comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 34 minutes ago
I've found that with Mamba over the past 5 or so years
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Wtf? I have actually conceded to differing opinions and admitted the errors I have made.
We've not always seen eye to eye though, eh
comment by Mamba - The Master of Disaster, King of Sting, Dancing Destroyer and Count of Monte Fisto(U1282) (U13041)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 36 minutes ago
And it wasn't a a rant, it was a long held belief. And as for melodramatic, you have to be kidding - I'm not the one calling you names and calling you stupid. Although I have been tempted, but pretty much every time you've addressed me you've tired to belittle me and ignored my actual point. It's really very tiresome.
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I told you your con end was out of topic, pedantic and basically could have been a new thread. It's impolite to jump in head first and start blabbering about 'stuff you've always wondered about' on another poster's article. You keep pestering and complaining about trivialities without giving any opinion yourself. You need to have a look at yourself because you are only spoiling the thread.
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Does a discussion about the divisive language in common parlance in America really not come under the heading of 'Structural Racism'? I felt it did. Sorry if you feel your article has been abused in any way.
comment by Mamba - The Master of Disaster, King of Sting, Dancing Destroyer and Count of Monte Fisto(U1282) (U13041)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 2 minutes ago
The misleading stats detract from the point though. No doubt it exists but sensationalising facts muddy the water.
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Exactly. But Mamba sees any comment that doesn't completely agree with him as an attack, he responds and sees a debate as something to be won rather than explored. It makes for a fairly pointless encounter.
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Yet another attack, and in response to a post that is actually offering a sensible contribution, which you haven't done even once. What a shame.
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Mr Passive Aggressive now. That is not an attack.
Jeez, plenty of people have 'attacked' you in this thread, yet you concentrate on trying to make me look the fool. Which is odd, because basically we agree on the subject matter.
"You keep pestering and complaining about trivialities without giving any opinion yourself."
This, by the way, is a ridiculous statement. I offered up a perfectly valid observation which was raised by your article, you have ignored that choosing to go on about chocolate people, which was taken up by plenty of other posters. If you'd actually read and discussed my original comment, this thread could have gone so differently.
Does a discussion about the divisive language in common parlance in America really not come under the heading of 'Structural Racism'? I felt it did. Sorry if you feel your article has been abused in any way.
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Structural racism is defined well here
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.giarts.org/article/structural-racism&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjd276HnafKAhUEhw8KHU9yAV4QFggWMAQ&sig2=Q0hL5SFH3uhwWBKxXGhn0g&usg=AFQjCNGKE-nEPIfW4JJaNj1yRrOPD7srVw
Has absolutely nothing to do with what you said, nor even close but fair enough for your other points.
To be honest, reading that you're right, but it also doesn't appear to have much to do with the rest of your article.
I was assuming Structural Racism was along the lines of institutionalised racism, ie. that which people don't even see, because it's basically accepted as 'normal'. and I still think it is, but with a bit more.
In my world where "african-americans" are just "americans", this wouldn't happen. Maybe I'm just naive, but I don't really get the "poverty is a race issue" thing - "poverty is a people thing".
Poverty is a race thing too I think. I travel the world a lot and white folk are always well off and black folk aren't. Might sound crude to say but it's the case 100% of the time. In nearly all countries, even in Africa, the whites are the richest by some distance and the blacks the poorest, even in Africa FFS.
I think it's clear to see that there are extra barriers depending on race.
"I travel the world a lot and white folk are always well off and black folk aren't. Might sound crude to say but it's the case 100% of the time."
With all due respect, and don't go off on one, but it's statements like that that encourage people to not take you too seriously. It's ridiculous.
To clarify, your comment basically categorically states there are no poor white people in the world. It's daft on the borders of insane.
And also that there are no rich black people
I mean, have you never seen Fresh Prince of Bel-Air?
It's not ridiculous because it's what I have experienced with my own eyes. White communities are generally better off when compared to black ones. Why is this surprising? You need to start living in the real world.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
To clarify, your comment basically categorically states there are no poor white people in the world. It's daft on the borders of insane.
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No, that's your knives drawn attitude making you hallucinate. The comment is obviously a generalisation. I didn't know I had to elaborate the nitty gritty.
No knives out. No hallucination. No 'nitty gritty' required.
You need to avoid words/terms like 'always', '100%' and 'a lot' when writing your comments if you intend them to be read as a generalisation.
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 56 minutes ago
And also that there are no rich black people
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Yeah that's obviously what I was saying...
Think about it, that's what I was saying right?
Your petty pedantic sideshows are pathetically petty. So much so that, and don't go off on one, I wonder what your motive is.
Mamba you went from :
"White folk are always well off and black folk aren't. ..... it's the case 100% of the time"
to :
"White communities are generally better off when compared to black ones." ...
Sensationalism doesn't go down too well imo.
Grizzles gets the point
They aren't pedantic sideshows, these issues are serious ones that trivialise the real problems.
ffs. The only motive here is to understand what you're saying. It's not my fault you can't express yourself without embellishing every statement with hyperbole.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 15 seconds ago
No knives out. No hallucination. No 'nitty gritty' required.
You need to avoid words/terms like 'always', '100%' and 'a lot' when writing your comments if you intend them to be read as a generalisation.
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No I don't. You need to not be so stuck up, petty, pedantic and PC. I didn't think someone on here was stupid enough to conclude I was saying all white people are rich. The assumption would be you've misread it or its typed poorly etc. Your assumption instead shows that the knives are drawn otherwise you wouldn't make that stupid error, because that's what it is.
The first was a statement I thought I was making to a more informed audience. The second was a clarification once I found I was being unreasonably misunderstood. Are you honestly saying that when you read my post you got the impression I was saying all whites are rich? If so, I'm definitely not the one with a problem.
It's not sensationalist because it's fact. When I say that I always use Green Street, does that mean I've never used another street? You have to be really stuck up to make that conclusion.
comment by Mamba - The Master of Disaster, King of Sting, Dancing Destroyer and Count of Monte Fisto(U1282) (U13041)
posted 4 minutes ago
"....I didn't think someone on here was stupid enough to conclude I was saying all white people are rich...."
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What the hell did you think people would assume you meant when you wrote "White folk are always well off and black folk aren't. ..... it's the case 100% of the time" ?
My god, you can't help yourself. Yeah, I'm "stuck up, petty, pedantic and PC" because I can read.
Mate this is a written word forum, I can only go by what you write - if you say ALWAYS where have I got to go other than, Jeez this guy thinks this always happens?
It is a clear and unambiguous statement. You're an fecking moron.
I wasn't talking about you there, I was thinking about someone else. Wasn't that obvious.
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 8 minutes ago
Grizzles gets the point
They aren't pedantic sideshows, these issues are serious ones that trivialise the real problems.
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Explain how what I have said does that. You probably won't though
What the hell did you think people would assume you meant when you wrote "White folk are always well off and black folk aren't. ..... it's the case 100% of the time" ?
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My dog knows there's white folk who aren't well off. I expected a reasonable response not the witch hunt that's been coming inevitably.
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Structural Racism
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posted on 13/1/16
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 34 minutes ago
I've found that with Mamba over the past 5 or so years
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Wtf? I have actually conceded to differing opinions and admitted the errors I have made.
posted on 13/1/16
We've not always seen eye to eye though, eh
posted on 13/1/16
comment by Mamba - The Master of Disaster, King of Sting, Dancing Destroyer and Count of Monte Fisto(U1282) (U13041)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 36 minutes ago
And it wasn't a a rant, it was a long held belief. And as for melodramatic, you have to be kidding - I'm not the one calling you names and calling you stupid. Although I have been tempted, but pretty much every time you've addressed me you've tired to belittle me and ignored my actual point. It's really very tiresome.
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I told you your con end was out of topic, pedantic and basically could have been a new thread. It's impolite to jump in head first and start blabbering about 'stuff you've always wondered about' on another poster's article. You keep pestering and complaining about trivialities without giving any opinion yourself. You need to have a look at yourself because you are only spoiling the thread.
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Does a discussion about the divisive language in common parlance in America really not come under the heading of 'Structural Racism'? I felt it did. Sorry if you feel your article has been abused in any way.
posted on 13/1/16
comment by Mamba - The Master of Disaster, King of Sting, Dancing Destroyer and Count of Monte Fisto(U1282) (U13041)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 2 minutes ago
The misleading stats detract from the point though. No doubt it exists but sensationalising facts muddy the water.
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Exactly. But Mamba sees any comment that doesn't completely agree with him as an attack, he responds and sees a debate as something to be won rather than explored. It makes for a fairly pointless encounter.
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Yet another attack, and in response to a post that is actually offering a sensible contribution, which you haven't done even once. What a shame.
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Mr Passive Aggressive now. That is not an attack.
Jeez, plenty of people have 'attacked' you in this thread, yet you concentrate on trying to make me look the fool. Which is odd, because basically we agree on the subject matter.
posted on 13/1/16
"You keep pestering and complaining about trivialities without giving any opinion yourself."
This, by the way, is a ridiculous statement. I offered up a perfectly valid observation which was raised by your article, you have ignored that choosing to go on about chocolate people, which was taken up by plenty of other posters. If you'd actually read and discussed my original comment, this thread could have gone so differently.
posted on 13/1/16
Does a discussion about the divisive language in common parlance in America really not come under the heading of 'Structural Racism'? I felt it did. Sorry if you feel your article has been abused in any way.
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Structural racism is defined well here
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.giarts.org/article/structural-racism&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjd276HnafKAhUEhw8KHU9yAV4QFggWMAQ&sig2=Q0hL5SFH3uhwWBKxXGhn0g&usg=AFQjCNGKE-nEPIfW4JJaNj1yRrOPD7srVw
Has absolutely nothing to do with what you said, nor even close but fair enough for your other points.
posted on 13/1/16
To be honest, reading that you're right, but it also doesn't appear to have much to do with the rest of your article.
I was assuming Structural Racism was along the lines of institutionalised racism, ie. that which people don't even see, because it's basically accepted as 'normal'. and I still think it is, but with a bit more.
In my world where "african-americans" are just "americans", this wouldn't happen. Maybe I'm just naive, but I don't really get the "poverty is a race issue" thing - "poverty is a people thing".
posted on 14/1/16
Poverty is a race thing too I think. I travel the world a lot and white folk are always well off and black folk aren't. Might sound crude to say but it's the case 100% of the time. In nearly all countries, even in Africa, the whites are the richest by some distance and the blacks the poorest, even in Africa FFS.
I think it's clear to see that there are extra barriers depending on race.
posted on 14/1/16
"I travel the world a lot and white folk are always well off and black folk aren't. Might sound crude to say but it's the case 100% of the time."
With all due respect, and don't go off on one, but it's statements like that that encourage people to not take you too seriously. It's ridiculous.
posted on 14/1/16
Jesus wept, Mamba
posted on 14/1/16
To clarify, your comment basically categorically states there are no poor white people in the world. It's daft on the borders of insane.
posted on 14/1/16
And also that there are no rich black people
I mean, have you never seen Fresh Prince of Bel-Air?
posted on 14/1/16
It's not ridiculous because it's what I have experienced with my own eyes. White communities are generally better off when compared to black ones. Why is this surprising? You need to start living in the real world.
posted on 14/1/16
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
To clarify, your comment basically categorically states there are no poor white people in the world. It's daft on the borders of insane.
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No, that's your knives drawn attitude making you hallucinate. The comment is obviously a generalisation. I didn't know I had to elaborate the nitty gritty.
posted on 14/1/16
No knives out. No hallucination. No 'nitty gritty' required.
You need to avoid words/terms like 'always', '100%' and 'a lot' when writing your comments if you intend them to be read as a generalisation.
posted on 14/1/16
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 56 minutes ago
And also that there are no rich black people
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Yeah that's obviously what I was saying...
Think about it, that's what I was saying right?
Your petty pedantic sideshows are pathetically petty. So much so that, and don't go off on one, I wonder what your motive is.
posted on 14/1/16
Mamba you went from :
"White folk are always well off and black folk aren't. ..... it's the case 100% of the time"
to :
"White communities are generally better off when compared to black ones." ...
Sensationalism doesn't go down too well imo.
posted on 14/1/16
Grizzles gets the point
They aren't pedantic sideshows, these issues are serious ones that trivialise the real problems.
posted on 14/1/16
ffs. The only motive here is to understand what you're saying. It's not my fault you can't express yourself without embellishing every statement with hyperbole.
posted on 14/1/16
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 15 seconds ago
No knives out. No hallucination. No 'nitty gritty' required.
You need to avoid words/terms like 'always', '100%' and 'a lot' when writing your comments if you intend them to be read as a generalisation.
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No I don't. You need to not be so stuck up, petty, pedantic and PC. I didn't think someone on here was stupid enough to conclude I was saying all white people are rich. The assumption would be you've misread it or its typed poorly etc. Your assumption instead shows that the knives are drawn otherwise you wouldn't make that stupid error, because that's what it is.
posted on 14/1/16
The first was a statement I thought I was making to a more informed audience. The second was a clarification once I found I was being unreasonably misunderstood. Are you honestly saying that when you read my post you got the impression I was saying all whites are rich? If so, I'm definitely not the one with a problem.
It's not sensationalist because it's fact. When I say that I always use Green Street, does that mean I've never used another street? You have to be really stuck up to make that conclusion.
posted on 14/1/16
comment by Mamba - The Master of Disaster, King of Sting, Dancing Destroyer and Count of Monte Fisto(U1282) (U13041)
posted 4 minutes ago
"....I didn't think someone on here was stupid enough to conclude I was saying all white people are rich...."
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What the hell did you think people would assume you meant when you wrote "White folk are always well off and black folk aren't. ..... it's the case 100% of the time" ?
posted on 14/1/16
My god, you can't help yourself. Yeah, I'm "stuck up, petty, pedantic and PC" because I can read.
Mate this is a written word forum, I can only go by what you write - if you say ALWAYS where have I got to go other than, Jeez this guy thinks this always happens?
It is a clear and unambiguous statement. You're an fecking moron.
I wasn't talking about you there, I was thinking about someone else. Wasn't that obvious.
posted on 14/1/16
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 8 minutes ago
Grizzles gets the point
They aren't pedantic sideshows, these issues are serious ones that trivialise the real problems.
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Explain how what I have said does that. You probably won't though
posted on 14/1/16
What the hell did you think people would assume you meant when you wrote "White folk are always well off and black folk aren't. ..... it's the case 100% of the time" ?
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My dog knows there's white folk who aren't well off. I expected a reasonable response not the witch hunt that's been coming inevitably.
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