Dunge, the defence is exactly the reason I'm countering arros argument that we are set to compete with Spurs for a European place this season.

Top 10 definitely which was always our aim. Europe next season? Why not.....but the way things are currently, we have to rely on Vardy and Mahrez to continue bailing us out when we concede goals. That's fantastic but if Vardy gets injured then I'm not sure Okazaki will do that just yet.

comment by BlackStarr (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 15 minutes ago
I feel like I'm shouting words but nobody is hearing me.

If Vardy got injured, we have a ready made replacement in Okazaki. Bee, very similar in style and attributes. Only difference so far is Oki is being asked to do a different job to accommodate Vardy!

So do we have the strength in depth to replace Vardy?

I say yes. The defence is what makes me nervous should we lose 1-2 players!
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Im just adding a touch of realism to the debate. We look fantastic, full of spirit and that will be great and really important if we lose 2 or 3 games in December.

Let me put it this way, do you think we will finish 5th? I don't, but that's not me being negative, that's me adding some realism to it and a counter to the 'we don't need Ronaldo or Messi' argument
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No I don't think we will finish 5th, I think we have a serious chance at 7th though.

The defence is a worry, I agree but I think they will get better because ultimately, a solid defence is what Ranieri is known for.

I don't think we'll go through January without strengthening that department.

Even if Vardy doesn't get injured, I do think the defensive issues will start to tell on our league placing. I've believed that from day one and continued to say it.

It's never been out attack that's concerned me so in that's sense Arro is banging on about something that I agree with - we are a brilliant attacking force.

Where i and the rest of the sane English speaking world disagree with Arro is that we wouldn't swap Vardy for Ronaldo. And I'd take Eriksen over Albrighton in a heart beat.

Well BS, normally I would write a thread about these articles but I'd just get laughed at so I'll just post the links instead though I still got grief even though they weren't my words 😂👏

Dunge great point about Okazaki playing a different role. I actually didn't give his role in the team enough credit but our second goal against Norwich highlights why he's in the team.

He's not playing high enough up the pitch to score so his goal tally isn't entirely accurate. He's certainly not getting the chances Kane has for example for his one goal.

Play Okazaki in Vardy's role with Ulloa next to him and he'll score, as he does for Japan.

comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 6 minutes ago
Well BS, normally I would write a thread about these articles but I'd just get laughed at so I'll just post the links instead though I still got grief even though they weren't my words 😂👏
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They laughed at Jesus too and every other great prophet.....

If you want to sort the defence out, all we need to do is play 352 and play to the strengths of the squad we have while still being able to attack at will.

9 games at the end of last season = 22 points playing 352 ish

9 games this season = 16 points playing 4 at the back.

No wonder Arro says we could be top!

What is the relevance of this argument on this and so many other posts?
I don't get it? who cares who Spurs have or Ronaldo.
Vardy is ours but our defensive frailties and i include the defending from midfield as well mean he is crucial to getting us out if the doo doo all the time.

So i seem spurs who have done nothing to us are this years WBA and they will be popping on here to give us a hard time as soon as we hit a bump in the road.

You know, it occurs to me that if something did happen to Vardy then we've got a ready-made replacement in Okazaki. Despite the fact that he's currently ploughing a different furrow, it'd be interesting to see what he could do given the number 9 role, although of course hopefully not for a while!

The defence worries me though, particularly if we lose one or two players.

And I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned this before.

BS if it was a case of us being the same team but with Ronaldo instead of Vardy then I will take Ronaldo but my point is I don't want to lose our team spirit because it's what I love most about us. We had Cambiasso and I loved our team spirit more!

Is Ronaldo a bigger player than Cambiasso? No! Is he a better player than Cambiasso? I'd also say no. Cambiasso was one of the worlds best in his position and so is Ronaldo. Or do people class those that score goals as better? I don't!

I'm not fussed about us winning PL titles and the thing I love most about this team isn't its individual players, it's all of them collectively. That means more to me than one player of Ronaldo's ability!

Our defence is rubbish but we keep scoring goals so why should it be more of a worry? We will get better in defence, I don't expect us to continue like this all season. Whether it's a change of personnel in the form of new signings I don't know but no way will Ranieri not sort it out!

comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 2 minutes ago
What is the relevance of this argument on this and so many other posts?
I don't get it? who cares who Spurs have or Ronaldo.
Vardy is ours but our defensive frailties and i include the defending from midfield as well mean he is crucial to getting us out if the doo doo all the time.

So i seem spurs who have done nothing to us are this years WBA and they will be popping on here to give us a hard time as soon as we hit a bump in the road.


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I personally don't care about Ronaldo or Spurs' players and i'm happy with what we've got 😉

You said Spurs have done nothing to us but they have! Banging on about Kane being better than Vardy and suggesting pretty much there whole team could waltz into ours! Pure big club arrogance "we're Spurs and you're Leicester so you can't be better!" bullshhiit in my opinion and they don't like the fact I don't really rate them that highly and that I wouldn't swap there midfield and attack for ours.

If ive done anything to the Spurs fans to upset them because ive shown them up by highlighting how much better we are at attacking, then maybe they should nurse their bruised egos because it's undeniable!

comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 10 minutes ago
If you want to sort the defence out, all we need to do is play 352 and play to the strengths of the squad we have while still being able to attack at will.

9 games at the end of last season = 22 points playing 352 ish

9 games this season = 16 points playing 4 at the back.

No wonder Arro says we could be top!
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Mate the reality is if we had Spurs defence and our attack we most likely would be top. What does this say to you?

To me it says we need three quality defenders to be chasing Champions League football, so spend £20-£30m and job done!

If we can score as many as City and Arsenal and keep it as tight as them too, where would everyone think we could be capable of finishing?

You're right of course but we have to play with what we have and the results speak for themselves that 3 centre backs at the back suits our squad.

There was also 4-5 clean sheets in that formation, something that even pizza can't buy us with 4 at the back.

Erm......yes I would say Cristiano Ronaldo is a better player than Cambiasso. Absolutely hands down no question. There are things Ronaldo can do with a football that are simply beyond Cambiasso and I LOVE Cambiasso and what he did for us.

TBs comparison is a good one but slightly misleading in that of course we didn't play the same 9 teams last season as this season and we had Cambiasso sitting in front of that back 3 last season, which makes what Ranieri is achieving even more remarkable.

But yes, if we played 3-5-2, we would probably get a CL spot. I'll tell CR

But they're different players BS, they play a different position but both excelled in their position.

I don't buy this "he's a better player because he can do this with a ball or he can score goals" there are eleven players on the pitch who have a different job to do.

Someone like Makelele was absolute class in that position but he's nit recognised as much because he doesn't grab the headlines because he's not scoring goals, he's there to stop players like Ronaldo, which he did extremely well.

Different players but not better unless comparing the same position.

BS there is no way that Ronaldo could have controlled our team and developed these players the way Cambiasso did so you can easily argue that Cambiasso can do things on a football pitch that are beyond Ronaldo!

But Arro you were the one that compared them, not me. 😂

There are free stylists that can do things with a football that Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar and every other player. These free stylists are insane and way more skilful and can absolutely do things with a football that are beyond Ronaldo, does that make them better?

comment by BlackStarr (U12353)
posted 14 seconds ago
But Arro you were the one that compared them, not me. 😂
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Yep and as I expected you saw the goals and the attacking play and thought yep that's the best player because it's only about scoring goals in football, everyone behind is pointless really because you can only be the best if you're a forward.

I offered the comparison to see if you could see the bigger picture, you couldnt!

"Is Ronaldo a bigger player than Cambiasso? No! Is he a better player than Cambiasso? I'd also say no"

So you are asking me to say is Ronaldo bigger than Cambiasso as a player? A comparison. Yes I think he is.

you then ask is he a better player than Ronaldo? That's your question not mine.

I would say no. I agree, it's a stupid comparison, but it was your question. A non sensical question because they play completely different positions.

TB I'm absolutely with you, 352 is blatantly our best formation for our current squad. I'm surprised Ranieri hasn't given it a go.

It's fair to say he won't now though and we have to get used to a back four 😏

Yeah well my point that you clearly missed is that I am blatantly saying neither are better because they play different positions. It was you that suggested Ronaldo was better and now you're saying they cant be compared, which is what I was alluding to in the first place!

So my point again, we've had someone world class and Cambiasso was but I still love our team spirit more which is why it's more important than one player!

I've always loved Cambiasso, used to play with Argentina on Fifa and Cambiasso was brilliant and he was one of my favourite players, scored loads with him from outside the box and then played with Inter and he was brilliant. I then looked out for him whenever ive watched him play for Argentina mainly, and he's been looked absolute quality.

I've always rated him very highly and I couldn't believe we signed him. Ronaldo wouldn't be any bigger for me. I'd be ecstatic but Cambiasso I'd admired and rated for a long long time. I actually don't like Ronaldo in a lot of ways, fantastic player but the whinging and all the continental stuff I'm not a fan of.

comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 12 seconds ago
Yeah well my point that you clearly missed is that I am blatantly saying neither are better because they play different positions. It was you that suggested Ronaldo was better and now you're saying they cant be compared, which is what I was alluding to in the first place!
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Let me get this straight;

You started off by saying you wouldn't swap Vardy for Ronaldo or Messi or Aguero. You justified it by saying yesterday on the Spurs board that Ronaldo can't play in a counter attacking team which got you laughed off there like some kind of modern day David Icke.

Apparently trying to Follow a similar line of argument you've asked me if Ronaldo is a better player than Cambiasso which is a different argument to the Vardy one, because Cambiasso is a midfielder and Ronaldo is a wide forward or central striker.

I think your point is that it's not all about goal scoring. I get that. But I'm not judging whether I'd take Ronaldo over Vardy just on goals scored.