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comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 15 seconds ago
How is China to be held to account? Who is in a position to hold them to account?

The Republicans seem hell bent on destroying American democracy so America has its own issues to deal with.
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So we let China have a pass?

Brilliant.
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Huge difference in how you deal with a super nation with huge forces compared to how you deal with ME countries, insurgents and guerilla warfare. I suspect you know why but just want to keep bleating ‘what about China’ etc

comment by Zachsda( My pals a bigot) (U1850)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 seconds ago
How is China to be held to account? Who is in a position to hold them to account?

The Republicans seem hell bent on destroying American democracy so America has its own issues to deal with.
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The whole Merica 1st thing and isolationist madness of Trump gave China 3 solid years to manoeuvre
Fookin clownshoe
Not suggesting get involved in wars but don’t det. From interacting on the world stage
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America forgetting (or messing up) soft power that has helped put it in and maintain its position in the world is a bizarre one.

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 15 seconds ago
How is China to be held to account? Who is in a position to hold them to account?

The Republicans seem hell bent on destroying American democracy so America has its own issues to deal with.
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So we let China have a pass?

Brilliant.
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Great debating skills there tbab.
What's your opinion on how China should be held accountable? You say you want China held accountable, I don't know exactly for what, all I'm asking is who is in the.position to do that? It's not a Gotcha ffs!

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 20 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
Assume you'd feel the same judgement should apply to those accessing Islamic terrorist manuals?
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That was my initial reaction, one law for the misguided clever white boy one for the terrible, brainwashed brown boy
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Grouchy and hec playing politics and the race card.

Then grouchy denies doing so.

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 20 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
Assume you'd feel the same judgement should apply to those accessing Islamic terrorist manuals?
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That was my initial reaction, one law for the misguided clever white boy one for the terrible, brainwashed brown boy
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Grouchy and hec playing politics and the race card.

Then grouchy denies doing so.
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I'll await your example of when a brown extremist escaped jail time because he was bright and just needed to broaden his education a bit...tick rock...

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 20 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
Assume you'd feel the same judgement should apply to those accessing Islamic terrorist manuals?
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That was my initial reaction, one law for the misguided clever white boy one for the terrible, brainwashed brown boy
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Grouchy and hec playing politics and the race card.

Then grouchy denies doing so.


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Debating skills

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 15 seconds ago
How is China to be held to account? Who is in a position to hold them to account?

The Republicans seem hell bent on destroying American democracy so America has its own issues to deal with.
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So we let China have a pass?

Brilliant.
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Great debating skills there tbab.
What's your opinion on how China should be held accountable? You say you want China held accountable, I don't know exactly for what, all I'm asking is who is in the.position to do that? It's not a Gotcha ffs!
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The rest of the world..

Democrats, civil rights groups, UN, EU, Woman's and girls lobbyists, those concerned about pollution and use of coal power stations, muslim groups concerned about the minority there in China being oppressed, the covid pandemic following on from Sars and bird flu needs WHO backbone to tackle China cover ups, for starters.

Is it too big and so we look away?

The world trades with China so that is a means to hold them to account...where it hurts.

Or should we just give up on freedom, civil liberty, human rights, climate change, democracy, equality in China?

How very defeatist.🤔

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 20 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
Assume you'd feel the same judgement should apply to those accessing Islamic terrorist manuals?
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That was my initial reaction, one law for the misguided clever white boy one for the terrible, brainwashed brown boy
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Grouchy and hec playing politics and the race card.

Then grouchy denies doing so.


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Islam is a religion not a skin tone

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 15 seconds ago
How is China to be held to account? Who is in a position to hold them to account?

The Republicans seem hell bent on destroying American democracy so America has its own issues to deal with.
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So we let China have a pass?

Brilliant.
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Great debating skills there tbab.
What's your opinion on how China should be held accountable? You say you want China held accountable, I don't know exactly for what, all I'm asking is who is in the.position to do that? It's not a Gotcha ffs!
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The rest of the world..

Democrats, civil rights groups, UN, EU, Woman's and girls lobbyists, those concerned about pollution and use of coal power stations, muslim groups concerned about the minority there in China being oppressed, the covid pandemic following on from Sars and bird flu needs WHO backbone to tackle China cover ups, for starters.

Is it too big and so we look away?
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I’ll be honest I’ve read your response a couple of times and I don’t think it covers “how China should be held accountable”. You’ve just listed groups who will be unhappy with an aspect of China.

Tbh tbab you talk about wanting to debate but when you're not spamming the thread with rhetorical questions youre just throwing playground names at me or laughing at arsenal

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comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
The world trades with China so that is a means to hold them to account...where it hurts.

Or should we just give up on freedom, civil liberty, human rights, climate change, democracy, equality in China?

How very defeatist.🤔
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What would you propose? Oh and I’m sure you’re aware, but there are currently tariffs applied by the EU and the USA against China.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 20 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
Assume you'd feel the same judgement should apply to those accessing Islamic terrorist manuals?
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That was my initial reaction, one law for the misguided clever white boy one for the terrible, brainwashed brown boy
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Grouchy and hec playing politics and the race card.

Then grouchy denies doing so.
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I'll await your example of when a brown extremist escaped jail time because he was bright and just needed to broaden his education a bit...tick rock...
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You think judges go easy on certain people, based on colour?

Surely each individual case has its complexities and passed criminal record are paramount, but if you think it is about pigmentation, who am I to argue?

comment by Zachsda( My pals a bigot) (U1850)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 49 seconds ago
Tbh tbab you talk about wanting to debate but when you're not spamming the thread with rhetorical questions youre just throwing playground names at me or laughing at arsenal
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To be fair even The Taliban laugh at Arsenal

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Only after Bin Laden died (the family had a box at Highbury)

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 5 minutes ago
Tbh tbab you talk about wanting to debate but when you're not spamming the thread with rhetorical questions youre just throwing playground names at me or laughing at arsenal
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You are too sensitive then.

I only popped on for a laugh.

I thought you came for debate? 🤔

“ You think judges go easy on certain people, based on colour?”

Hasn’t this been proven in disproportionate sentences given to offenders based on race?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/849200/statistics-on-race-and-the-cjs-2018.pdf

“ White offenders have had a consistently lower average custodial sentence length (ACSL) for indictable offences than all other ethnic groups since 2014.
In 2018, White offenders had an ACSL of 18.3 months compared to 29.1 months for Asian offenders, 28.0 months for Black offenders, 23.3 months for Chinese or Other offenders and 22.2 months for offenders from Mixed ethnic groups.”

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 20 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
Assume you'd feel the same judgement should apply to those accessing Islamic terrorist manuals?
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That was my initial reaction, one law for the misguided clever white boy one for the terrible, brainwashed brown boy
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Grouchy and hec playing politics and the race card.

Then grouchy denies doing so.
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I'll await your example of when a brown extremist escaped jail time because he was bright and just needed to broaden his education a bit...tick rock...
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You think judges go easy on certain people, based on colour?

Surely each individual case has its complexities and passed criminal record are paramount, but if you think it is about pigmentation, who am I to argue?
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I didn't think there were any examples and thought you might have been more aware.
The point wasn't really about skin colour, though granted I used brown, it was about the benefit of the doubt being shown in this particular case, a benefit I don't believe would be shown to a brown boy in the same position.
I'm sure you read the other replies where I also said I was all in favour of not ruining a young life for youthful idiocy, regardless of race, creed or colour.

comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
The world trades with China so that is a means to hold them to account...where it hurts.

Or should we just give up on freedom, civil liberty, human rights, climate change, democracy, equality in China?

How very defeatist.🤔
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What would you propose? Oh and I’m sure you’re aware, but there are currently tariffs applied by the EU and the USA against China.
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Dear Lord, I have to fix China now.

When China is now super power number one, run by an an all male communist junta that abuses it's people, other nations and the planet, I thought political animals here would hold them to account???

Am outta here, it's pointless.....we're all doomed.😂😂

Good luck.

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comment by Zachsda( My pals a bigot) (U1850)
posted about a minute ago

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Dear Lord, I have to fix China now.

If not too badly broken use superglue
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The last thing TBAB needs is more glue.

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 3 minutes ago
I thought you came for debate? 🤔
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I was going to say I only popped out for a paper or pint of milk....I was messing.😊

It is pointless imo, as opinions are stuck and personality dictates response too often, so I bid you Good Day.

Perhaps the judges are all racist and the Spectator has gone natzi and we should just let the nice Chinese govt be.

Take her easy, lads.😍

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