comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is indisputable that racism exists worldwide and that police forces should be held accountable for the actions of their officers.
What is also indisputable is the common reaction of blame from the black community without any acceptance of responsibility. To suggest that prisons are full of Afro Americans because they are more likely to be sent to prison for their offences is one thing,to ignore the fact that the majority of those inmates are guilty and deserve custodial sentences is a fact.
Where are the spokespersons in London from the black community when almost weekly young black teens are attacking and stabbing or murdering each other? They have nothing to say.
We are told there is a problem with gangs in our inner city areas. Are these gangs made up of white or black kids? The sooner we address issues over here the better. The thought of being caught up in the violence in our parks while out with your family whatever race you are is a disgrace and a stain on the upbringing of these kids. Take some responsibility for aggressive actions and stop referring to issues from centuries ago,there has been a black president for 8 years so what further proof do you need that you can get ahead in life?
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some fair points but you have to ask why are American prisons predominatly crowded with balck peopel and other minorities.
For example if you get caught in America with a gram of powder cocaine you get one length of sentence however if you're caught with the same amount of crack cocaine it's three times as long, so young black and minority kids in the ghetto see selling drugs as the onyl way to get out, they see the guys on the corner in good clothes etc. and want some of that. Then they;re used by bigger dealers and if caught with onyl a few vials of crack they end up with 10 plus year prison sentences, however a kid with the same oamout of powder (a rich persons drug) they get far more leniant sentences if any.
So a minority youth is in and out of prison for minor drug offences cause they have very little chance of gettign money any other way, when they get out it's extremley difficult to get a job as an ex con and so they reoffend, and the cycle continues.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 11 seconds ago
For example Ethiopia was one of the biggest food suppliers once but we have seen it only in famine
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Surely that is more of a climate issue? any way onto another observation.
I was in Zimbabwe back in the mid 90's for about 3 months. They had a big issue (I believe it has only got worse since, but haven't paid much attention) with starvation and drought on the land.
What had happened was that Mugabe had seized most of the land back from the white farmers and given it back to the blacks. I have no problem with that myself, it was their land in the first place.
The issue was that the blacks had no idea how to farm it and how to irrigate the land when the rains didn't come, thus massive poverty sprang up in the streets of Harrare and Bulawayo.
As far as I am aware it is still going on today.
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You make a good point but its what happens behind the obvious that needs looking at, and tbh its something that doesn't just affect Africa.
What I mean is that even Britain got into trouble during WW2 and the USA came to its aid, an aid that had to be paid back and wasn't until fairly recently
Similarly countries like Ethiopia have places where the women grow asparagus for export but can't feed their own kids. Sure it may have started with climate but the help received wasn't to enable rather to subjugate for years
Mugabe is a good example too of a people who were in the main in subsistence agriculture but now can't farm, how did this happen?
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
For example Ethiopia was one of the biggest food suppliers once but we have seen it only in famine
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Surely that is more of a climate issue? any way onto another observation.
I was in Zimbabwe back in the mid 90's for about 3 months. They had a big issue (I believe it has only got worse since, but haven't paid much attention) with starvation and drought on the land.
What had happened was that Mugabe had seized most of the land back from the white farmers and given it back to the blacks. I have no problem with that myself, it was their land in the first place.
The issue was that the blacks had no idea how to farm it and how to irrigate the land when the rains didn't come, thus massive poverty sprang up in the streets of Harrare and Bulawayo.
As far as I am aware it is still going on today.
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That was in the 2000s and yes it's gotten worse. Ministers (and their cronies) take the land for themselves and do nothing with it and those who have been granted land can't use it or don't have the money to invest. Because there is none (well, I lie... there is money, it's just been stolen). But what makes it worse is that there is generally no investment in any industry / sector so most commodities are imported (thus available at a premium) and there are no jobs (I believe unemployment sits somewhere in the 90th percentile).
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The reference to Obama is another case in point. How much opposition has the man faced in his entire 2-term tenure? On the basis that he's black. He's had some successes, granted, and whilst he will go down as one of the most successful presidents in American history, imagine what he could have achieved if Republicans (in particular) weren't so hell bent on opposing him at every turn. Because he's a black man.
That's simply not true, he's faced constant opposition because he is balck, just not from the balc community until recently.
He is also not the most successful presidient in history although he has done some great things that in time will reflect well on him.
But white middle America has hated him from the start, I'm talkign white trash hillbillies not liberal left white people here.
But many leaders of the balck community are very anti Obama because they feel while he is black that was enough for him, he's actually done very little to help them bar Obama care.
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with regards to africa redd foxx, this is a good video https://www.facebook.com/raquellarnyoh/videos/10153926034713787/?pnref=story
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Thanks for that
Particularly liked the point about coloured paper being worth more than gold
Chit happens and happened, it was a different time so you move on. But arguments like " left good infrastructure" or "they would have starved" etc is B/S.
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Coloured paper, coloured metal, same same.
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Only if coloured beads are same same as land
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Not at all. With land you can sustain life. Gold and money have no real purpose to sustain life, only the imagined value it has. If I dug up 1m tonnes of gold in my garden it would be fu the market. I cant make land though.
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Land in itself doesn't sustain life its what you do with it that does. If its arable and you grow you eat.
Gold is a currency , Sonia the dollar. Gild is infinately better as a currency but the dollar is what we use today. If people reverted back to gold america would suffer.
Gaddafi and Saddam wanted to go back to gold and got taken out.
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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 6 minutes ago
how is Obama blackit would be akin to me calling my father black, when his father is berber and tbh he looks more black than Obama who has a white mother.
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If he identifies as black, he's black.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 6 minutes ago
The reference to Obama is another case in point. How much opposition has the man faced in his entire 2-term tenure? On the basis that he's black. He's had some successes, granted, and whilst he will go down as one of the most successful presidents in American history, imagine what he could have achieved if Republicans (in particular) weren't so hell bent on opposing him at every turn. Because he's a black man.
That's simply not true, he's faced constant opposition because he is balck, just not from the balc community until recently.
He is also not the most successful presidient in history although he has done some great things that in time will reflect well on him.
But white middle America has hated him from the start, I'm talkign white trash hillbillies not liberal left white people here.
But many leaders of the balck community are very anti Obama because they feel while he is black that was enough for him, he's actually done very little to help them bar Obama care.
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I said "one of the most successful".
And I specified the Republicans because I was talking about Congress, which the Republicans have a majority in... the people who actually block his initiatives. Let's be honest, the black community don't really have the power to do that. But you're right... on top of Congress, there is dissatisfaction with him within the black community. But again, I was referring specifically to him getting laws passed, whether they help black people specifically or not.
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posted 37 seconds ago
Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
is that how it works? so being 1/4 black, and if identify as black, i'm black? eventhough i'm half white, 1/4 berber?
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I'm not mixed race so I don't speak from my experience. And I also refuse to speak for someone who is. I leave it to that person to define themselves. Hence... if he identifies as black, he's black.
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posted 2 minutes ago
gold has many valuable uses, so does diamonds, in many industries... so it's valuable.
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Just the same that paper money is valuable. Gold and diamonds do have other uses but they are primarily used to trade.
To use a very clumsy scenario, if we lived in a post apocalyptic world, how much would gold be worth? The same as paper money. They are just means of trade.
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Not as simple as that tbh.
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with regards to africa redd foxx, this is a good video https://www.facebook.com/raquellarnyoh/videos/10153926034713787/?pnref=story
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Thanks for that
Particularly liked the point about coloured paper being worth more than gold
Chit happens and happened, it was a different time so you move on. But arguments like " left good infrastructure" or "they would have starved" etc is B/S.
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Coloured paper, coloured metal, same same.
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Only if coloured beads are same same as land
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Not at all. With land you can sustain life. Gold and money have no real purpose to sustain life, only the imagined value it has. If I dug up 1m tonnes of gold in my garden it would be fu the market. I cant make land though.
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Land in itself doesn't sustain life its what you do with it that does. If its arable and you grow you eat.
Gold is a currency , Sonia the dollar. Gild is infinately better as a currency but the dollar is what we use today. If people reverted back to gold america would suffer.
Gaddafi and Saddam wanted to go back to gold and got taken out.
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It is a dumb idea though isnt it? 7 billion people 171,000 tonnes of gold...
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Potentially no more slavery, less poverty, a more level playing field. Sounds like a plan to me
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 37 seconds ago
Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
is that how it works? so being 1/4 black, and if identify as black, i'm black? eventhough i'm half white, 1/4 berber?
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I'm not mixed race so I don't speak from my experience. And I also refuse to speak for someone who is. I leave it to that person to define themselves. Hence... if he identifies as black, he's black.
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And this is part of the problem. The need to define. Colour should be used for desciptive visible needs and no more.
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Isn't that what we're doing? How else are we using it?
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comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 24 minutes ago
It is indisputable that racism exists worldwide and that police forces should be held accountable for the actions of their officers.
What is also indisputable is the common reaction of blame from the black community without any acceptance of responsibility. To suggest that prisons are full of Afro Americans because they are more likely to be sent to prison for their offences is one thing,to ignore the fact that the majority of those inmates are guilty and deserve custodial sentences is a fact.
Where are the spokespersons in London from the black community when almost weekly young black teens are attacking and stabbing or murdering each other? They have nothing to say.
We are told there is a problem with gangs in our inner city areas. Are these gangs made up of white or black kids? The sooner we address issues over here the better. The thought of being caught up in the violence in our parks while out with your family whatever race you are is a disgrace and a stain on the upbringing of these kids. Take some responsibility for aggressive actions and stop referring to issues from centuries ago,there has been a black president for 8 years so what further proof do you need that you can get ahead in life?
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What you however missed is that crime and especially violent crimes as you've mentioned are all linked to poverty.
How many rich black people do you see commiting crime? likewise how many white people do you see commiting crimes?
In poor white areas there is a lot of crime just like in poor black areas
And when you have a system thats racist as it is in America, coupled with poor education, what chance do these guys have?
A black kid in high school caught smoking a spliff will be given a criminal record while a white kid will get a telling off. A black kid with a criminal record has almost no chance of getting a decent job thus resorts to crime.
You honestly believe anyone would sell drugs/steal etc if they could get a well paid job?
Its really messed up and i dont have the solutions but putting the blame on the victims is definitely not the solution
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posted 35 seconds ago
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posted 42 seconds ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 37 seconds ago
Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
is that how it works? so being 1/4 black, and if identify as black, i'm black? eventhough i'm half white, 1/4 berber?
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I'm not mixed race so I don't speak from my experience. And I also refuse to speak for someone who is. I leave it to that person to define themselves. Hence... if he identifies as black, he's black.
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And this is part of the problem. The need to define. Colour should be used for desciptive visible needs and no more.
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Isn't that what we're doing? How else are we using it?
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Would a president say he is bald? No, because it is irrelevant. Why does someone need to say they are black or white. It should be irrelevant, it IS irrelevant. Yet, many seem to need this categorisation.
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But he IS black. It's like when (if, though very likely "when" Hilary becomes president... she'll be the first female president of the States. It's just stating a fact.
But going back to Obama, he's opposed on the basis of him being black so to say his skin colour (however diluted) is irrelevant is wrong.
Okay, that wink came straight outta nowhere. Was meant to be a close bracket...
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comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is indisputable that racism exists worldwide and that police forces should be held accountable for the actions of their officers.
What is also indisputable is the common reaction of blame from the black community without any acceptance of responsibility. To suggest that prisons are full of Afro Americans because they are more likely to be sent to prison for their offences is one thing,to ignore the fact that the majority of those inmates are guilty and deserve custodial sentences is a fact.
Where are the spokespersons in London from the black community when almost weekly young black teens are attacking and stabbing or murdering each other? They have nothing to say.
We are told there is a problem with gangs in our inner city areas. Are these gangs made up of white or black kids? The sooner we address issues over here the better. The thought of being caught up in the violence in our parks while out with your family whatever race you are is a disgrace and a stain on the upbringing of these kids. Take some responsibility for aggressive actions and stop referring to issues from centuries ago,there has been a black president for 8 years so what further proof do you need that you can get ahead in life?
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some fair points but you have to ask why are American prisons predominatly crowded with balck peopel and other minorities.
For example if you get caught in America with a gram of powder cocaine you get one length of sentence however if you're caught with the same amount of crack cocaine it's three times as long, so young black and minority kids in the ghetto see selling drugs as the onyl way to get out, they see the guys on the corner in good clothes etc. and want some of that. Then they;re used by bigger dealers and if caught with onyl a few vials of crack they end up with 10 plus year prison sentences, however a kid with the same oamout of powder (a rich persons drug) they get far more leniant sentences if any.
So a minority youth is in and out of prison for minor drug offences cause they have very little chance of gettign money any other way, when they get out it's extremley difficult to get a job as an ex con and so they reoffend, and the cycle continues.
posted on 22/7/16
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 11 seconds ago
For example Ethiopia was one of the biggest food suppliers once but we have seen it only in famine
................
Surely that is more of a climate issue? any way onto another observation.
I was in Zimbabwe back in the mid 90's for about 3 months. They had a big issue (I believe it has only got worse since, but haven't paid much attention) with starvation and drought on the land.
What had happened was that Mugabe had seized most of the land back from the white farmers and given it back to the blacks. I have no problem with that myself, it was their land in the first place.
The issue was that the blacks had no idea how to farm it and how to irrigate the land when the rains didn't come, thus massive poverty sprang up in the streets of Harrare and Bulawayo.
As far as I am aware it is still going on today.
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You make a good point but its what happens behind the obvious that needs looking at, and tbh its something that doesn't just affect Africa.
What I mean is that even Britain got into trouble during WW2 and the USA came to its aid, an aid that had to be paid back and wasn't until fairly recently
Similarly countries like Ethiopia have places where the women grow asparagus for export but can't feed their own kids. Sure it may have started with climate but the help received wasn't to enable rather to subjugate for years
Mugabe is a good example too of a people who were in the main in subsistence agriculture but now can't farm, how did this happen?
posted on 22/7/16
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
For example Ethiopia was one of the biggest food suppliers once but we have seen it only in famine
................
Surely that is more of a climate issue? any way onto another observation.
I was in Zimbabwe back in the mid 90's for about 3 months. They had a big issue (I believe it has only got worse since, but haven't paid much attention) with starvation and drought on the land.
What had happened was that Mugabe had seized most of the land back from the white farmers and given it back to the blacks. I have no problem with that myself, it was their land in the first place.
The issue was that the blacks had no idea how to farm it and how to irrigate the land when the rains didn't come, thus massive poverty sprang up in the streets of Harrare and Bulawayo.
As far as I am aware it is still going on today.
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That was in the 2000s and yes it's gotten worse. Ministers (and their cronies) take the land for themselves and do nothing with it and those who have been granted land can't use it or don't have the money to invest. Because there is none (well, I lie... there is money, it's just been stolen). But what makes it worse is that there is generally no investment in any industry / sector so most commodities are imported (thus available at a premium) and there are no jobs (I believe unemployment sits somewhere in the 90th percentile).
posted on 22/7/16
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posted on 22/7/16
The reference to Obama is another case in point. How much opposition has the man faced in his entire 2-term tenure? On the basis that he's black. He's had some successes, granted, and whilst he will go down as one of the most successful presidents in American history, imagine what he could have achieved if Republicans (in particular) weren't so hell bent on opposing him at every turn. Because he's a black man.
That's simply not true, he's faced constant opposition because he is balck, just not from the balc community until recently.
He is also not the most successful presidient in history although he has done some great things that in time will reflect well on him.
But white middle America has hated him from the start, I'm talkign white trash hillbillies not liberal left white people here.
But many leaders of the balck community are very anti Obama because they feel while he is black that was enough for him, he's actually done very little to help them bar Obama care.
posted on 22/7/16
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 9 minutes ago
with regards to africa redd foxx, this is a good video https://www.facebook.com/raquellarnyoh/videos/10153926034713787/?pnref=story
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Thanks for that
Particularly liked the point about coloured paper being worth more than gold
Chit happens and happened, it was a different time so you move on. But arguments like " left good infrastructure" or "they would have starved" etc is B/S.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Coloured paper, coloured metal, same same.
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Only if coloured beads are same same as land
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Not at all. With land you can sustain life. Gold and money have no real purpose to sustain life, only the imagined value it has. If I dug up 1m tonnes of gold in my garden it would be fu the market. I cant make land though.
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Land in itself doesn't sustain life its what you do with it that does. If its arable and you grow you eat.
Gold is a currency , Sonia the dollar. Gild is infinately better as a currency but the dollar is what we use today. If people reverted back to gold america would suffer.
Gaddafi and Saddam wanted to go back to gold and got taken out.
posted on 22/7/16
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posted on 22/7/16
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 6 minutes ago
how is Obama blackit would be akin to me calling my father black, when his father is berber and tbh he looks more black than Obama who has a white mother.
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If he identifies as black, he's black.
posted on 22/7/16
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 6 minutes ago
The reference to Obama is another case in point. How much opposition has the man faced in his entire 2-term tenure? On the basis that he's black. He's had some successes, granted, and whilst he will go down as one of the most successful presidents in American history, imagine what he could have achieved if Republicans (in particular) weren't so hell bent on opposing him at every turn. Because he's a black man.
That's simply not true, he's faced constant opposition because he is balck, just not from the balc community until recently.
He is also not the most successful presidient in history although he has done some great things that in time will reflect well on him.
But white middle America has hated him from the start, I'm talkign white trash hillbillies not liberal left white people here.
But many leaders of the balck community are very anti Obama because they feel while he is black that was enough for him, he's actually done very little to help them bar Obama care.
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I said "one of the most successful".
And I specified the Republicans because I was talking about Congress, which the Republicans have a majority in... the people who actually block his initiatives. Let's be honest, the black community don't really have the power to do that. But you're right... on top of Congress, there is dissatisfaction with him within the black community. But again, I was referring specifically to him getting laws passed, whether they help black people specifically or not.
posted on 22/7/16
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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 37 seconds ago
Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
is that how it works? so being 1/4 black, and if identify as black, i'm black? eventhough i'm half white, 1/4 berber?
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I'm not mixed race so I don't speak from my experience. And I also refuse to speak for someone who is. I leave it to that person to define themselves. Hence... if he identifies as black, he's black.
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posted on 22/7/16
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 2 minutes ago
gold has many valuable uses, so does diamonds, in many industries... so it's valuable.
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Just the same that paper money is valuable. Gold and diamonds do have other uses but they are primarily used to trade.
To use a very clumsy scenario, if we lived in a post apocalyptic world, how much would gold be worth? The same as paper money. They are just means of trade.
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Not as simple as that tbh.
posted on 22/7/16
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posted on 22/7/16
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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 9 minutes ago
with regards to africa redd foxx, this is a good video https://www.facebook.com/raquellarnyoh/videos/10153926034713787/?pnref=story
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Thanks for that
Particularly liked the point about coloured paper being worth more than gold
Chit happens and happened, it was a different time so you move on. But arguments like " left good infrastructure" or "they would have starved" etc is B/S.
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Coloured paper, coloured metal, same same.
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Only if coloured beads are same same as land
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Not at all. With land you can sustain life. Gold and money have no real purpose to sustain life, only the imagined value it has. If I dug up 1m tonnes of gold in my garden it would be fu the market. I cant make land though.
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Land in itself doesn't sustain life its what you do with it that does. If its arable and you grow you eat.
Gold is a currency , Sonia the dollar. Gild is infinately better as a currency but the dollar is what we use today. If people reverted back to gold america would suffer.
Gaddafi and Saddam wanted to go back to gold and got taken out.
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It is a dumb idea though isnt it? 7 billion people 171,000 tonnes of gold...
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Potentially no more slavery, less poverty, a more level playing field. Sounds like a plan to me
posted on 22/7/16
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 37 seconds ago
Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
is that how it works? so being 1/4 black, and if identify as black, i'm black? eventhough i'm half white, 1/4 berber?
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I'm not mixed race so I don't speak from my experience. And I also refuse to speak for someone who is. I leave it to that person to define themselves. Hence... if he identifies as black, he's black.
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And this is part of the problem. The need to define. Colour should be used for desciptive visible needs and no more.
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Isn't that what we're doing? How else are we using it?
posted on 22/7/16
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posted on 22/7/16
comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 24 minutes ago
It is indisputable that racism exists worldwide and that police forces should be held accountable for the actions of their officers.
What is also indisputable is the common reaction of blame from the black community without any acceptance of responsibility. To suggest that prisons are full of Afro Americans because they are more likely to be sent to prison for their offences is one thing,to ignore the fact that the majority of those inmates are guilty and deserve custodial sentences is a fact.
Where are the spokespersons in London from the black community when almost weekly young black teens are attacking and stabbing or murdering each other? They have nothing to say.
We are told there is a problem with gangs in our inner city areas. Are these gangs made up of white or black kids? The sooner we address issues over here the better. The thought of being caught up in the violence in our parks while out with your family whatever race you are is a disgrace and a stain on the upbringing of these kids. Take some responsibility for aggressive actions and stop referring to issues from centuries ago,there has been a black president for 8 years so what further proof do you need that you can get ahead in life?
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What you however missed is that crime and especially violent crimes as you've mentioned are all linked to poverty.
How many rich black people do you see commiting crime? likewise how many white people do you see commiting crimes?
In poor white areas there is a lot of crime just like in poor black areas
And when you have a system thats racist as it is in America, coupled with poor education, what chance do these guys have?
A black kid in high school caught smoking a spliff will be given a criminal record while a white kid will get a telling off. A black kid with a criminal record has almost no chance of getting a decent job thus resorts to crime.
You honestly believe anyone would sell drugs/steal etc if they could get a well paid job?
Its really messed up and i dont have the solutions but putting the blame on the victims is definitely not the solution
posted on 22/7/16
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
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comment by Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
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comment by Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
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comment by United we win (U19958)
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Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
is that how it works? so being 1/4 black, and if identify as black, i'm black? eventhough i'm half white, 1/4 berber?
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I'm not mixed race so I don't speak from my experience. And I also refuse to speak for someone who is. I leave it to that person to define themselves. Hence... if he identifies as black, he's black.
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And this is part of the problem. The need to define. Colour should be used for desciptive visible needs and no more.
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Isn't that what we're doing? How else are we using it?
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Would a president say he is bald? No, because it is irrelevant. Why does someone need to say they are black or white. It should be irrelevant, it IS irrelevant. Yet, many seem to need this categorisation.
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But he IS black. It's like when (if, though very likely "when" Hilary becomes president... she'll be the first female president of the States. It's just stating a fact.
But going back to Obama, he's opposed on the basis of him being black so to say his skin colour (however diluted) is irrelevant is wrong.
posted on 22/7/16
Okay, that wink came straight outta nowhere. Was meant to be a close bracket...
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