Maybe if the fans concede the fact that results will come before play, you might support your managers more.
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Will happily concede the point, but the results aren't forthcoming.
Some might have entertained other ideas initially because they hoped Mourinho would adapt his approach to his new employers. Most fans concede it's going to be results before play, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll embrace the idea. It isn't esy when your club for the best part has a tradition of daring, attacking football.
To be honest, the media are hypocrits.
When Mourinho defends a 1-0 its negative, when the Italian national side do it, its a tactical masterclass.
For me, the biggest problem United have is that they've appointed a manager who exhibits all the wrong attributes for a club with a recognised ethos.
Can the fans accept such a change in image ?
Utd fans should have known what they were in for. In terms of style, what else did they expect.
Can the fans accept such a change in image ?
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Metro,
I believe that right now the fans would accept any change that gets us back in contention for league and champions league titles.
Metro & Lambeau (Flash?):
You'll always have divided opinion.
"Right now" is the operative term. Most would accept it short term, more would probably oppose it in the longer run. Once the trophies start flowing again (if they do), there'll come a time when they demand more.
I believe that right now the fans would accept any change that gets us back in contention for league and champions league titles.
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I agree tbh. When your team is winning then you're happy.
Having said that, remember when West Ham won at Upton Park during Allardyces reign and the fans still booed due to the standard of football?
U remember Shen UTD played arsenal away, Rooney and Ronaldo destroyed them on the break!
I think that's the last time I saw a utd team play properly, since den it's been laboured sideways passing , and team now just sit and wait to catch you on the break
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/lazy-man-united-jose-mourinhos-8867582#rlabs=1%20rt$category%20p$6
I reckon under LVG we were top or in top 4 easily of distance covered. I knew under Mourinho we would go from an aggressive pressing team to a team that plays from deeper and go for counter attack. Least distance covered. Thats why I don't like Mourinho teams as they are very passive.
Metro I think the poster above (Mouriho etc) hit the nail on the head. At the moment the expectation is low, so we'll tolerate more if it gets us back to winning titles. Once (if) that becomes the norm then there's likely to be a shift - look at City fans wanting to oust Pellegrini when he was winning titles. There needs to be a balance between style and success to keep fans universally happy otherwise there will always be some dissent.
I reckon under LVG we were top or in top 4 easily of distance covered.
not a hope
RedMen7 our 11/12 team despite not winning anything major were so gung ho it was incredible. The days when we peppered the goal like crazy.
I reckon under LVG we were top or in top 4 easily of distance covered.
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Even if that were true, a fat lot of good it did us.
Football today is about attacking pace. Whether thats counter attacking like Leicester or moving the ball quickly and pressing like City, that's what successful teams are built on these days.
We lack any kind of style or pace, it's very pedestrian, very sideways.
We never had a style with Jose second time around. It was pretty much sht football plus Hazard trickery.
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 4 minutes ago
RedMen7 our 11/12 team despite not winning anything major were so gung ho it was incredible. The days when we peppered the goal like crazy.
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sure didn't you do the same under LVG according to your stats
Indeed Busby.
Take Shaw form yesterday. I can't remember him once bombing down the wing or once taking a player on.
All he did was get out wide in a good position and then pass of inside to a midfielder. There is no point passing to him at all if that is all he is going to do.
Are Liverpool and city destroying UTD....
by RedMen7 (U8888) 19 September 2016
Confidence!
I don't mean in terms of money's or points on the board, but in attacking play.
I just think that maybe your fans and club are comparing the style of play and thinking your are under performing, to be honest Jose will win your silverware but he'll be defensive along the way.
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Out of interest what is your take on the "Wenger Out" fans?
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 4 minutes ago
I reckon under LVG we were top or in top 4 easily of distance covered.
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Even if that were true, a fat lot of good it did us.
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It's so obviously not true
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
Indeed Busby.
Take Shaw form yesterday. I can't remember him once bombing down the wing or once taking a player on.
All he did was get out wide in a good position and then pass of inside to a midfielder. There is no point passing to him at all if that is all he is going to do.
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Which is incredibly frustrating as we saw him doing it prior to his injury last season.
I just can't understand why Jose didn't buy a DM. He's had one his whole career, from Makalele, to Cambiasso to Matic. It makes no sense.
Apparently he tried to sign Kante, so why didn't we go for another? This should free up the likes of Shaw and Pogba to do their thing without worrying too much.
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4. Manchester United (112.89km): United's woeful season has seen them spend much of the campaign without the ball, therefore leading to a lot more running around than those at Old Trafford are used to [Man Utd via Getty Images]
This is what ABU media saying opposite to reality. I like how they said much of the campaigh without the ball.
http://www.express.co.uk/pictures/galleries/4860/Which-team-covered-most-distance-Premier-League-2016-sportgalleries/Manchester-United-108500
That was March 1st 2016 updated. I sometimes wonder if any pundit or media watched Man Utd under LVG as they made stuff up completely opposite to reality.
I just can't understand why Jose didn't buy a DM. He's had one his whole career, from Makalele, to Cambiasso to Matic. It makes no sense.
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He tried to get Matic in a cash plus Darmien deal - got knocked back.
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 22 seconds ago
8 of 12
4. Manchester United (112.89km): United's woeful season has seen them spend much of the campaign without the ball, therefore leading to a lot more running around than those at Old Trafford are used to [Man Utd via Getty Images]
This is what ABU media saying opposite to reality. I like how they said much of the campaigh without the ball.
http://www.express.co.uk/pictures/galleries/4860/Which-team-covered-most-distance-Premier-League-2016-sportgalleries/Manchester-United-108500
That was March 1st 2016 updated. I sometimes wonder if any pundit or media watched Man Utd under LVG as they made stuff up completely opposite to reality.
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like you do?
Just checked only Arsenal had more possession then Man Utd last season and Man Utd had most territorial possession 2 seasons in a row under LVG.
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 25 seconds ago
Just checked only Arsenal had more possession then Man Utd last season and Man Utd had most territorial possession 2 seasons in a row under LVG.
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posted on 19/9/16
Maybe if the fans concede the fact that results will come before play, you might support your managers more.
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Will happily concede the point, but the results aren't forthcoming.
posted on 19/9/16
Some might have entertained other ideas initially because they hoped Mourinho would adapt his approach to his new employers. Most fans concede it's going to be results before play, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll embrace the idea. It isn't esy when your club for the best part has a tradition of daring, attacking football.
posted on 19/9/16
To be honest, the media are hypocrits.
When Mourinho defends a 1-0 its negative, when the Italian national side do it, its a tactical masterclass.
For me, the biggest problem United have is that they've appointed a manager who exhibits all the wrong attributes for a club with a recognised ethos.
Can the fans accept such a change in image ?
posted on 19/9/16
Utd fans should have known what they were in for. In terms of style, what else did they expect.
posted on 19/9/16
Can the fans accept such a change in image ?
-
Metro,
I believe that right now the fans would accept any change that gets us back in contention for league and champions league titles.
posted on 19/9/16
Metro & Lambeau (Flash?):
You'll always have divided opinion.
"Right now" is the operative term. Most would accept it short term, more would probably oppose it in the longer run. Once the trophies start flowing again (if they do), there'll come a time when they demand more.
posted on 19/9/16
I believe that right now the fans would accept any change that gets us back in contention for league and champions league titles.
-----
I agree tbh. When your team is winning then you're happy.
Having said that, remember when West Ham won at Upton Park during Allardyces reign and the fans still booed due to the standard of football?
posted on 19/9/16
U remember Shen UTD played arsenal away, Rooney and Ronaldo destroyed them on the break!
I think that's the last time I saw a utd team play properly, since den it's been laboured sideways passing , and team now just sit and wait to catch you on the break
posted on 19/9/16
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/lazy-man-united-jose-mourinhos-8867582#rlabs=1%20rt$category%20p$6
I reckon under LVG we were top or in top 4 easily of distance covered. I knew under Mourinho we would go from an aggressive pressing team to a team that plays from deeper and go for counter attack. Least distance covered. Thats why I don't like Mourinho teams as they are very passive.
posted on 19/9/16
Metro I think the poster above (Mouriho etc) hit the nail on the head. At the moment the expectation is low, so we'll tolerate more if it gets us back to winning titles. Once (if) that becomes the norm then there's likely to be a shift - look at City fans wanting to oust Pellegrini when he was winning titles. There needs to be a balance between style and success to keep fans universally happy otherwise there will always be some dissent.
posted on 19/9/16
I reckon under LVG we were top or in top 4 easily of distance covered.
not a hope
posted on 19/9/16
RedMen7 our 11/12 team despite not winning anything major were so gung ho it was incredible. The days when we peppered the goal like crazy.
posted on 19/9/16
I reckon under LVG we were top or in top 4 easily of distance covered.
-
Even if that were true, a fat lot of good it did us.
posted on 19/9/16
Football today is about attacking pace. Whether thats counter attacking like Leicester or moving the ball quickly and pressing like City, that's what successful teams are built on these days.
We lack any kind of style or pace, it's very pedestrian, very sideways.
posted on 19/9/16
We never had a style with Jose second time around. It was pretty much sht football plus Hazard trickery.
posted on 19/9/16
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 4 minutes ago
RedMen7 our 11/12 team despite not winning anything major were so gung ho it was incredible. The days when we peppered the goal like crazy.
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sure didn't you do the same under LVG according to your stats
posted on 19/9/16
Indeed Busby.
Take Shaw form yesterday. I can't remember him once bombing down the wing or once taking a player on.
All he did was get out wide in a good position and then pass of inside to a midfielder. There is no point passing to him at all if that is all he is going to do.
posted on 19/9/16
Are Liverpool and city destroying UTD....
by RedMen7 (U8888) 19 September 2016
Confidence!
I don't mean in terms of money's or points on the board, but in attacking play.
I just think that maybe your fans and club are comparing the style of play and thinking your are under performing, to be honest Jose will win your silverware but he'll be defensive along the way.
----------------------
Out of interest what is your take on the "Wenger Out" fans?
posted on 19/9/16
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 4 minutes ago
I reckon under LVG we were top or in top 4 easily of distance covered.
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Even if that were true, a fat lot of good it did us.
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It's so obviously not true
posted on 19/9/16
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
Indeed Busby.
Take Shaw form yesterday. I can't remember him once bombing down the wing or once taking a player on.
All he did was get out wide in a good position and then pass of inside to a midfielder. There is no point passing to him at all if that is all he is going to do.
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Which is incredibly frustrating as we saw him doing it prior to his injury last season.
I just can't understand why Jose didn't buy a DM. He's had one his whole career, from Makalele, to Cambiasso to Matic. It makes no sense.
Apparently he tried to sign Kante, so why didn't we go for another? This should free up the likes of Shaw and Pogba to do their thing without worrying too much.
posted on 19/9/16
8 of 12
4. Manchester United (112.89km): United's woeful season has seen them spend much of the campaign without the ball, therefore leading to a lot more running around than those at Old Trafford are used to [Man Utd via Getty Images]
This is what ABU media saying opposite to reality. I like how they said much of the campaigh without the ball.
http://www.express.co.uk/pictures/galleries/4860/Which-team-covered-most-distance-Premier-League-2016-sportgalleries/Manchester-United-108500
That was March 1st 2016 updated. I sometimes wonder if any pundit or media watched Man Utd under LVG as they made stuff up completely opposite to reality.
posted on 19/9/16
I just can't understand why Jose didn't buy a DM. He's had one his whole career, from Makalele, to Cambiasso to Matic. It makes no sense.
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He tried to get Matic in a cash plus Darmien deal - got knocked back.
posted on 19/9/16
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 22 seconds ago
8 of 12
4. Manchester United (112.89km): United's woeful season has seen them spend much of the campaign without the ball, therefore leading to a lot more running around than those at Old Trafford are used to [Man Utd via Getty Images]
This is what ABU media saying opposite to reality. I like how they said much of the campaigh without the ball.
http://www.express.co.uk/pictures/galleries/4860/Which-team-covered-most-distance-Premier-League-2016-sportgalleries/Manchester-United-108500
That was March 1st 2016 updated. I sometimes wonder if any pundit or media watched Man Utd under LVG as they made stuff up completely opposite to reality.
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like you do?
posted on 19/9/16
Just checked only Arsenal had more possession then Man Utd last season and Man Utd had most territorial possession 2 seasons in a row under LVG.
posted on 19/9/16
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 25 seconds ago
Just checked only Arsenal had more possession then Man Utd last season and Man Utd had most territorial possession 2 seasons in a row under LVG.
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