Do United fans want Mourinho out? He doesn't seem to be utilizing players in their best positions and is holding the team back.

Wow worse than lvg.

What always bemused me about the Jose appointment was united fans wanting van gaal out more because of the style of play rather than the results, they wanted attacking football and all rejoiced when Jose was announced. Chalk and cheese right there.

An injury to blind or smalling and your playing jones or rojo there, unless you chuck fosu mensah or tuanzebe in there. Worrying times for United fans

I think most armchair Utd fans were blinded by Jose's previous success and, like most armchair Chelsea fans, wrote off last season as a one off and therefore felt that if they were going to play rubbish football then they should have a manager that has won the league.

Jose's style worked at Chelsea, but I honestly don't think he could ever win the PL with any other team.

Stop saying Maureen, you're a grown man ffs. We took 13 points in LVG's first 10 games, so this has been a marked improvement 👍

Only 6 points off the top in a league where everyone seems to drop points regularly. Hardly time to hit the panic button,

So do we sack him then? And continue to have a revolving door policy every year where a new manager comes in and doesn't want half the players the previous manager bought? Where is that going to get us?

We have to stick with somebody eventually. 9 games might be a little early (of course it is) to be hitting the panic button over Jose.

He clearly doesn't rate Schweini, Schneiderlin, Depay and god only knows whats happening with Shaw and Mikhitaryan. Pogba too who looks nothing like the mot expensive player in the world.

We have to be more patient as fans but that's not going to happen is it?

I can see us getting a drubbing on Wednesday too. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 3 minutes ago
Only 6 points off the top in a league where everyone seems to drop points regularly. Hardly time to hit the panic button,
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Most teams are dropping points but United are worse than most for this, 16th in the form table. They need to buck their ideas up or they will be getting cut adrift very soon. It's already a five point gap to 5th place.

If I remember correctly, it was around November time that our season completely collapsed last year.

To try and make a direct comparison with this time last year is a complete manipulation of the stats.

I don't think I've seen Jose get such bad results in bigger games before.

1 point from City, Liverpool and Chelsea scoring one goal in the three games.

Fixtures looking hard all of a sudden. Swansea away then Arsenal at home. Less than four points there and people will start to ask questions.

May only be the league cup but Jose could do with beating City on Wednesday.

comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)

posted 18 minutes ago

So do we sack him then? And continue to have a revolving door policy every year where a new manager comes in and doesn't want half the players the previous manager bought? Where is that going to get us?

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the problem with that argument though is how much damage does someone failing cause, and how long is it acceptable to allow them to continue failing... the modern game rightly or wrongly, demands instant success or you can end up like Milan/Inter/Liverpool... or us even.

I wanted Jose, but I've a really bad feeling about things... have done from the City game tbh (he set the team up wrong, got the formation wrong... then seemed to blame certain players instead).

Its far early to be talking about sacking him etc... but tbh I've seen little or nothing so far to feel with any enthusiasm that things will turn round any time soon.

The most positive thing to have happened is Rooney finally being dropped... and we still look clueless

comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)

posted 18 minutes ago

So do we sack him then? And continue to have a revolving door policy every year where a new manager comes in and doesn't want half the players the previous manager bought? Where is that going to get us?

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the problem with that argument though is how much damage does someone failing cause, and how long is it acceptable to allow them to continue failing... the modern game rightly or wrongly, demands instant success or you can end up like Milan/Inter/Liverpool... or us even.

I wanted Jose, but I've a really bad feeling about things... have done from the City game tbh (he set the team up wrong, got the formation wrong... then seemed to blame certain players instead).

Its far early to be talking about sacking him etc... but tbh I've seen little or nothing so far to feel with any enthusiasm that things will turn round any time soon.

The most positive thing to have happened is Rooney finally being dropped... and we still look clueless
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Chelsea could have persisted with Jose given him some money to spend, and then we could have given him money to spend in the summer.

Would we have been better off? No, because we saw the kind of squad he wanted to build. Whats worse is that he seems like he has no tactical solutions to problems anymore. Compare him with Conte, who had a rocky few games but decided to change the formation and tactics to suit the players more.

Mourinho forces his players to fit his system, but what is strange is that does his sides even have a system or style anymore? At least when LVG was forcing players to do a job, it was fit his philosophy of football. With Jose can anymore tell why he is playing Rashford as a winger?

Ibra is a liability at the moment as well, massively slows down the play, goes wondering meaning he is positionally poor and doesn't put in a shift unlike the rest of the players.

It's a mess. Jose needs to start again and let his crrative players have a little freedom, join the modern erase and let his players press the ball.

Rashford and Lingard at fullback everytime Chelsea had the ball yesterday, it's embarrassing.

Fergie is proving to be right more and more often now he's gone. Pogba is a joke, Jose is not United material and Rooney should have been shipped.

I was furious yesterday and I still aim.

Where's the strategy?

Does Jose have any idea what he wants the team to look like? Because I sure as sheet don't see it.

There are more problems that I could list on one page.

We might only be six points off the top but we might as well be sixty points off for the way we're playing - we're a world away from competing.

Would be interesting to compare his performance with Moyes as that was used a lot to criticise the former manager