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posted on 2/7/15

comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)

Let alone kids football. You can see the issues we have my in area from those pictures alone though, right?

I've spoke before about there being streets of hundreds of houses with Pakistani's only, then Indian only, Eastern European etc. The segregation is shocking and you know where is safe and where isn't.

Drug/ race war between pakistani and black folks been going on for over a decade and murders aren't uncommon.
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You're right
Especially kids football!
Teaching them a certain political view when they should be playing football and'enjoying themselves
I manage an under 13s football team and I concentrate on them enjoying themselves and learning a bit more about the sport they love
On the segregation thing
Maybe the ethnicities just feel safe within their own culture
I'm fortunate to live in a place where everyone seems to get along
No divides like what you have described
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Could they just not be a side from the mosque they go to?
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Yeah of course
I'd just leave the politics to one side and fuel their passion for the beautiful game

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 2 minutes ago
I have talked about some soldiers doing it. And then I provided a link proving that SOME soldiers do it.
_________________

Yet you have so far failed to explain why you ever brought this up in the first place...

What is your point?


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It's clearly there for all to read why I said it which is why you are the only one asking.

Flick back through the pages maybe 4 back and read it for your self.
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I would rather fúck myself in the eye with a skewer than read through any more of your bile, thanks.

I am sick of ignorant people preaching hatred on here.


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Yet you asked for a written response lol

Where did I preach hatred?????

Please show me!!

It's getting really frustrating people accusing me of these things and never actually showing me.
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People do show you. You choose to ignore.
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Literally not one post where somebody has shown me a sentence is context to what I was saying. NOT ONE.

Including from you.

You are a coward, instead proving anything you run around the word of hypocrite in hope that the mud will stick.

Nothing has been deleted from here, everybody can see I have either condemned actions of groups in the Middle East through Islamic evidence.

Called into question with articles about the moral integrity of the British government and the army now and in history.

Or offered my take on the debate as to origins of attacks like the one in Tunusia.

I have neither condoned killing, sympathized with killers on both sides of the fense (army and groups in the Middle East) and I haven't preached hate against any nationality, race or religion.

People like you don't like hearing about rape in the army or that blowing up an entire country will cause a reprisal against Britain.

You don't want it to be our fault and that's why you are throwing around baseless accusation which you have STILL not managed to back up with anything that I have said.
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All I have done is point out that you do exactly the same things as those you argue against, in terms of generalisation of certain groups, whilst condemning the opposite site for doing it.

I haven't once accused you of condoning killing, sympathising with killers or preaching hate. So I have no idea where that came from.

You are so defensive over you views you will never be able to discuss a subject unless someone agrees with you. Any article like this is destined to go round in circles as they already do due to you and like minded people on the opposite side.

I guess, it is an accurate reflection on the current politics involved in the situation and why it is destined to escalate.

Still, you may call me a coward if you so wish, as your inability to discuss with someone who holds an opposite opinion and to listen to, rather than shout down, other peoples views; pretty much makes your opinion worthless. In fact, I would go as far to say that you inability to listen and be accepting of other viewpoints actually makes you more of a coward.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artis... (U9335)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artis... (U9335)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 16 minutes ago
One of the reason it does not make news is that we how agressive Muslims protest against a cartoon yet do so little when it comes to terrorism. This despite the fact that terrorism is doing more damage to the brand Islam than a million cartoon will ever do.
====================================

exactly, a harmless cartoon causes such a stupid reaction compared to much dreadful actions
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The paradox of Islam - outrage at a drawing, followed by an "I can see why they did it even if I (pretend in public that i) don't agree with it" in the face of murder. If following a religion isn't a form of insanity, then i'm a liberal democrat.
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You are so paranoid its untrue. At least you know your place
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Paranoid? No.

Bigoted and Xenophobic? Maybe.

Mistrusting of people who put their belief in a fairy tale above everything and everybody else? Absolutely.
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That's your opinion that its a fairly tale, you shouldn't continually try to force it upon others.

I'm not very religious myself but I see the benefits of the way of life that I take advantage of.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 2/7/15

Imagine the outrage of an Athiest FC

It really is just silly

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 2 minutes ago
I have talked about some soldiers doing it. And then I provided a link proving that SOME soldiers do it.
_________________

Yet you have so far failed to explain why you ever brought this up in the first place...

What is your point?


----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's clearly there for all to read why I said it which is why you are the only one asking.

Flick back through the pages maybe 4 back and read it for your self.
-___________________-

I would rather fúck myself in the eye with a skewer than read through any more of your bile, thanks.

I am sick of ignorant people preaching hatred on here.


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Yet you asked for a written response lol

Where did I preach hatred?????

Please show me!!

It's getting really frustrating people accusing me of these things and never actually showing me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

People do show you. You choose to ignore.
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Literally not one post where somebody has shown me a sentence is context to what I was saying. NOT ONE.

Including from you.

You are a coward, instead proving anything you run around the word of hypocrite in hope that the mud will stick.

Nothing has been deleted from here, everybody can see I have either condemned actions of groups in the Middle East through Islamic evidence.

Called into question with articles about the moral integrity of the British government and the army now and in history.

Or offered my take on the debate as to origins of attacks like the one in Tunusia.

I have neither condoned killing, sympathized with killers on both sides of the fense (army and groups in the Middle East) and I haven't preached hate against any nationality, race or religion.

People like you don't like hearing about rape in the army or that blowing up an entire country will cause a reprisal against Britain.

You don't want it to be our fault and that's why you are throwing around baseless accusation which you have STILL not managed to back up with anything that I have said.
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All I have done is point out that you do exactly the same things as those you argue against, in terms of generalisation of certain groups, whilst condemning the opposite site for doing it.

I haven't once accused you of condoning killing, sympathising with killers or preaching hate. So I have no idea where that came from.

You are so defensive over you views you will never be able to discuss a subject unless someone agrees with you. Any article like this is destined to go round in circles as they already do due to you and like minded people on the opposite side.

I guess, it is an accurate reflection on the current politics involved in the situation and why it is destined to escalate.

Still, you may call me a coward if you so wish, as your inability to discuss with someone who holds an opposite opinion and to listen to, rather than shout down, other peoples views; pretty much makes your opinion worthless. In fact, I would go as far to say that you inability to listen and be accepting of other viewpoints actually makes you more of a coward.
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All I have asked you is where have I done what you are accusing me of.

For sale of bringing this to an end why don't you just quickly copy and paste.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 23 seconds ago
Imagine the outrage of an Athiest FC

It really is just silly
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would be seen as racist somehow

posted on 2/7/15

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 3 minutes ago
I would hate to live somewhere where I need to know where I can go. Ridiculous.
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Somehow people think this is as a result of foreigners as opposed to politics. Look at all the rhetoric we heard during the elections. If I was a foreigner, I would move to where foreigners lived because some of the bile on offer was disgusting.

There is actually a study performed about integration in the UK and it was discovered that good ol white folk were quick to move away once foreigners came in because they did not want to be around them.

It is sad. Funny thing is when I was an expat abroad, I immediately found brits and lived close to them in a foreign land.

When foreigners do it here, it becomes a problem.

Tragic

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artis... (U9335)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 16 minutes ago
One of the reason it does not make news is that we how agressive Muslims protest against a cartoon yet do so little when it comes to terrorism. This despite the fact that terrorism is doing more damage to the brand Islam than a million cartoon will ever do.
====================================

exactly, a harmless cartoon causes such a stupid reaction compared to much dreadful actions
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The paradox of Islam - outrage at a drawing, followed by an "I can see why they did it even if I (pretend in public that i) don't agree with it" in the face of murder. If following a religion isn't a form of insanity, then i'm a liberal democrat.
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You are so paranoid its untrue. At least you know your place
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Paranoid? No.

Bigoted and Xenophobic? Maybe.

Mistrusting of people who put their belief in a fairy tale above everything and everybody else? Absolutely.
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What's amazing French and I have to give you ultimate credit for this.

You keep on admiting to being bigoted etc, you've done it on a lot of treads. You've even talked about wanting Britain to return to its colonial days and invading countries for resources and how you admire ISIS for taking what they want.

You said all this but there is still a bunch of lads on here that fully support what you say and never have issue with it. Like Tamolf that Robben fella and De Geas legs.

It gives me some sense about what a lot of the people on here are about.
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I do not support French. Please do not tell me my opinion on a matter, particularly when I haven't offered it.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)

Let alone kids football. You can see the issues we have my in area from those pictures alone though, right?

I've spoke before about there being streets of hundreds of houses with Pakistani's only, then Indian only, Eastern European etc. The segregation is shocking and you know where is safe and where isn't.

Drug/ race war between pakistani and black folks been going on for over a decade and murders aren't uncommon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're right
Especially kids football!
Teaching them a certain political view when they should be playing football and'enjoying themselves
I manage an under 13s football team and I concentrate on them enjoying themselves and learning a bit more about the sport they love
On the segregation thing
Maybe the ethnicities just feel safe within their own culture
I'm fortunate to live in a place where everyone seems to get along
No divides like what you have described
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Could they just not be a side from the mosque they go to?
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Or have a normal name like Wellington Colts or Rangersc and welcome all cultures into the team?

As red warrior says, this is only going to encourage certain political views to the next generation.

RW - I think you're right about the segregation issue, safety in numbers and all. The council must be help perky responsible though for putting people in houses this way.

Thankfully I'm far away enough form it all to affect me now, but I've friends to live in the areas who I used to visit frequently.
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I agree the name is asking for it. However don't you have Church sides?

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
Imagine the outrage of an Athiest FC

It really is just silly
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I cannot stand atheists, they are the most close minded idiotic people on the planet.

Their belief system is contrary to every single scientific principle but they prance around like they know sht.

Clueless morons, they really get on my nerves, especially the extremists

posted on 2/7/15

comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artis... (U9335)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artis... (U9335)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 16 minutes ago
One of the reason it does not make news is that we how agressive Muslims protest against a cartoon yet do so little when it comes to terrorism. This despite the fact that terrorism is doing more damage to the brand Islam than a million cartoon will ever do.
====================================

exactly, a harmless cartoon causes such a stupid reaction compared to much dreadful actions
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The paradox of Islam - outrage at a drawing, followed by an "I can see why they did it even if I (pretend in public that i) don't agree with it" in the face of murder. If following a religion isn't a form of insanity, then i'm a liberal democrat.
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You are so paranoid its untrue. At least you know your place
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Paranoid? No.

Bigoted and Xenophobic? Maybe.

Mistrusting of people who put their belief in a fairy tale above everything and everybody else? Absolutely.
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That's your opinion that its a fairly tale, you shouldn't continually try to force it upon others.

I'm not very religious myself but I see the benefits of the way of life that I take advantage of.
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I don't continually force it upon others, or try to.

Saying that I think religion is ridiculous and insane is hardly equivalent to making people choose between Allah and the sword... like ISIS do.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)

Let alone kids football. You can see the issues we have my in area from those pictures alone though, right?

I've spoke before about there being streets of hundreds of houses with Pakistani's only, then Indian only, Eastern European etc. The segregation is shocking and you know where is safe and where isn't.

Drug/ race war between pakistani and black folks been going on for over a decade and murders aren't uncommon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're right
Especially kids football!
Teaching them a certain political view when they should be playing football and'enjoying themselves
I manage an under 13s football team and I concentrate on them enjoying themselves and learning a bit more about the sport they love
On the segregation thing
Maybe the ethnicities just feel safe within their own culture
I'm fortunate to live in a place where everyone seems to get along
No divides like what you have described
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Could they just not be a side from the mosque they go to?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or have a normal name like Wellington Colts or Rangersc and welcome all cultures into the team?

As red warrior says, this is only going to encourage certain political views to the next generation.

RW - I think you're right about the segregation issue, safety in numbers and all. The council must be help perky responsible though for putting people in houses this way.

Thankfully I'm far away enough form it all to affect me now, but I've friends to live in the areas who I used to visit frequently.
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The councils could be partly responsible as you say
Putting people of the same ethnicity in certain areas
This only promotes segregation

posted on 2/7/15

You said all this but there is still a bunch of lads on here that fully support what you say and never have issue with it. Like Tamolf that Robben fella and De Geas legs.

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Wow so because I share some views on a topic with some lads on here you come to that conclusion?

do one mate

posted on 2/7/15

we should ban faith schools for a start to create less segregation

posted on 2/7/15

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
Imagine the outrage of an Athiest FC

It really is just silly
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I cannot stand atheists, they are the most close minded idiotic people on the planet.

Their belief system is contrary to every single scientific principle but they prance around like they know sht.

Clueless morons, they really get on my nerves, especially the extremists
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Tell em how you feel, MUDD.

I feel the same way about Rastafarianism and Zorastrianism FWIW

posted on 2/7/15

comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
we should ban faith schools for a start to create less segregation
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Anyone can attend a Faith School

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
Imagine the outrage of an Athiest FC

It really is just silly
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Or a Jehovahs Witness FC
There probably is one somewhere

posted on 2/7/15

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
we should ban faith schools for a start to create less segregation
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Anyone can attend a Faith School
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the concept of it though.

I would much prefer all schools to be the same across the country

posted on 2/7/15

I do not support French.

-

posted on 2/7/15

comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
we should ban faith schools for a start to create less segregation
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Anyone can attend a Faith School
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the concept of it though.

I would much prefer all schools to be the same across the country
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Yeah, they should all wear the same uniforms too. And have the same haircuts. It's ridiculous that people would want to be different from some prescribed norm. The bástards.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
we should ban faith schools for a start to create less segregation
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Anyone can attend a Faith School
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the concept of it though.

I would much prefer all schools to be the same across the country
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Yeah, they should all wear the same uniforms too. And have the same haircuts. It's ridiculous that people would want to be different from some prescribed norm. The bástards.
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yh whatever floats your boat

posted on 2/7/15

comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
we should ban faith schools for a start to create less segregation
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Anyone can attend a Faith School
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the concept of it though.

I would much prefer all schools to be the same across the country
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I disagree, we cannot be a society of "a certain type" of person.

We need all sorts, all cultures etc. What would be good would be for people to actually spend time with some other cultures, you know, leave your comfort zone.

It changes your perspectives. My wife is foreign for instance and when I worked in her country, I noted that the family is very important part of the family structure.

Living in the ME changed my views about people from that part of the world as well.

People need to understand that the average human being wants to make something of himself/herself and where possible we should support and encourage that.


War, huh yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, oh hoh, oh
War huh yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, say it again y'all
War, huh good God
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, listen to me

Oh, war, I despise
'Cause it means destruction of innocent lives
War means tears to thousands of mothers eyes
When their sons go off to fight and lose their lives

I said
War, huh good God y'all
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, just say it again
War whoa Lord
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, listen to me
War, it ain't nothin' but a heartbreak
War, friend only to the undertaker

Oh war, is an enemy to all mankind
The thought of war blows my mind
War has caused unrest within the younger generation
Induction, then destruction who wants to die

War, good God, y'all
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, say it, say it, say it
War, uh huh, yeah, huh
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, listen to me
War, it ain't nothin' but a heartbreaker
War, it's got one friend that's the undertaker

Oh, war has shattered many young man's dreams
Made him disabled bitter and mean
Life is much too short and precious to spend fighting wars these days
War can't give life it can only take it away, ooh

War, huh, good God y'all
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, say it again
War, whoa, Lord
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, listen to me
War, it ain't nothin' but a heartbreaker
War, friend only to the undertaker

Peace love and understanding tell me
Is there no place for them today
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord knows there's got to be a better way

War, huh, good God y'all
What is it good for?
You tell 'em, say it, say it, say it, say it
War, good Lord, huh
What is it good for?
Stand up and shout it, nothing
War, it ain't nothin' but a heartbreaker

posted on 2/7/15

comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
Imagine the outrage of an Athiest FC

It really is just silly
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I cannot stand atheists, they are the most close minded idiotic people on the planet.

Their belief system is contrary to every single scientific principle but they prance around like they know sht.

Clueless morons, they really get on my nerves, especially the extremists
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tell em how you feel, MUDD.

I feel the same way about Rastafarianism and Zorastrianism FWIW
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Go easy on the Rastafarianism
The great Bob Marley and all that could you be loved shizzle

posted on 2/7/15

posted on 2/7/15

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 20 minutes ago
"It frustrates me even more when someone thinks they are an intelligent voice of reason and yet do the same things they condemn the opposite way round."

I'm a leftie at heart but some of the sentiments on this sight make me swing far more right than I actually am, and ditto the other way round. They are far more similar than they realise!
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I haven't really offered an opinion on here, just pointed out how some posters are arguing to an extreme on both sides.

By doing this I have been accused of all sorts by Kung Fu. You see exactly the same when someone calls out someone arguing on the other side with them being called terrorist sympathisers.

Its pretty pathetic all-round really.

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