comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 19 seconds ago
Once again I will point out that it is an opinion formed on your posts themselves, I have never claimed at any point to know what you are thinking or how sincere you are, I have my doubts on your sincerity based on your contributions for sure, but that doesn't make me right.

You however continually tell me I do, and yet call me arrogant.
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You continued to disagree with me and even now continue to do so, if you don't know as you say, and me, the expert in all things me says otherwise, then why else would you continue to disagree?

Not sure what else you call someone who thinks they know somebody better than they know themselves based off a few forum posts but arrogant?

I can't think of a better word to sum it up in all honesty....
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Is it not okay to disagree on a forum?

I said I had my doubts about your sincerity based on your posts, I have nothing more to go on than that. I am not arguing with you, you claim otherwise and that is your choice. To believe you or not is mine.

I only repeat what I said when you start to try twisting the situation into something more than that.

Is it not okay to disagree on a forum?
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Apparently not, the other poster may suspect you of finding the subject of huge importance no matter how much you tell them otherwise....

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I said I had my doubts about your sincerity based on your posts, I have nothing more to go on than that. I am not arguing with you, you claim otherwise and that is your choice. To believe you or not is mine.
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I am saying it isn't important to me, you are saying you doubt that.

That is a disagreement, it certainly isn't an agreement.

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I only repeat what I said when you start to try twisting the situation into something more than that.
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I only said the subject was unimportant to me, you are the one who decided that was worth a multi page debate`, presumably you believe you have greater knowledge of what I place importance on than I do... clearly you are wrong.

comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 16 seconds ago
Is it not okay to disagree on a forum?
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Apparently not, the other poster may suspect you of finding the subject of huge importance no matter how much you tell them otherwise....

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I said I had my doubts about your sincerity based on your posts, I have nothing more to go on than that. I am not arguing with you, you claim otherwise and that is your choice. To believe you or not is mine.
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I am saying it isn't important to me, you are saying you doubt that.

That is a disagreement, it certainly isn't an agreement.

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I only repeat what I said when you start to try twisting the situation into something more than that.
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I only said the subject was unimportant to me, you are the one who decided that was worth a multi page debate`, presumably you believe you have greater knowledge of what I place importance on than I do... clearly you are wrong.
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No I said your actions did not reflect this, and have merely responded to your posts since, this debate has been led by you as you are not happy with my opinion. I am concerned only with tying to clarify this to you when you start trying to make more of it than it is.

SAF- you keep repeating yourself, despite being told otherwise

I hope you've realise by now that you are being like a broken record

No I said your actions did not reflect this,
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Yes, which led you to doubt what I was saying....

I am saying your doubt is wrong.

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this debate has been led by you as you are not happy with my opinion.
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Its been started by and continued by you.

Once you stated you felt it was important to me and I explained it wasn't you could have easily accepted that, you chose not to though, you chose to keep disagreeing with me...

Presumably because this is such an important subject to you

comment by Don Zola (U16190)
posted 5 minutes ago
SAF- you keep repeating yourself, despite being told otherwise

I hope you've realise by now that you are being like a broken record
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Don Zola as always your contributions are witty, informative and worth a read, never change for anyone

comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 2 minutes ago
No I said your actions did not reflect this,
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Yes, which led you to doubt what I was saying....

I am saying your doubt is wrong.

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this debate has been led by you as you are not happy with my opinion.
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Its been started by and continued by you.

Once you stated you felt it was important to me and I explained it wasn't you could have easily accepted that, you chose not to though, you chose to keep disagreeing with me...

Presumably because this is such an important subject to you
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What is important to me is that you understand that I disagree with your sentiment and the reasons why and that all. There is no other agenda despite your attempts to drag them in, if this has dragged on it is only because I have continually tried to do this, in doing that I have had to cover some of your accusations.

I hear your words, but I do not feel your demeanour or responses reflect them. It is as simple as that. If it truly meant nothing to you I am amazed you cannot accept that and have moved on long ago and you have done nothing to change my opinion by raising the sort of posts you have.

seriously, only a stubborn goat would argue like you

What is important to me is that you understand that I disagree with your sentiment and the reasons why and that all.
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I have understood that for pages, you seem to think that despite my denial you can read my feelings better off of a few forum posts than I can based on being me!

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There is no other agenda despite your attempts to drag them in, if this has dragged on it is only because I have continually tried to do this, in doing that I have had to cover some of your accusations.
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The only agenda I am detecting is you clearly have nothing better to do so have decided to start an argument with me based on my feelings and your 'superior' knowledge of them...

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I hear your words, but I do not feel your demeanour or responses reflect them. It is as simple as that. If it truly meant nothing to you I am amazed you cannot accept that and have moved on long ago and you have done nothing to change my opinion by raising the sort of posts you have.
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Yes and I keep explaining that your 'feelings' based on my 'demeanour' and/or 'responses' is wrong, and you keep coming back for me...

Presumably because you feel you have a better grasp on my feelings than I do my own, is that ego of yours acting up again....

Also, using your faulty logic, Chelsea thinking there is a campaign against them must be fairly important to me but my feelings is practically the most important thing in your life right now!

That is based on what I feel your demeanour and responses reflect (and using your logic)

comment by Don Zola (U16190)
posted 2 minutes ago
seriously, only a stubborn goat would argue like you
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Takes two to tango fella, I can't exactly argue with myself...

Also if someone tells you what you are feeling, when they clearly haven't got a clue you are well within your right to tell them they are wrong...

If they struggle with this, and keep debating this fact for several pages, you are still well within your right to explain to them they are wrong....

No one has told you what you are feeling.

I have told you I doubt your sincerity, there is a huge difference.

Only you know what you are thinking. If you didn't keep making such statements I wouldn't have to correct you.

I have no idea what you are thinking or what your motives are or what kind of a person you are.

Presumably because you feel you have a better grasp on my feelings than I do my own, is that ego of yours acting up again....
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I am not the one making presumptions.

No one has told you what you are feeling.
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You felt the subject was important to me, when I said it wasn't you disagreed with me.

You were basically saying I was wrong (or lying) about my feelings.

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Only you know what you are thinking. If you didn't keep making such statements I wouldn't have to correct you.
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You have corrected nothing just done a sematical dance to try and make out you weren't saying what you were in fact saying.

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I have no idea what you are thinking or what your motives are or what kind of a person you are.
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So you wouldn't disagree with me if I said this subject was unimportant to me?

Or the original subject to be exact.

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I am not the one making presumptions.
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You presumed the importance of the subject to me was different to that which I stated.

Not quite, I asked a generic question, you responded to it, I then asked you specifically. I told you I understood your response but that for me, i.e. in my opinion, your contribution to date did not reflect that. I have maintained my opinion since though I have on more than one occasion stated this does not make me right.

If it truly means nothing to you so be it I am wrong and you are right, but it doesn't change my opinion.

Presumptions seem to be your game.

I told you I understood your response but that for me, i.e. in my opinion, your contribution to date did not reflect that.
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So, basically, you disagreed with me regarding my feelings on the subject.

Which is exactly what I said.

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I have maintained my opinion since though I have on more than one occasion stated this does not make me right.
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Even if you are open to the possibility of being wrong, you still disagreed with me on what my feelings are.

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If it truly means nothing to you so be it I am wrong and you are right, but it doesn't change my opinion.
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Its going to be difficult for me to be wrong on this one, with it being my feelings an all but if you still disagree on what my feelings are that is your right...

Even if it is very presumptuous and arrogant of you....

Presumptuous and arrogant of you to tell me what I should think.

I am not going to change my view on a stranger I have never met on an internet forum because they tell me otherwise, I have my doubts and I am afraid that you have done nothing so far to make me think otherwise.

If you think that is arrogant or presumptuous then so be it.

I would not expect anyone on a forum to accept what I say as fact, now that would be unfair, arrogant and presumptuous.

Presumptuous and arrogant of you to tell me what I should think.
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When you are disagreeing with me regarding my own feelings then the presumption and arrogance is on your behalf.

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I am not going to change my view on a stranger I have never met on an internet forum because they tell me otherwise, I have my doubts and I am afraid that you have done nothing so far to make me think otherwise.
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To be honest its probably not a good idea to presume you know the feelings of a stranger you have never met on the internet either, many have fallen into a similar trap and paid for it.

Maybe you are some kind of incredible psychologist who can deduce people's feelings from just a few internet posts, I am afraid its far more likely you haven't got a clue what you are on about though.

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I would not expect anyone on a forum to accept what I say as fact, now that would be unfair, arrogant and presumptuous.
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You would presume to know their feelings though and disagree with them when they state otherwise... which would certainly be presumptuous and arrogant...

Well I can't help you any further, only repeat myself further, enjoy the rest of you discussion. When it resumes.

You never helped me to begin with just presumed to know my feelings and continued to disagree when I informed you it wasn't the case... for several pages...

I know, but I tried.

Yeah... I'd avoid the amatuer psychology based off a couple of internet posts in future if I was you... probably not your speciality...

Never claimed it to be, that is all you.

No, you certainly formed an opinion on it, enough of one that you were confident to disagree with me.

As I said, amatuer psychology, really not your speciality.

You don't need any qualifications to form an opinion.

I suspect if I was into psychology you would make an interesting subject. I suspect we all would.