"All Im saying is I have suspicions money is being taken out of the club and there is something that does not look right, Adams appears to be saying that, yet a lot of people say its not true but dont have any evidence to back it up."
Where is Adams' proof that money is being taken out of the club?
What does Tony Adams know about high finance,not a lot I guess,he has a book to sell,end of story.
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it would still show up on the published accounts if he was taking money out, I think that's how they found out he was taking 3m out because someone at the AST found out by going through the accounts?
There's been some speculation that Kroenke is guaranteeing loans for building this new St Louis Rams stadium against his Arsenal shares.
Wonder if Tony can confirm or deny this?
Q. What do you call a man with no shins? A. Tony
it's a bloke who probably doesn't even know how to write a cheque to pay his milkman.
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Couple of years from now will be more advanced
Ace what are your predictions for winners of French Open this year.I hope Nadal and Bouchard or even Muguruza win it this time.
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comment by Curly 💩 - I'm mumpsimus and I know it.' (except on a Wednesday, that is my obstreperous day) - ITS JIST A BIG CLIQUE N'AT (U1103)
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All Im saying is I have suspicions money is being taken out of the club and there is something that does not look right, Adams appears to be saying that, yet a lot of people say its not true but dont have any evidence to back it up. Please provide some evidence for your point of view and rather than just speculation. How can you be so sure?
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Am I reading this correctly in that you are "speculating" that money is being taken out of Arsenal?
You then want others to prove that they are not taking money out but you want them to provide solid evidence and not "speculation"
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Yes, pretty much this: "I have a suspicion X is happening, but have absolutely no evidence or proof. In order to disprove my unfounded allegations, please provide concrete evidence and proof to the contrary".
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Are all Arsenal fans as intelligent as the OP or is he just a special case?
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See the first comment on this article for a more succinct version of your own original comment, and use that as an answer to your next.
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Ace what are your predictions for winners of French Open this year.I hope Nadal and Bouchard or even Muguruza win it this time.
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Bouchard has a 0% chance. Would love Kvitova to win but Halep will probably win easily
Tony Adams is a legend at Arsenal but I cant help myself he has also some serious issues.
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
There's been some speculation that Kroenke is guaranteeing loans for building this new St Louis Rams stadium against his Arsenal shares.
Wonder if Tony can confirm or deny this?
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Didn't the deal to get the club prevent him from being able to do that? I'm sure the club shares can't be used to guarantee loans. Wasn't that meant to be one of the basic fundamentals of the structure post Highbury.
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posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
There's been some speculation that Kroenke is guaranteeing loans for building this new St Louis Rams stadium against his Arsenal shares.
Wonder if Tony can confirm or deny this?
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Didn't know this was a secret.
comment by Pep The Final Straw!! (Formerly WB2) (U8276)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
There's been some speculation that Kroenke is guaranteeing loans for building this new St Louis Rams stadium against his Arsenal shares.
Wonder if Tony can confirm or deny this?
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Didn't the deal to get the club prevent him from being able to do that? I'm sure the club shares can't be used to guarantee loans. Wasn't that meant to be one of the basic fundamentals of the structure post Highbury.
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Of course not. 66% of Arsenal are assets that he has borrowed against in the past. I don't know how you can prevent that?
Jenius, I've no idea, I just vaguely remember lots of talk about how anyone buying in could not use club shares as collateral back when deals were being done. One of the biggest concerns anti stan fans had was a scenario which saw him using us to effectively underwrite a more expensive to run Rams franchise, placing the club at risk. I'm sure the anti stan lot were all told that this categorically could not happen as there were clauses in the deal which prevented it. I am going from vague memory now though.
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posted on 29/5/17
"All Im saying is I have suspicions money is being taken out of the club and there is something that does not look right, Adams appears to be saying that, yet a lot of people say its not true but dont have any evidence to back it up."
Where is Adams' proof that money is being taken out of the club?
posted on 29/5/17
What does Tony Adams know about high finance,not a lot I guess,he has a book to sell,end of story.
posted on 29/5/17
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posted on 29/5/17
it would still show up on the published accounts if he was taking money out, I think that's how they found out he was taking 3m out because someone at the AST found out by going through the accounts?
posted on 29/5/17
There's been some speculation that Kroenke is guaranteeing loans for building this new St Louis Rams stadium against his Arsenal shares.
Wonder if Tony can confirm or deny this?
posted on 29/5/17
Q. What do you call a man with no shins? A. Tony
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it's a bloke who probably doesn't even know how to write a cheque to pay his milkman.
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Do people still use cheques?
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Couple of years from now will be more advanced
posted on 29/5/17
Ace what are your predictions for winners of French Open this year.I hope Nadal and Bouchard or even Muguruza win it this time.
posted on 29/5/17
comment by Curly 💩 - I'm mumpsimus and I know it.' (except on a Wednesday, that is my obstreperous day ) - ITS JIST A BIG CLIQUE N'AT (U1103)
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comment by Curly 💩 - I'm mumpsimus and I know it.' (except on a Wednesday, that is my obstreperous day) - ITS JIST A BIG CLIQUE N'AT (U1103)
posted 53 seconds ago
All Im saying is I have suspicions money is being taken out of the club and there is something that does not look right, Adams appears to be saying that, yet a lot of people say its not true but dont have any evidence to back it up. Please provide some evidence for your point of view and rather than just speculation. How can you be so sure?
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Am I reading this correctly in that you are "speculating" that money is being taken out of Arsenal?
You then want others to prove that they are not taking money out but you want them to provide solid evidence and not "speculation"
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Yes, pretty much this: "I have a suspicion X is happening, but have absolutely no evidence or proof. In order to disprove my unfounded allegations, please provide concrete evidence and proof to the contrary".
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Are all Arsenal fans as intelligent as the OP or is he just a special case?
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See the first comment on this article for a more succinct version of your own original comment, and use that as an answer to your next.
posted on 29/5/17
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comment by ZahraIhsanphile (U20361)
posted 18 minutes ago
Ace what are your predictions for winners of French Open this year.I hope Nadal and Bouchard or even Muguruza win it this time.
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Bouchard has a 0% chance. Would love Kvitova to win but Halep will probably win easily
posted on 29/5/17
Tony Adams is a legend at Arsenal but I cant help myself he has also some serious issues.
posted on 29/5/17
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
There's been some speculation that Kroenke is guaranteeing loans for building this new St Louis Rams stadium against his Arsenal shares.
Wonder if Tony can confirm or deny this?
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Didn't the deal to get the club prevent him from being able to do that? I'm sure the club shares can't be used to guarantee loans. Wasn't that meant to be one of the basic fundamentals of the structure post Highbury.
posted on 29/5/17
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
There's been some speculation that Kroenke is guaranteeing loans for building this new St Louis Rams stadium against his Arsenal shares.
Wonder if Tony can confirm or deny this?
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Didn't know this was a secret.
posted on 29/5/17
comment by Pep The Final Straw!! (Formerly WB2) (U8276)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
There's been some speculation that Kroenke is guaranteeing loans for building this new St Louis Rams stadium against his Arsenal shares.
Wonder if Tony can confirm or deny this?
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Didn't the deal to get the club prevent him from being able to do that? I'm sure the club shares can't be used to guarantee loans. Wasn't that meant to be one of the basic fundamentals of the structure post Highbury.
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Of course not. 66% of Arsenal are assets that he has borrowed against in the past. I don't know how you can prevent that?
posted on 29/5/17
Jenius, I've no idea, I just vaguely remember lots of talk about how anyone buying in could not use club shares as collateral back when deals were being done. One of the biggest concerns anti stan fans had was a scenario which saw him using us to effectively underwrite a more expensive to run Rams franchise, placing the club at risk. I'm sure the anti stan lot were all told that this categorically could not happen as there were clauses in the deal which prevented it. I am going from vague memory now though.
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