I can't see anything better than mid table unless Nugent and Martin can form a partnership. They wont get much service from midfield, they may from the flanks if Fozzie and Wisdom can link up with the wide attackers.
So we had all them aspects of the game covered last season? No we didn't. Time for a fresh look on things. Hughes and Ince are lovely players and I wish them well but we finished below par with them in the side. I know there are a couple coming in...
Am I the only Derby fan that is going to wait and see how Wisdom performs before getting excited by him joining Derby? I'm hoping the move works out for both him and the club, I really do but since he left Derby 3 years ago, (can't believe it's been 3 years) he hadn't really progressed.
comment by GRIFF....fair price for football fans...not alot to ask for? (U3408)
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Am I the only Derby fan that is going to wait and see how Wisdom performs before getting excited by him joining Derby? I'm hoping the move works out for both him and the club, I really do but since he left Derby 3 years ago, (can't believe it's been 3 years) he hadn't really progressed.
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Neither have Derby without him so it's a match made in heaven 😂
Am I the only Derby fan that is going to wait and see how Wisdom performs before getting excited by him joining Derby? I'm hoping the move works out for both him and the club, I really do but since he left Derby 3 years ago, (can't believe it's been 3 years) he hadn't really progressed.
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No you aren't Griff. We will have to see him play before we can judge though. I had similar concerns about Vydra when he signed last season but was attacked by several posters for saying so. Then again when Blackman arrived he was one of the leading scorers in the Championship. Current form and past form can be misleading in the transfer market.
We do seem to have form recently in turning supposedly good players into average ones at best (and usually crap).
By the laws of averages, we should get a "good-un" sooner or later, (here's hoping at least).
Watford had our pants down over Hughes good style, ........... just how far we will have to wait and see, but they are "below the knees already".
COYR.
Norman is on the plane, just seen a photo!!!
It's official
Anyone on twatter? Rumours flying around that Sheff Weds have pulled out of Keogh deal
Yes, it's all over FB and Twatter. Keogh on plane too , no sign of Ince.
Wisdom is on the Tenerife trip but hadn't signed yet. I think once the Ince move goes thro he will.
Wednesday know derby are desperate for the money so will pull out wait till next week then come in with a reduced offer
Hmm intrigued as to why that is.
Been chatting to the sister of 1 of the players and the feeling is any offer that comes in for any of the players and they are to be sold which could upset Rowett's plans.
This player has been told he's part of GR's plans unless the chairman sells him.
That is very disturbing Griff. We are in the same boat as Forest have been for the past few seasons. Note, Forest have finished lower in the championship than the previous season for the 4th time in a row.
Rowett did perform a bit of a miracle at Brum before they sacked him. More miracles needed at Derby.
There are always two sides to every story, Spart. Don't believe everything you read on social media.
We have signed a large sponsorship deal with QTS today (reported by the club) which falls in this new financial year.
Do you think MM has become a self-made billionaire by making poor business decisions and running his businesses recklessly and naively?
Unfortunately he seems to have let Sam Rush do that with Derby.
Wonder how much $hite he has caused behind the scenes? Certain sales were coming no matter what, Rowett said as much. Mel it seems is trying to redress the balance of his boom or bust policy. £10m for Ince, the sale of Hughes and cancellation of monies owed to Watford will have gone a long way towards that. We have been a buying club for 3 years and now we are a selling club fans are getting twitchy. I will start to panic if GR is struggling to field 11 players come 4th August, until then let's see what happens before we write the season off before it's begun.
"Championship rules 2016/17
This season (2016/17), new ‘Profitability and Sustainability’ rules operate in the Championship; for the first time, clubs will be assessed over 3 seasons (rather than just a single season). This change brings the Championship clubs into alignment with the Premier League – both have ‘Profit and Sustainability’ rules that are now fully aligned. Crucially, this harmonisation of the rules comes with the blessing of the Premier League - so we shouldn’t see any repeat of the stand-offs that arose (and are still ongoing) with QPR and Leicester. Previously, the Premier League bosses refused to help the Football League collect the ‘Fair Play Tax’ fines for clubs that overspent but won promotion – this lack of support significantly undermined the Football League and severely impacted on the effectiveness of the Football League punishments.
There are a number key changes:
The assessment is carried out in March (rather than December)
The maximum loss limit is now £13m per Championship season (or £5m a season of the owner does not inject equity to cover losses).
Losses are assessed over three seasons (rather than just over the single, previous season)
The assessment of each club’s finances is a combination of a historic assessment (looking at figures for the two previous completed season) and an assessment over the season currently taking place
The last point is particularly significant; in addition to historic account information about past seasons, clubs now have to submit a financial projection for the season that is still taking place. All the information has to be with the Football League by the 1 March. The Football League have confirmed that they are aiming to have any punishments announced before the end of the season."
Just stole this. As I said I believe it is more of a balancing the books rather than a fire sale
Baz. The reason why some people are successful in business is that they are very focussed in a particular field. This might not transfer to running a different type of business. I would like to use Donald Trump as an example but his business track record doesn't look that good either.
Mel probably made lots of poor business descisions but enough good ones. If you make the right ones early enough you succeed.
Spart,
Sounds like I made a good business decision by only going to see Derby once last season, (away at Wigan). Christ is was a dire game!
You ST holders deserve a medal as big as the top of a barrel.
Spart, MM became a millionaire by the age of 21 by starting a door/joinery business. I guess he must have got in on joinery early then, eh?
I can think of hundreds of millions he made in a dating business. Early early as well?
Maybe Richard Branson was early on everything too, records and then flights?
There are none so blind as those who will not see?
Baz, there are thousands who start businesses with good ideas but run out of capital before they take off.
Ever heard of Jonathan Hormnlower, thought not. He patenetd a far more efficient steam engine than James Watt's but was bankrupted and imprisoned. That is what I meant by having early success. A unit of power should be a Hornblower not a Watt.
Richard Branson got lucky with Tubular Bells (a particularly crap album which inexplicably people bought) and then was able to follow a simple business model of entry in to businesses where there were traditionally high profit margins and low competition. Again early success enabled him to do this.
I can see fine thanks and I still don't worship those who have money.
You sound as if making money is simple Spart, I must try it.
I think the people who make serious money from nothing have something special, like some people become top footballers are special.
Spart, as ever it is not worth discussing matters with you, it would less painful to puncture my own testicles.
I do not, for one minute, 'worship' those who have made money (entrepreneurs). I do often admire them, that's all.
Can you contradict anything I have said though Baz?
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posted 1 minute ago
Can you contradict anything I have said though Baz?
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No, you're perfectly correct tha the early bird gets the worm and that evidently anything tha comes afterward is immediately a failure; that must be why we're all driving steam-powered cars, eh?
FFS.
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posted on 1/7/17
I can't see anything better than mid table unless Nugent and Martin can form a partnership. They wont get much service from midfield, they may from the flanks if Fozzie and Wisdom can link up with the wide attackers.
posted on 1/7/17
So we had all them aspects of the game covered last season? No we didn't. Time for a fresh look on things. Hughes and Ince are lovely players and I wish them well but we finished below par with them in the side. I know there are a couple coming in...
posted on 2/7/17
Am I the only Derby fan that is going to wait and see how Wisdom performs before getting excited by him joining Derby? I'm hoping the move works out for both him and the club, I really do but since he left Derby 3 years ago, (can't believe it's been 3 years) he hadn't really progressed.
posted on 2/7/17
comment by GRIFF....fair price for football fans...not alot to ask for? (U3408)
posted 22 minutes ago
Am I the only Derby fan that is going to wait and see how Wisdom performs before getting excited by him joining Derby? I'm hoping the move works out for both him and the club, I really do but since he left Derby 3 years ago, (can't believe it's been 3 years) he hadn't really progressed.
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Neither have Derby without him so it's a match made in heaven 😂
posted on 2/7/17
Am I the only Derby fan that is going to wait and see how Wisdom performs before getting excited by him joining Derby? I'm hoping the move works out for both him and the club, I really do but since he left Derby 3 years ago, (can't believe it's been 3 years) he hadn't really progressed.
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No you aren't Griff. We will have to see him play before we can judge though. I had similar concerns about Vydra when he signed last season but was attacked by several posters for saying so. Then again when Blackman arrived he was one of the leading scorers in the Championship. Current form and past form can be misleading in the transfer market.
posted on 2/7/17
We do seem to have form recently in turning supposedly good players into average ones at best (and usually crap).
By the laws of averages, we should get a "good-un" sooner or later, (here's hoping at least).
Watford had our pants down over Hughes good style, ........... just how far we will have to wait and see, but they are "below the knees already".
COYR.
posted on 2/7/17
Norman is on the plane, just seen a photo!!!
It's official
posted on 2/7/17
Anyone on twatter? Rumours flying around that Sheff Weds have pulled out of Keogh deal
posted on 2/7/17
Yes, it's all over FB and Twatter. Keogh on plane too , no sign of Ince.
posted on 2/7/17
Wisdom is on the Tenerife trip but hadn't signed yet. I think once the Ince move goes thro he will.
Wednesday know derby are desperate for the money so will pull out wait till next week then come in with a reduced offer
posted on 2/7/17
Hmm intrigued as to why that is.
posted on 2/7/17
Been chatting to the sister of 1 of the players and the feeling is any offer that comes in for any of the players and they are to be sold which could upset Rowett's plans.
This player has been told he's part of GR's plans unless the chairman sells him.
posted on 2/7/17
That is very disturbing Griff. We are in the same boat as Forest have been for the past few seasons. Note, Forest have finished lower in the championship than the previous season for the 4th time in a row.
Rowett did perform a bit of a miracle at Brum before they sacked him. More miracles needed at Derby.
posted on 2/7/17
There are always two sides to every story, Spart. Don't believe everything you read on social media.
We have signed a large sponsorship deal with QTS today (reported by the club) which falls in this new financial year.
Do you think MM has become a self-made billionaire by making poor business decisions and running his businesses recklessly and naively?
posted on 2/7/17
Unfortunately he seems to have let Sam Rush do that with Derby.
Wonder how much $hite he has caused behind the scenes? Certain sales were coming no matter what, Rowett said as much. Mel it seems is trying to redress the balance of his boom or bust policy. £10m for Ince, the sale of Hughes and cancellation of monies owed to Watford will have gone a long way towards that. We have been a buying club for 3 years and now we are a selling club fans are getting twitchy. I will start to panic if GR is struggling to field 11 players come 4th August, until then let's see what happens before we write the season off before it's begun.
posted on 2/7/17
"Championship rules 2016/17
This season (2016/17), new ‘Profitability and Sustainability’ rules operate in the Championship; for the first time, clubs will be assessed over 3 seasons (rather than just a single season). This change brings the Championship clubs into alignment with the Premier League – both have ‘Profit and Sustainability’ rules that are now fully aligned. Crucially, this harmonisation of the rules comes with the blessing of the Premier League - so we shouldn’t see any repeat of the stand-offs that arose (and are still ongoing) with QPR and Leicester. Previously, the Premier League bosses refused to help the Football League collect the ‘Fair Play Tax’ fines for clubs that overspent but won promotion – this lack of support significantly undermined the Football League and severely impacted on the effectiveness of the Football League punishments.
There are a number key changes:
The assessment is carried out in March (rather than December)
The maximum loss limit is now £13m per Championship season (or £5m a season of the owner does not inject equity to cover losses).
Losses are assessed over three seasons (rather than just over the single, previous season)
The assessment of each club’s finances is a combination of a historic assessment (looking at figures for the two previous completed season) and an assessment over the season currently taking place
The last point is particularly significant; in addition to historic account information about past seasons, clubs now have to submit a financial projection for the season that is still taking place. All the information has to be with the Football League by the 1 March. The Football League have confirmed that they are aiming to have any punishments announced before the end of the season."
Just stole this. As I said I believe it is more of a balancing the books rather than a fire sale
posted on 2/7/17
Well said tommo.
posted on 2/7/17
Baz. The reason why some people are successful in business is that they are very focussed in a particular field. This might not transfer to running a different type of business. I would like to use Donald Trump as an example but his business track record doesn't look that good either.
Mel probably made lots of poor business descisions but enough good ones. If you make the right ones early enough you succeed.
posted on 3/7/17
Spart,
Sounds like I made a good business decision by only going to see Derby once last season, (away at Wigan). Christ is was a dire game!
You ST holders deserve a medal as big as the top of a barrel.
posted on 3/7/17
Spart, MM became a millionaire by the age of 21 by starting a door/joinery business. I guess he must have got in on joinery early then, eh?
I can think of hundreds of millions he made in a dating business. Early early as well?
Maybe Richard Branson was early on everything too, records and then flights?
There are none so blind as those who will not see?
posted on 3/7/17
Baz, there are thousands who start businesses with good ideas but run out of capital before they take off.
Ever heard of Jonathan Hormnlower, thought not. He patenetd a far more efficient steam engine than James Watt's but was bankrupted and imprisoned. That is what I meant by having early success. A unit of power should be a Hornblower not a Watt.
Richard Branson got lucky with Tubular Bells (a particularly crap album which inexplicably people bought) and then was able to follow a simple business model of entry in to businesses where there were traditionally high profit margins and low competition. Again early success enabled him to do this.
I can see fine thanks and I still don't worship those who have money.
posted on 3/7/17
You sound as if making money is simple Spart, I must try it.
I think the people who make serious money from nothing have something special, like some people become top footballers are special.
posted on 3/7/17
Spart, as ever it is not worth discussing matters with you, it would less painful to puncture my own testicles.
I do not, for one minute, 'worship' those who have made money (entrepreneurs). I do often admire them, that's all.
posted on 3/7/17
Can you contradict anything I have said though Baz?
posted on 3/7/17
comment by I'm not Spartacus. and definitely not Vidal (U4603)
posted 1 minute ago
Can you contradict anything I have said though Baz?
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No, you're perfectly correct tha the early bird gets the worm and that evidently anything tha comes afterward is immediately a failure; that must be why we're all driving steam-powered cars, eh?
FFS.
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