comment by The Phenom - Thread Killer (U20037)
posted 44 minutes ago
Herrera
Mkhitaryan Pogba
Rashford Zlatan Martial
looks so good on paper
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attacking wise yes, defensively, youd have the same thing as you did against city
That and the fact that he kept getting pushed off the ball to easily.
That would be a foul in the German league but in the prem the refs let it go.
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Perhaps and again Rooney playing 10 hindered him, Kagawa would have thrived as a 10 he was no way a wide player and thats where he struggled as you said with the physical side.
I look at De Bruyne and Silva and neither are great physically but make up for it with other attributes.
I don't think Rooney hindered him. Rooney was better than him.
When they actually played together, which was rare they were very good indeed.
I don't think Rooney hindered him. Rooney was better than him.
When they actually played together, which was rare they were very good indeed.
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Rooney I guess was contributing more at that time than he is now, I remember Nani not getting game time either as we all looked forward to seeing him and Kagawa in the same side with RVP which I think happened once.
I hope Jose figures it out I really dont want us long balling when we have spent insane amounts of money.
I think what we will see over the coming PL games is Rooney out on the right and a:
------CM-------
---CM, CM----
formation start to get used.
I think what we will see over the coming PL games is Rooney out on the right and a:
------CM-------
---CM, CM----
formation start to get used.
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If thats the case Rooney will give Mourinho to a reason to drop him. On Saturday we were screaming for Rooney to be dropped and Martial to play out wide, instead we had Valencia and Rooney on the right side neither of them having a clue what to do.
----------------------------------------- Blind
---------------------------- Herrera ----------- Pogba
Miki/Mata/Lingard --------------------------------Martial/Rashford
----------------------------------- Zlatan/Rashford
Can swap in MS, Carrick or BS for the others depending on oppositions but that would be the best selection.
If thats the case Rooney will give Mourinho to a reason to drop him. On Saturday we were screaming for Rooney to be dropped and Martial to play out wide, instead we had Valencia and Rooney on the right side neither of them having a clue what to do.
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Martial has never looked any better on the right either.
If Rooney does start taking that role (remember it is not a winger role, but an inside forward who can move about) his competition will be Lingard and Mata.
Martial has never looked any better on the right either.
If Rooney does start taking that role (remember it is not a winger role, but an inside forward who can move about) his competition will be Lingard and Mata.
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Well on the left and Rashford on the right, anything to add pace to the team.
Martial looked good and faded but has all the tools to be brilliant like last season, put it this way I could offer more than Rooney is at the moment, pains me to see him holding us back so much.
Rashford has never looked good their either!
Better just to stop worrying about rooney and start hoping that one of the squad players, or the likes of Pogba, put in a performance in a Rooney position that makes José think.
Rooney, Martial, Pogba, Mkhi, Lingard, even Zlatan have all been under par over the course of full games.... We need players to step up, not just focus on one villain to take the blame for all.
Rashford has never looked good their either!
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No but they have the pace to play out wide which wastes Rooney playing there anyway, besides they have to work around Ibra who wont be dropped and rightly so having scored 4 goals so far. I would rather see the young boys playing than not at all as they would offer more out wide than Rooney would.
Martial has literately done nothing, this season, so I wont be too keen to shoehorn him in or move Rashy just to accommodate him.
As of now.. Rashy plays on the left. He is the most in form. He shouldn't be moved around to accommodate a player who has yet to do anything this season (Martial) and more than X player should be moved to accommodate Rooney.
Anyway... Thursdays game is a chance for players to stake their claim... Let's hope some do.
Martial has literately done nothing, this season, so I wont be too keen to shoehorn him in or move Rashy just to accommodate him.
As of now.. Rashy plays on the left. He is the most in form. He shouldn't be moved around to accommodate a player who has yet to do anything this season (Martial) and more than X player should be moved to accommodate Rooney.
Anyway... Thursdays game is a chance for players to stake their claim... Let's hope some do.
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Martial had a very productive game against Bournemouth and with more starts will get better, dont forget he was poor at the Euro's and can only get better, Rooney however wont, ever again probably.
But yes would be good to see the fringe players showing some hunger Thursday with the hope they can come into the first team.
Pogba needs a new midfield partner first and foremost imo. Preferably a DM.
I am baffled by the decision to pick Fellaini over Carrick, Bastian or even Morgan. I am even more baffled that people seem to think Fellaini has been great this season.
I agree that Roo is a problem for us but he isn't the biggest problem at the moment. Against City we lost the midfield battle and it cost us the match.
I am not specifically blaming Felly for the result, just the midfield system in general. He is the wrong type of player to partner Pogba imo.
I am baffled by the decision to pick Fellaini over Carrick, Bastian or even Morgan.
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I think everyone is, apart from the odd poster.
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posted on 13/9/16
comment by The Phenom - Thread Killer (U20037)
posted 44 minutes ago
Herrera
Mkhitaryan Pogba
Rashford Zlatan Martial
looks so good on paper
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attacking wise yes, defensively, youd have the same thing as you did against city
posted on 13/9/16
That and the fact that he kept getting pushed off the ball to easily.
That would be a foul in the German league but in the prem the refs let it go.
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Perhaps and again Rooney playing 10 hindered him, Kagawa would have thrived as a 10 he was no way a wide player and thats where he struggled as you said with the physical side.
I look at De Bruyne and Silva and neither are great physically but make up for it with other attributes.
posted on 13/9/16
I don't think Rooney hindered him. Rooney was better than him.
When they actually played together, which was rare they were very good indeed.
posted on 13/9/16
I don't think Rooney hindered him. Rooney was better than him.
When they actually played together, which was rare they were very good indeed.
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Rooney I guess was contributing more at that time than he is now, I remember Nani not getting game time either as we all looked forward to seeing him and Kagawa in the same side with RVP which I think happened once.
I hope Jose figures it out I really dont want us long balling when we have spent insane amounts of money.
posted on 13/9/16
I think what we will see over the coming PL games is Rooney out on the right and a:
------CM-------
---CM, CM----
formation start to get used.
posted on 13/9/16
I think what we will see over the coming PL games is Rooney out on the right and a:
------CM-------
---CM, CM----
formation start to get used.
----
If thats the case Rooney will give Mourinho to a reason to drop him. On Saturday we were screaming for Rooney to be dropped and Martial to play out wide, instead we had Valencia and Rooney on the right side neither of them having a clue what to do.
posted on 13/9/16
----------------------------------------- Blind
---------------------------- Herrera ----------- Pogba
Miki/Mata/Lingard --------------------------------Martial/Rashford
----------------------------------- Zlatan/Rashford
Can swap in MS, Carrick or BS for the others depending on oppositions but that would be the best selection.
posted on 13/9/16
If thats the case Rooney will give Mourinho to a reason to drop him. On Saturday we were screaming for Rooney to be dropped and Martial to play out wide, instead we had Valencia and Rooney on the right side neither of them having a clue what to do.
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Martial has never looked any better on the right either.
If Rooney does start taking that role (remember it is not a winger role, but an inside forward who can move about) his competition will be Lingard and Mata.
posted on 13/9/16
Martial has never looked any better on the right either.
If Rooney does start taking that role (remember it is not a winger role, but an inside forward who can move about) his competition will be Lingard and Mata.
----
Well on the left and Rashford on the right, anything to add pace to the team.
Martial looked good and faded but has all the tools to be brilliant like last season, put it this way I could offer more than Rooney is at the moment, pains me to see him holding us back so much.
posted on 13/9/16
Rashford has never looked good their either!
Better just to stop worrying about rooney and start hoping that one of the squad players, or the likes of Pogba, put in a performance in a Rooney position that makes José think.
Rooney, Martial, Pogba, Mkhi, Lingard, even Zlatan have all been under par over the course of full games.... We need players to step up, not just focus on one villain to take the blame for all.
posted on 13/9/16
Rashford has never looked good their either!
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No but they have the pace to play out wide which wastes Rooney playing there anyway, besides they have to work around Ibra who wont be dropped and rightly so having scored 4 goals so far. I would rather see the young boys playing than not at all as they would offer more out wide than Rooney would.
posted on 13/9/16
Martial has literately done nothing, this season, so I wont be too keen to shoehorn him in or move Rashy just to accommodate him.
As of now.. Rashy plays on the left. He is the most in form. He shouldn't be moved around to accommodate a player who has yet to do anything this season (Martial) and more than X player should be moved to accommodate Rooney.
Anyway... Thursdays game is a chance for players to stake their claim... Let's hope some do.
posted on 13/9/16
Martial has literately done nothing, this season, so I wont be too keen to shoehorn him in or move Rashy just to accommodate him.
As of now.. Rashy plays on the left. He is the most in form. He shouldn't be moved around to accommodate a player who has yet to do anything this season (Martial) and more than X player should be moved to accommodate Rooney.
Anyway... Thursdays game is a chance for players to stake their claim... Let's hope some do.
---
Martial had a very productive game against Bournemouth and with more starts will get better, dont forget he was poor at the Euro's and can only get better, Rooney however wont, ever again probably.
But yes would be good to see the fringe players showing some hunger Thursday with the hope they can come into the first team.
posted on 13/9/16
Pogba needs a new midfield partner first and foremost imo. Preferably a DM.
I am baffled by the decision to pick Fellaini over Carrick, Bastian or even Morgan. I am even more baffled that people seem to think Fellaini has been great this season.
I agree that Roo is a problem for us but he isn't the biggest problem at the moment. Against City we lost the midfield battle and it cost us the match.
I am not specifically blaming Felly for the result, just the midfield system in general. He is the wrong type of player to partner Pogba imo.
posted on 13/9/16
I am baffled by the decision to pick Fellaini over Carrick, Bastian or even Morgan.
...................
I think everyone is, apart from the odd poster.
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