesn't refs don't have impacts on games across a season, not that all decisions even themselves out, but ultimately refs don't usually dictate who gets relegated, who wins things and who doesn't, so it doesn't really matter if they get some decisions wrong.
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I don't agree with that at all. A team can absolutely be on the end of more bad decisions than another and thus it can have an effect on winning and losing and thus winning the title and being relegated.
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Italian referees are the best. They are regularly getting called to referee games in Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Rizzoli is the best but other Italians are still better than other European referees. So for the benefit of the PL, Italian referees can be called for only top games.
comment by DeltaHedge (U8662)
posted 1 minute ago
The second incident was in the Villa and Leicester game, two players, Hutton and Konchesky(how's your mum?) went head to head and Konchesky was sent off with Hutton getting a yellow card and then Hutton went on to score the winner.
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Dude hutton's goal was in 71 minute. Konchesky was sent off in 80 minute. You are talking shít
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Sorry my mistake. The goal came first but it obviously still affected the game. No need to get your panties in a twist, this isn't an attack on anybody, just wanted opinions on the questions I asked.
comment by Edinspur - Aaron Lennon <3 (U1109)
posted 6 minutes ago
Righteous
Referees are given literally no protection, scolded by players, horrible abuse yelled at them from the fans, snide comments from managers after the games, and little technology. Yet people expect them to perform consistently week in/week out.
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So they can't be helped by the technology you mention or even training from better referees? You don't agree the refereeing standard has dropped massively?
Chelsea should have got penalty versus Sunderland on a corner and I think that we should have got a penalty versus Man U for double foul on Cahill and terry.
Still I think that overall the level of refereeing is not as bad as it is made out.Referees are humans and are prone to make mistake in a long game of 90 minutes.A referee has to make 15-20 decisions and he is bound to make a 3-4 decisions wrong every game!That ex Italian referee who refereed 2002 World Cup final was so good it was unreal!
Last season we got virtually all the 50-50 decisipns our way whereas this season i think it is almost the opposite. There have been shockers this season like the aguero one. Some refs are awful like mason. I axtually vant thi k of a ref at moment and think yeah he is pretty good
comment by CR7isbetterthanMessi (U18917)
posted 14 seconds ago
Chelsea should have got penalty versus Sunderland on a corner and I think that we should have got a penalty versus Man U for double foul on Cahill and terry.
Still I think that overall the level of refereeing is not as bad as it is made out.Referees are humans and are prone to make mistake in a long game of 90 minutes.A referee has to make 15-20 decisions and he is bound to make a 3-4 decisions wrong every game!That ex Italian referee who refereed 2002 World Cup final was so good it was unreal!
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You believe the standard of refereeing is pretty much the same as ever then?
I completely agree that referees have a difficult job but even so if they are much worse, in standard and I believe they are, surely something has to be done to help them rather than allow them to keep getting worse and facing the ridicule?
I only saw the Swansea West Ham incident once in real time, but my initial conclusion was that it was the right decision to send off the keeper.
comment by Goofy One (U16087)
posted 36 seconds ago
Last season we got virtually all the 50-50 decisipns our way whereas this season i think it is almost the opposite. There have been shockers this season like the aguero one. Some refs are awful like mason. I axtually vant thi k of a ref at moment and think yeah he is pretty good
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I remember watching one game this season, don't remember the game but it was in Europe and the referee was excellent. I haven't seen one this season in the Premier League.
How Aguero got booked when it was a blatant penalty is bordering on negligence for me.
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
I only saw the Swansea West Ham incident once in real time, but my initial conclusion was that it was the right decision to send off the keeper.
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Do you think if the red had played on he'd have had advantage, considering he got a shot away and hit the post or wasn't it a clear goal scoring opportunity as the change was too difficult? If so then should it be a red card if it wasn't a clear goal scoring opportunity?
Think Hutton ("hows Hutton doing" should have gotten a red too.
The GK sending off is more difficult. Obviously the ref & linesman thought it "denial of a goal scoring opportunity."
- and that doesn't mean "denial of a goal".
I still don't see why we can't do what rugby does have a video ref. the only reason every fan gets wound up by these decisions is because they are all available on video on a constant loop on sky sports news for 2 weeks solid after an incident. Why not nip it in the bud during the game. Let's face it we can't ban replays or highlights so why not make the most of the technology available.
The first one was a brilliant piece of regereeing imo. Clear foul and the fact the player stumbled forward into an ever more difficult angle and hit a shot was irrelevant imo
comment by Jimifox4life (U4989)
posted 4 seconds ago
I still don't see why we can't do what rugby does have a video ref. the only reason every fan gets wound up by these decisions is because they are all available on video on a constant loop on sky sports news for 2 weeks solid after an incident. Why not nip it in the bud during the game. Let's face it we can't ban replays or highlights so why not make the most of the technology available.
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Completely agree.
comment by merrysupersteve (U1132)
posted 56 seconds ago
The first one was a brilliant piece of regereeing imo. Clear foul and the fact the player stumbled forward into an ever more difficult angle and hit a shot was irrelevant imo
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The player hand balled before the keeper fouled him. If the ball hadn't come off the players arm, would the keeper have got it?
Good article, there are far, far too many games now finishing 10 v 11. When I started watching football years back, I can barely remember a sending off all season. These days, it seems every match has a red card. Something needs to be done about all the soft red cards.
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posted on 7/12/14
Nicola Rizzoli is the only properly good referee in Europe, so bringing in foreign referees would ruin the PL, they ref to a completely different standard in Spain, Itsly etc, a foul over there isn't a foul over here, The PL is very different, much more physical where tackles are actually allowed up to a point
posted on 7/12/14
Hutton is a
posted on 7/12/14
Ha ha its Vardy not Varney, Mind you it won't matter to you next season
posted on 7/12/14
To be honest if England ever want to win anything they need to ref games just like the officials in Spain/Italy/Germany. Our rubbish let alot of things go which would normally be fouls on a different league.
posted on 7/12/14
I think you are overreacting to be honest.
There has always been bad referees and bad decisions.
The difference now is that there is so much football on TV, so much analysis, over analysis, that every decision is highlighted.
Refereeing is a really really hard job, and getting perceived 'best' foreign refs wouldn't help. Every league has their own foibles of decision making so any foreign referee would have an assimilation period like foreign players do.
It would be a pointless exercise.
People worry too much about referees. The best teams win the most football matches.
That doesn't refs don't have impacts on games across a season, not that all decisions even themselves out, but ultimately refs don't usually dictate who gets relegated, who wins things and who doesn't, so it doesn't really matter if they get some decisions wrong.
posted on 7/12/14
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ha ha its Vardy not Varney, Mind you it won't matter to you next season
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Sorry Vardy. He also got away with a blatant foul when he went on to score against United if I remember correctly.
However this is an attack on any team on individuals, as I've said I've watched a lot of football this season and nearly every game is ruined by a wrong decision.
posted on 7/12/14
Righteous
Referees are given literally no protection, scolded by players, horrible abuse yelled at them from the fans, snide comments from managers after the games, and little technology. Yet people expect them to perform consistently week in/week out.
posted on 7/12/14
The second incident was in the Villa and Leicester game, two players, Hutton and Konchesky(how's your mum?) went head to head and Konchesky was sent off with Hutton getting a yellow card and then Hutton went on to score the winner.
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Dude hutton's goal was in 71 minute. Konchesky was sent off in 80 minute. You are talking shít
posted on 7/12/14
comment by righteous1 (U7048)
posted 1 minute ago
I think you are overreacting to be honest.
There has always been bad referees and bad decisions.
The difference now is that there is so much football on TV, so much analysis, over analysis, that every decision is highlighted.
Refereeing is a really really hard job, and getting perceived 'best' foreign refs wouldn't help. Every league has their own foibles of decision making so any foreign referee would have an assimilation period like foreign players do.
It would be a pointless exercise.
People worry too much about referees. The best teams win the most football matches.
That doesn't refs don't have impacts on games across a season, not that all decisions even themselves out, but ultimately refs don't usually dictate who gets relegated, who wins things and who doesn't, so it doesn't really matter if they get some decisions wrong.
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I don't agree with that at all. A team can absolutely be on the end of more bad decisions than another and thus it can have an effect on winning and losing and thus winning the title and being relegated.
posted on 7/12/14
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posted on 7/12/14
Italian referees are the best. They are regularly getting called to referee games in Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Rizzoli is the best but other Italians are still better than other European referees. So for the benefit of the PL, Italian referees can be called for only top games.
posted on 7/12/14
comment by DeltaHedge (U8662)
posted 1 minute ago
The second incident was in the Villa and Leicester game, two players, Hutton and Konchesky(how's your mum?) went head to head and Konchesky was sent off with Hutton getting a yellow card and then Hutton went on to score the winner.
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Dude hutton's goal was in 71 minute. Konchesky was sent off in 80 minute. You are talking shít
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Sorry my mistake. The goal came first but it obviously still affected the game. No need to get your panties in a twist, this isn't an attack on anybody, just wanted opinions on the questions I asked.
posted on 7/12/14
comment by Edinspur - Aaron Lennon <3 (U1109)
posted 6 minutes ago
Righteous
Referees are given literally no protection, scolded by players, horrible abuse yelled at them from the fans, snide comments from managers after the games, and little technology. Yet people expect them to perform consistently week in/week out.
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So they can't be helped by the technology you mention or even training from better referees? You don't agree the refereeing standard has dropped massively?
posted on 7/12/14
Chelsea should have got penalty versus Sunderland on a corner and I think that we should have got a penalty versus Man U for double foul on Cahill and terry.
Still I think that overall the level of refereeing is not as bad as it is made out.Referees are humans and are prone to make mistake in a long game of 90 minutes.A referee has to make 15-20 decisions and he is bound to make a 3-4 decisions wrong every game!That ex Italian referee who refereed 2002 World Cup final was so good it was unreal!
posted on 7/12/14
Last season we got virtually all the 50-50 decisipns our way whereas this season i think it is almost the opposite. There have been shockers this season like the aguero one. Some refs are awful like mason. I axtually vant thi k of a ref at moment and think yeah he is pretty good
posted on 7/12/14
comment by CR7isbetterthanMessi (U18917)
posted 14 seconds ago
Chelsea should have got penalty versus Sunderland on a corner and I think that we should have got a penalty versus Man U for double foul on Cahill and terry.
Still I think that overall the level of refereeing is not as bad as it is made out.Referees are humans and are prone to make mistake in a long game of 90 minutes.A referee has to make 15-20 decisions and he is bound to make a 3-4 decisions wrong every game!That ex Italian referee who refereed 2002 World Cup final was so good it was unreal!
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You believe the standard of refereeing is pretty much the same as ever then?
I completely agree that referees have a difficult job but even so if they are much worse, in standard and I believe they are, surely something has to be done to help them rather than allow them to keep getting worse and facing the ridicule?
posted on 7/12/14
I only saw the Swansea West Ham incident once in real time, but my initial conclusion was that it was the right decision to send off the keeper.
posted on 7/12/14
comment by Goofy One (U16087)
posted 36 seconds ago
Last season we got virtually all the 50-50 decisipns our way whereas this season i think it is almost the opposite. There have been shockers this season like the aguero one. Some refs are awful like mason. I axtually vant thi k of a ref at moment and think yeah he is pretty good
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I remember watching one game this season, don't remember the game but it was in Europe and the referee was excellent. I haven't seen one this season in the Premier League.
How Aguero got booked when it was a blatant penalty is bordering on negligence for me.
posted on 7/12/14
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
I only saw the Swansea West Ham incident once in real time, but my initial conclusion was that it was the right decision to send off the keeper.
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Do you think if the red had played on he'd have had advantage, considering he got a shot away and hit the post or wasn't it a clear goal scoring opportunity as the change was too difficult? If so then should it be a red card if it wasn't a clear goal scoring opportunity?
posted on 7/12/14
Think Hutton ("hows Hutton doing" should have gotten a red too.
The GK sending off is more difficult. Obviously the ref & linesman thought it "denial of a goal scoring opportunity."
- and that doesn't mean "denial of a goal".
posted on 7/12/14
I still don't see why we can't do what rugby does have a video ref. the only reason every fan gets wound up by these decisions is because they are all available on video on a constant loop on sky sports news for 2 weeks solid after an incident. Why not nip it in the bud during the game. Let's face it we can't ban replays or highlights so why not make the most of the technology available.
posted on 7/12/14
The first one was a brilliant piece of regereeing imo. Clear foul and the fact the player stumbled forward into an ever more difficult angle and hit a shot was irrelevant imo
posted on 7/12/14
comment by Jimifox4life (U4989)
posted 4 seconds ago
I still don't see why we can't do what rugby does have a video ref. the only reason every fan gets wound up by these decisions is because they are all available on video on a constant loop on sky sports news for 2 weeks solid after an incident. Why not nip it in the bud during the game. Let's face it we can't ban replays or highlights so why not make the most of the technology available.
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Completely agree.
posted on 7/12/14
comment by merrysupersteve (U1132)
posted 56 seconds ago
The first one was a brilliant piece of regereeing imo. Clear foul and the fact the player stumbled forward into an ever more difficult angle and hit a shot was irrelevant imo
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The player hand balled before the keeper fouled him. If the ball hadn't come off the players arm, would the keeper have got it?
posted on 7/12/14
Good article, there are far, far too many games now finishing 10 v 11. When I started watching football years back, I can barely remember a sending off all season. These days, it seems every match has a red card. Something needs to be done about all the soft red cards.
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