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posted on 18/10/16

DT’s hostility towards NATO, and disregard for the Geneva Convention, (advocating war crimes) was certainly a dog whistle to extremism.

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 18/10/16

not sure if electoral fraud is possible but they are trying to rig the election via the media by manipulating opinion. Hillary is funded by all the dirty industries that make a shiitload of money at the expense of the average American.

posted on 18/10/16

I think one of the things concerning the media, certainly in the US, is the fact that Wikileaks want to get Trump in the White House.
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As does Putin and IS. He’s a recruitment dream for them.

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And to me, this is why people are seeing Clinton as the lesser of two evils. On top of all of Trumps other baggage.

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 18/10/16

Why is it so bad if Trump gets along with Putin? we're heading to WW3 already with the way things are going atm.

posted on 18/10/16

I honestly couldn't give a flying sheet if Hilary Clinton herself ordered people to be planted at Trump rallies to cause trouble. I would still vote for her if I were eligible to do so.

Because there is a very, very simple bottom line here. POTUS is the still the most prominent and important post in world politics. And Trump cannot be allowed to fill it.

He is a bigot, a misogynist, a racist, and a xenophobe. He is completely inexperienced in and ill-educated on matters of national and global politics. He is rash, brazen and inconsistent. He is completely unqualified. He would be an unmitigated disaster for the US and wider world.

Full stop.

posted on 18/10/16

not sure if electoral fraud is possible but they are trying to rig the election via the media by manipulating opinion.

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Maybe Trump should come up with some policies instead of insulting everyone. You know, give the media something to support him on.

posted on 18/10/16

8bit

But Trump has stated the media are involved in electoral fraud.

posted on 18/10/16

comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
not sure if electoral fraud is possible but they are trying to rig the election via the media by manipulating opinion. Hillary is funded by all the dirty industries that make a shiitload of money at the expense of the average American.
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Pretty heavy accusations there regarding manipulating public opinions. The major news outlets are mostly left leaning here so to prove there is an electoral fraud will be very difficult.

Hillary being funded by the shady corporations and what not is true, but they can't seem to get anything to stick on her. There was an article out from one of the overseas outlet that proves that the Saudis are funding her campaign but nothing has happened so far...

posted on 18/10/16

comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
I honestly couldn't give a flying sheet if Hilary Clinton herself ordered people to be planted at Trump rallies to cause trouble. I would still vote for her if I were eligible to do so.

Because there is a very, very simple bottom line here. POTUS is the still the most prominent and important post in world politics. And Trump cannot be allowed to fill it.

He is a bigot, a misogynist, a racist, and a xenophobe. He is completely inexperienced in and ill-educated on matters of national and global politics. He is rash, brazen and inconsistent. He is completely unqualified. He would be an unmitigated disaster for the US and wider world.

Full stop.
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It really is that simple.

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 18/10/16

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
not sure if electoral fraud is possible but they are trying to rig the election via the media by manipulating opinion.

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Maybe Trump should come up with some policies instead of insulting everyone. You know, give the media something to support him on.
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I reckon he has a better chance of winning by sticking to the anti establishment narrative tbh that everyone is against him than by trying to become more like a normal politician. He is a smart dude every step of the way people have said he has no chance or written him off after each controversy but he's still there.

posted on 18/10/16

There was an article out from one of the overseas outlet that proves that the Saudis are funding her campaign but nothing has happened so far...

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IMO this is because it isn't as radical as anything Trump is coming up with.

For every bad thing people are finding about Clinton, they are finding worse about Trump. And most of it was already known about Clinton.

posted on 18/10/16

I reckon he has a better chance of winning by sticking to the anti establishment narrative tbh

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But he isn't. That's his problem.

In the last debate, he chose to attack Bill Clinton instead.

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 18/10/16

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 16 minutes ago
8bit

But Trump has stated the media are involved in electoral fraud.
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Depends if he was referring to media bias or the polling booths being rigged. The latter I doubt that is possible but I'm not sure how it works. I don't agree with everything he says just like you don't agree with everything from Clinton.

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 18/10/16

comment by Freedom FC (Welcome to Texas) (U7214)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
not sure if electoral fraud is possible but they are trying to rig the election via the media by manipulating opinion. Hillary is funded by all the dirty industries that make a shiitload of money at the expense of the average American.
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Pretty heavy accusations there regarding manipulating public opinions. The major news outlets are mostly left leaning here so to prove there is an electoral fraud will be very difficult.

Hillary being funded by the shady corporations and what not is true, but they can't seem to get anything to stick on her. There was an article out from one of the overseas outlet that proves that the Saudis are funding her campaign but nothing has happened so far...
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Forgot about the Saudis, people are worried about Trump/Putin but have no issue with Saudi being our allies. Very little in the media about what they're doing in Yemen... we need to protect our arms sales to them and the oil trade

posted on 18/10/16

Except the Saudis are doing us no favors on the oil trade front...

posted on 18/10/16

Very little in the media about what they're doing in Yemen.

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Depends what Media you read.

Do you know why the Saudis have an issue in Yemen?

posted on 18/10/16

comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 16 minutes ago
8bit

But Trump has stated the media are involved in electoral fraud.
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Depends if he was referring to media bias or the polling booths being rigged. The latter I doubt that is possible but I'm not sure how it works. I don't agree with everything he says just like you don't agree with everything from Clinton.
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I appreciate everyone enjoys a conspiracy theory but DT’s comments in relation to the media being complicit in regard to vote rigging is quite frankly absurd, and verges on the delusional.

While I don’t agree with many of HC’s comments or policies, she’s not a walking personality disorder with dictatorship tendencies.

posted on 18/10/16

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 16 minutes ago
8bit

But Trump has stated the media are involved in electoral fraud.
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Depends if he was referring to media bias or the polling booths being rigged. The latter I doubt that is possible but I'm not sure how it works. I don't agree with everything he says just like you don't agree with everything from Clinton.
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I appreciate everyone enjoys a conspiracy theory but DT’s comments in relation to the media being complicit in regard to vote rigging is quite frankly absurd, and verges on the delusional.

While I don’t agree with many of HC’s comments or policies, she’s not a walking personality disorder with dictatorship tendencies.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37682947

Trumps claims debunked.

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 18/10/16

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 13 minutes ago
Very little in the media about what they're doing in Yemen.

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Depends what Media you read.

Do you know why the Saudis have an issue in Yemen?
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Don't know much about it apart from it's a sectarian conflict, but there is a lot of suffering and not much coverage of it... now that the Russians have got involved in Syria we're suddenly a lot more sympathetic.

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 18/10/16

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 16 minutes ago
8bit

But Trump has stated the media are involved in electoral fraud.
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Depends if he was referring to media bias or the polling booths being rigged. The latter I doubt that is possible but I'm not sure how it works. I don't agree with everything he says just like you don't agree with everything from Clinton.
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I appreciate everyone enjoys a conspiracy theory but DT’s comments in relation to the media being complicit in regard to vote rigging is quite frankly absurd, and verges on the delusional.

While I don’t agree with many of HC’s comments or policies, she’s not a walking personality disorder with dictatorship tendencies.
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wikileaks revealed journalists colluding with the clinton campaign so it's not that absurd. If he's talking about the vote count being rigged then I don't agree with that.

posted on 18/10/16

Don't know much about it apart from it's a sectarian conflict, but there is a lot of suffering and not much coverage of it.

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I will give you a clue. A nation the Saudis don't particularly empathise with are backing the Yemen Rebels.

Now, look at the geographic approximation of Yemen to SA and you might begin to understand why the Saudis have an issue.

Only last week these clowns started firing missiles at US Ships in the area.

posted on 18/10/16

8bit

I don’t think we need the likes of WikiLeaks to establish there are partisan journalists affiliated with both campaigns. It’s been a practice for decades and not just in the US.

The point is that DT has alleged the press have been unlawfully assisting vote rigging. Two completely different issues.

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 18/10/16

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
Don't know much about it apart from it's a sectarian conflict, but there is a lot of suffering and not much coverage of it.

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I will give you a clue. A nation the Saudis don't particularly empathise with are backing the Yemen Rebels.

Now, look at the geographic approximation of Yemen to SA and you might begin to understand why the Saudis have an issue.

Only last week these clowns started firing missiles at US Ships in the area.
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Saudi and Iran are fighting for control of the region, we should just let them get on with it and stay out of the middle east. Trump agrees with that. Our interventions end up causing more chaos... seems like our end game is to remove Assad like we did in Iraq, Libya, Afghan.

posted on 18/10/16

The point is that DT has alleged the press have been unlawfully assisting vote rigging. Two completely different issues.

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And Trump isn't doing anything to help himself here.

I think the media, like myself, finds him to be far more despicable and dangerous than her.

posted on 18/10/16

Trump agrees with that.

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Does he? It is hard to tell. He hasn't made it clear what his policies are on the Middle East.

Let them get on with it among themselves isn't a very well thought out policy.

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