Spent all the bale money on good players tho - another screamer from Chadli yesterday
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If the rumours are true and we sign Dembele and loan him back for the rest of the season id be very surprised if we sign another striker in the next two days.
Come next summer we will then have 3 strikers fighting it out for one position, Kane will always be first choice and we will have not one but two strikers unhappy at not playing.
I think Poch's plan is to have two strikers and 2 or 3 players like Chadli, son and clinton who can cover in an emergency.
I'm.sure Levy will get blamed if the sheet hits the fan, but if reports are to be believed Poch turned down Austin.
It's a position Poch will have to answer to come May, not Levy.
Inert towards gettingbanothet striker in, but in the Summer I'd have liked another deeper midfielder too - I didn't overly trust Poch on Dier, and he has proven to be spot on.
It is what it is
comment by ツ Hєиgу (U9129)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 2 minutes ago
The thing is, Spurs have been here before, Poch has not.
We have been in a great position in January in the past, failed to strengthen adequately in key areas and ultimately failed come the end of the season.
Poch has not been in that situation before, maybe he thinks he has enough cover, but I for one would not like to take that chance again.
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So we should buy him a player he doesn't want. Basically just pisss away millions of pounds ? No
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Who says he doesnt want another player?
You can guarantee Poch has a list of players he thinks could improve his squad and are attainable.
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Name these players?
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Well I`ll just get out my fackin crystal ball and give you a list Most clubs (including Spurs) don`t give a running commentary on who they are trying to sign, the few dregs that just filter into the media rumours are just a fraction of what goes on behind closed doors.
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by ツ Hєиgу (U9129)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 2 minutes ago
The thing is, Spurs have been here before, Poch has not.
We have been in a great position in January in the past, failed to strengthen adequately in key areas and ultimately failed come the end of the season.
Poch has not been in that situation before, maybe he thinks he has enough cover, but I for one would not like to take that chance again.
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So we should buy him a player he doesn't want. Basically just pisss away millions of pounds ? No
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Who says he doesnt want another player?
You can guarantee Poch has a list of players he thinks could improve his squad and are attainable.
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Name these players?
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Well I`ll just get out my fackin crystal ball and give you a listMost clubs (including Spurs) don`t give a running commentary on who they are trying to sign, the few dregs that just filter into the media rumours are just a fraction of what goes on behind closed doors.
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Oh so you don't have a clue then
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 2 minutes ago
The thing is, Spurs have been here before, Poch has not.
We have been in a great position in January in the past, failed to strengthen adequately in key areas and ultimately failed come the end of the season.
Poch has not been in that situation before, maybe he thinks he has enough cover, but I for one would not like to take that chance again.
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when we 'failed to strengthen adequately' we had Defoe, Pavlyuchenko & Adebayor, Bale and VDV.....blessed with attacking power and people think we should have bought a 4th strikerSaha was a perfectly adequate signing in the circumstances. Redknapp lost us our position through gross mismanagement. He paid the price.
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Where did I say strengthen with another striker
Rumours The Toon are prepared to bid 20m+ for Berahino, I can`t see Levy going higher than that, even if we are still interested.
The Dembele deal; his contract is up in the summer but he can sign a pre-contract agreement now with foreign clubs. Fulham are well within their rights to say "loan him back or no deal", and let him go on a free.
If the right player isn't out there right now then we might as well wait until the summer before going after a more senior striker. Not the ideal situation, but this isn't FIFA 16 where we can buy a quality striker right now and don't have to worry about whether they're cup-tied or having to integrate them to a new team/country/climate.
If this is true this seriously makes me mad as we have to play Fulham in a week or so.
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 2 minutes ago
The thing is, Spurs have been here before, Poch has not.
We have been in a great position in January in the past, failed to strengthen adequately in key areas and ultimately failed come the end of the season.
Poch has not been in that situation before, maybe he thinks he has enough cover, but I for one would not like to take that chance again.
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when we 'failed to strengthen adequately' we had Defoe, Pavlyuchenko & Adebayor, Bale and VDV.....blessed with attacking power and people think we should have bought a 4th strikerSaha was a perfectly adequate signing in the circumstances. Redknapp lost us our position through gross mismanagement. He paid the price.
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Where did I say strengthen with another striker
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We brought in a CB and a FWD.....I could list our midfielders that season but have no time, save we had plenty ....of course you were referring to the Saha loan
Signing Saha was disappointing given who we were supposedly linked to in that transfer window. The most annoying thing about the Saha deal was that we left it late in the transfer window to bring him in. This was at a point where the strikers we had weren't in their best form. Ade had something like 1 goal in 7.
We missed a trick with the Pato loan signing. Would have been perfect and I'm sure we were linked with him last season
Pato? He's been playing on the left rather than as a striker. Besides that deal has all the hallmarks of the agent being at the heart of it - Joorabchian is also Ramires' agent, who they've just sold for £25m...
Pato doesn't interest me. Since that seemed to pave the way for Remy to leave, he would have been a worthy signing. Instead he's going to Leicester
I have never known a manager that does not want to improve his squad. The only restriction on a manager buying a player is the club's chairman/owner/board who impose spending restrictions.
Porch is towing the party line in public, but I am sure he had identified targets and its down to Daniel Levy to do deals (if he wants to). I am totally convinced that Levy believes he has the club's best interests at the forefront of his thoughts, but unfortunately his tendency towards brinksmanship regularly leaves us not achieving our objectives in the transfer market.
Let's see if anything develops over the next 24 hours, but the idea that Poch doesn't want another striker now is misguided IMO
Exactly how I feel Gezza. Well said.
I trust the scouts more than I have in the past and if they can't find anyone then I believe that their isn't anyone worth buying.
You have to look at the fact we are asking for a player to come in and sit on the bench just in case Kane gets injured!
Any young quality striker would not sign up to that
Poch might well want a striker now, but it could perhaps be the case that those he wants aren't attainable at the moment?
We also need a player to come in who is capable of standing in for or replacing Kane, not just to sit on the bench. There may come a time when Kane`s form drops off so much that he deserves to be dropped.
Kane will need a rest from time to time also, unless they expect him to start 50/60 games a season.
Kane also needs proper competition for his place to keep him on his toes, at the moment he is guaranteed to start almost every game.
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon: Football Manager legend (U20121)
posted 6 minutes ago
Poch might well want a striker now, but it could perhaps be the case that those he wants aren't attainable at the moment?
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As I said, a manager will always want to strengthen if he can. It's then down to the club to do the deals. Unless Poch has Messi, Ronaldo etc on his list, then I'm sure the others are attainable. But it's up to the powers that be if they want to make it happen. This is my point. Others are suggesting that Poch has made the decision not to buy a striker and I think this view is misguided.
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon: Football Manager legend (U20121)
posted 6 minutes ago
Poch might well want a striker now, but it could perhaps be the case that those he wants aren't attainable at the moment?
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As I said, a manager will always want to strengthen if he can. It's then down to the club to do the deals. Unless Poch has Messi, Ronaldo etc on his list, then I'm sure the others are attainable. But it's up to the powers that be if they want to make it happen. This is my point. Others are suggesting that Poch has made the decision not to buy a striker and I think this view is misguided.
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I he was happy to just strengthen the squad in terms of numbers, we would have made a move for Austin last Summer (available for much less than we were willing to pay for Berahino), and we would 100% have made a move for him at 4m this month, as even if we sold him in the Summer it'd be for at least double that, probably treble.
That points towards Poch wanting a particular striker or nothing. Something he himself as alluded to, and the reported snubbing of buying Austin would back up.
All speculation of course, but if we know anything about Poch it is that he is very idealistic, and won't play players he doesn't see fitting his system even if they are available to him.
Newcastle have bid 21 million for berahino
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 11 seconds ago
I he was happy to just strengthen the squad in terms of numbers, we would have made a move for Austin last Summer (available for much less than we were willing to pay for Berahino), and we would 100% have made a move for him at 4m this month, as even if we sold him in the Summer it'd be for at least double that, probably treble.
That points towards Poch wanting a particular striker or nothing. Something he himself as alluded to, and the reported snubbing of buying Austin would back up.
All speculation of course, but if we know anything about Poch it is that he is very idealistic, and won't play players he doesn't see fitting his system even if they are available to him.
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Maybe we'll have to agree to disagree! My opinion is that Poch has his targets. You (and others) seem to think he has made a decision on behalf of the club not to buy a striker who is available for the remainder of the season. As you say, it's all speculation....but I think I'm right!
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posted on 31/1/16
Spent all the bale money on good players tho - another screamer from Chadli yesterday
posted on 31/1/16
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posted on 31/1/16
If the rumours are true and we sign Dembele and loan him back for the rest of the season id be very surprised if we sign another striker in the next two days.
Come next summer we will then have 3 strikers fighting it out for one position, Kane will always be first choice and we will have not one but two strikers unhappy at not playing.
I think Poch's plan is to have two strikers and 2 or 3 players like Chadli, son and clinton who can cover in an emergency.
posted on 31/1/16
I'm.sure Levy will get blamed if the sheet hits the fan, but if reports are to be believed Poch turned down Austin.
It's a position Poch will have to answer to come May, not Levy.
Inert towards gettingbanothet striker in, but in the Summer I'd have liked another deeper midfielder too - I didn't overly trust Poch on Dier, and he has proven to be spot on.
It is what it is
posted on 31/1/16
comment by ツ Hєиgу (U9129)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 2 minutes ago
The thing is, Spurs have been here before, Poch has not.
We have been in a great position in January in the past, failed to strengthen adequately in key areas and ultimately failed come the end of the season.
Poch has not been in that situation before, maybe he thinks he has enough cover, but I for one would not like to take that chance again.
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So we should buy him a player he doesn't want. Basically just pisss away millions of pounds ? No
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who says he doesnt want another player?
You can guarantee Poch has a list of players he thinks could improve his squad and are attainable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Name these players?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well I`ll just get out my fackin crystal ball and give you a list Most clubs (including Spurs) don`t give a running commentary on who they are trying to sign, the few dregs that just filter into the media rumours are just a fraction of what goes on behind closed doors.
posted on 31/1/16
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by ツ Hєиgу (U9129)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 2 minutes ago
The thing is, Spurs have been here before, Poch has not.
We have been in a great position in January in the past, failed to strengthen adequately in key areas and ultimately failed come the end of the season.
Poch has not been in that situation before, maybe he thinks he has enough cover, but I for one would not like to take that chance again.
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So we should buy him a player he doesn't want. Basically just pisss away millions of pounds ? No
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who says he doesnt want another player?
You can guarantee Poch has a list of players he thinks could improve his squad and are attainable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Name these players?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well I`ll just get out my fackin crystal ball and give you a listMost clubs (including Spurs) don`t give a running commentary on who they are trying to sign, the few dregs that just filter into the media rumours are just a fraction of what goes on behind closed doors.
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Oh so you don't have a clue then
posted on 31/1/16
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 2 minutes ago
The thing is, Spurs have been here before, Poch has not.
We have been in a great position in January in the past, failed to strengthen adequately in key areas and ultimately failed come the end of the season.
Poch has not been in that situation before, maybe he thinks he has enough cover, but I for one would not like to take that chance again.
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when we 'failed to strengthen adequately' we had Defoe, Pavlyuchenko & Adebayor, Bale and VDV.....blessed with attacking power and people think we should have bought a 4th strikerSaha was a perfectly adequate signing in the circumstances. Redknapp lost us our position through gross mismanagement. He paid the price.
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Where did I say strengthen with another striker
posted on 31/1/16
Rumours The Toon are prepared to bid 20m+ for Berahino, I can`t see Levy going higher than that, even if we are still interested.
posted on 31/1/16
The Dembele deal; his contract is up in the summer but he can sign a pre-contract agreement now with foreign clubs. Fulham are well within their rights to say "loan him back or no deal", and let him go on a free.
If the right player isn't out there right now then we might as well wait until the summer before going after a more senior striker. Not the ideal situation, but this isn't FIFA 16 where we can buy a quality striker right now and don't have to worry about whether they're cup-tied or having to integrate them to a new team/country/climate.
posted on 31/1/16
If this is true this seriously makes me mad as we have to play Fulham in a week or so.
posted on 31/1/16
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 2 minutes ago
The thing is, Spurs have been here before, Poch has not.
We have been in a great position in January in the past, failed to strengthen adequately in key areas and ultimately failed come the end of the season.
Poch has not been in that situation before, maybe he thinks he has enough cover, but I for one would not like to take that chance again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
when we 'failed to strengthen adequately' we had Defoe, Pavlyuchenko & Adebayor, Bale and VDV.....blessed with attacking power and people think we should have bought a 4th strikerSaha was a perfectly adequate signing in the circumstances. Redknapp lost us our position through gross mismanagement. He paid the price.
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Where did I say strengthen with another striker
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We brought in a CB and a FWD.....I could list our midfielders that season but have no time, save we had plenty ....of course you were referring to the Saha loan
posted on 31/1/16
Signing Saha was disappointing given who we were supposedly linked to in that transfer window. The most annoying thing about the Saha deal was that we left it late in the transfer window to bring him in. This was at a point where the strikers we had weren't in their best form. Ade had something like 1 goal in 7.
posted on 31/1/16
We missed a trick with the Pato loan signing. Would have been perfect and I'm sure we were linked with him last season
posted on 31/1/16
Pato? He's been playing on the left rather than as a striker. Besides that deal has all the hallmarks of the agent being at the heart of it - Joorabchian is also Ramires' agent, who they've just sold for £25m...
posted on 31/1/16
Pato doesn't interest me. Since that seemed to pave the way for Remy to leave, he would have been a worthy signing. Instead he's going to Leicester
posted on 31/1/16
I have never known a manager that does not want to improve his squad. The only restriction on a manager buying a player is the club's chairman/owner/board who impose spending restrictions.
Porch is towing the party line in public, but I am sure he had identified targets and its down to Daniel Levy to do deals (if he wants to). I am totally convinced that Levy believes he has the club's best interests at the forefront of his thoughts, but unfortunately his tendency towards brinksmanship regularly leaves us not achieving our objectives in the transfer market.
Let's see if anything develops over the next 24 hours, but the idea that Poch doesn't want another striker now is misguided IMO
posted on 31/1/16
Exactly how I feel Gezza. Well said.
posted on 31/1/16
I trust the scouts more than I have in the past and if they can't find anyone then I believe that their isn't anyone worth buying.
You have to look at the fact we are asking for a player to come in and sit on the bench just in case Kane gets injured!
Any young quality striker would not sign up to that
posted on 31/1/16
Poch might well want a striker now, but it could perhaps be the case that those he wants aren't attainable at the moment?
posted on 31/1/16
We also need a player to come in who is capable of standing in for or replacing Kane, not just to sit on the bench. There may come a time when Kane`s form drops off so much that he deserves to be dropped.
Kane will need a rest from time to time also, unless they expect him to start 50/60 games a season.
Kane also needs proper competition for his place to keep him on his toes, at the moment he is guaranteed to start almost every game.
posted on 31/1/16
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon: Football Manager legend (U20121)
posted 6 minutes ago
Poch might well want a striker now, but it could perhaps be the case that those he wants aren't attainable at the moment?
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As I said, a manager will always want to strengthen if he can. It's then down to the club to do the deals. Unless Poch has Messi, Ronaldo etc on his list, then I'm sure the others are attainable. But it's up to the powers that be if they want to make it happen. This is my point. Others are suggesting that Poch has made the decision not to buy a striker and I think this view is misguided.
posted on 31/1/16
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon: Football Manager legend (U20121)
posted 6 minutes ago
Poch might well want a striker now, but it could perhaps be the case that those he wants aren't attainable at the moment?
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As I said, a manager will always want to strengthen if he can. It's then down to the club to do the deals. Unless Poch has Messi, Ronaldo etc on his list, then I'm sure the others are attainable. But it's up to the powers that be if they want to make it happen. This is my point. Others are suggesting that Poch has made the decision not to buy a striker and I think this view is misguided.
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posted on 31/1/16
I he was happy to just strengthen the squad in terms of numbers, we would have made a move for Austin last Summer (available for much less than we were willing to pay for Berahino), and we would 100% have made a move for him at 4m this month, as even if we sold him in the Summer it'd be for at least double that, probably treble.
That points towards Poch wanting a particular striker or nothing. Something he himself as alluded to, and the reported snubbing of buying Austin would back up.
All speculation of course, but if we know anything about Poch it is that he is very idealistic, and won't play players he doesn't see fitting his system even if they are available to him.
posted on 31/1/16
Newcastle have bid 21 million for berahino
posted on 31/1/16
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 11 seconds ago
I he was happy to just strengthen the squad in terms of numbers, we would have made a move for Austin last Summer (available for much less than we were willing to pay for Berahino), and we would 100% have made a move for him at 4m this month, as even if we sold him in the Summer it'd be for at least double that, probably treble.
That points towards Poch wanting a particular striker or nothing. Something he himself as alluded to, and the reported snubbing of buying Austin would back up.
All speculation of course, but if we know anything about Poch it is that he is very idealistic, and won't play players he doesn't see fitting his system even if they are available to him.
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Maybe we'll have to agree to disagree! My opinion is that Poch has his targets. You (and others) seem to think he has made a decision on behalf of the club not to buy a striker who is available for the remainder of the season. As you say, it's all speculation....but I think I'm right!
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