How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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Baffles me why folk get so worked up about stuff that they have a choice about. Don't like the books, don't buy them.
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That kind of works both ways. If you don't like the edited versions don't buy then either. The originals will still be available.
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This
Old Joe is in Kyiv this morning, 4 days before the 1 year anniversary of demented Vlads illegal invasion.
Evidence suggests parts of QT are biased -> pawl has no problem with these parts. -> pawl has no problem with bias towards his side. -> what pawl views as biased against his side, is actually balanced.
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posted 5 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
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posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
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Perhaps because not everyone who is a Tory feels the need to defend them no matter what they do?
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posted 8 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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I’d suggest it comes from, for him, that when biased chair (that Pawl doesn’t think is biased) Fiona Bruce asks for a show of hands on individual conservative policies, they get little support. He extrapolates that show of hands (which I don’t know if he pauses to count or not, but let’s assume he does) on an individual Tory policy to support or non support for a party.
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posted 7 seconds ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
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Perhaps because not everyone who is a Tory feels the need to defend them no matter what they do?
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So let me get this right. Evidence suggests the tories get massively more time to talk positively about their policies, than any other panel member. But what pawl wants is EVEN MORE TIME for audience members to repeat what the Tory panel member is saying? Again, I would suggest that it is a desire for bias towards his own views that is driving the unhappiness with QT.
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
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That's desperate!
Nobody puts their hand up to defend your dishonoured and inept heroes so it's bias rather than public opinion turning against them.
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posted 5 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
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Perhaps because not everyone who is a Tory feels the need to defend them no matter what they do?
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So let me get this right. Evidence suggests the tories get massively more time to talk positively about their policies, than any other panel member. But what pawl wants is EVEN MORE TIME for audience members to repeat what the Tory panel member is saying? Again, I would suggest that it is a desire for bias towards his own views that is driving the unhappiness with QT.
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As more questions are directed at the government minister on the panel than the other 4 panelists (which will always be the case) it doesn't strike me as odd that they get more air time.
The challenge for Bruce is to ensure that the others get a fair crack of the whip. I'm sure there are times that the Tory on the panel wishes they could get away with saying less.
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How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
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Perhaps because not everyone who is a Tory feels the need to defend them no matter what they do?
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So let me get this right. Evidence suggests the tories get massively more time to talk positively about their policies, than any other panel member. But what pawl wants is EVEN MORE TIME for audience members to repeat what the Tory panel member is saying? Again, I would suggest that it is a desire for bias towards his own views that is driving the unhappiness with QT.
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As more questions are directed at the government minister on the panel than the other 4 panelists (which will always be the case) it doesn't strike me as odd that they get more air time.
The challenge for Bruce is to ensure that the others get a fair crack of the whip. I'm sure there are times that the Tory on the panel wishes they could get away with saying less.
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I completely disagree. I think they would happily talk for the full time without there being the opportunity to be properly challenged on whatever they are saying. You see this same thing with interviews, politicians give monologues that would make Shakespeare cringe so there is insufficient time to challenge them on what they’re saying. It is a well known and established political tactic, so I do find it odd that you have not recognised it.
They boycotted R4 Today because they don't like being challenged.
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How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
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Perhaps because not everyone who is a Tory feels the need to defend them no matter what they do?
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So let me get this right. Evidence suggests the tories get massively more time to talk positively about their policies, than any other panel member. But what pawl wants is EVEN MORE TIME for audience members to repeat what the Tory panel member is saying? Again, I would suggest that it is a desire for bias towards his own views that is driving the unhappiness with QT.
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As more questions are directed at the government minister on the panel than the other 4 panelists (which will always be the case) it doesn't strike me as odd that they get more air time.
The challenge for Bruce is to ensure that the others get a fair crack of the whip. I'm sure there are times that the Tory on the panel wishes they could get away with saying less.
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I completely disagree. I think they would happily talk for the full time without there being the opportunity to be properly challenged on whatever they are saying. You see this same thing with interviews, politicians give monologues that would make Shakespeare cringe so there is insufficient time to challenge them on what they’re saying. It is a well known and established political tactic, so I do find it odd that you have not recognised it.
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OK we're not going to agree but that's all good I'm used to ploughing a lonely furrow on here.
Moving things on if Humza Yousaf (who talks at you rather than too you) gets the SNP leadership is that the best news that Labour have had from Scotland in a very long time?
He's not getting in.
I do think Sturgeon carried a percentage of the floating electorate, I don't know if the new leader continues carrying them just as I don't know if they'd jump to Labour.
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posted 2 minutes ago
He's not getting in.
I do think Sturgeon carried a percentage of the floating electorate, I don't know if the new leader continues carrying them just as I don't know if they'd jump to Labour.
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I hope your right Hector the bloke comes across as always angry and aggressive and we don't need more of him on our screens.
Despite suggestions otherwise this next generation of SNP talent in holyrood, humza, Kate Forbes ash Rogan etc don’t do anything for me. Incompetent, socially illiberal or both
It's a couple of hard acts to follow, Eck and then Nicola.
Sunak holds back Northern Ireland protocol deal amid concerns from DUP
Predictable. If you want power sharing to resume in Northern Ireland then you're gonna need the DUP to support what you're proposing otherwise its a waste of time.
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posted 34 minutes ago
It's a couple of hard acts to follow, Eck and then Nicola.
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And it did seem with sturgeon she was identified early on as a future leader. I just don’t think Forbes is either experienced enough, or “modern” enough, despite her age, to be a credible leader. Humza and Rogan, less said the better.
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posted 53 minutes ago
Sunak holds back Northern Ireland protocol deal amid concerns from DUP
Predictable. If you want power sharing to resume in Northern Ireland then you're gonna need the DUP to support what you're proposing otherwise its a waste of time.
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The problem is in reconciling the EU’s (and international trade law’s) requirements, the GFA and DUP demands, and I don’t see how that can ever be done.
You cannot be outside the SM and CU and have zero checks in or out at one border or another. It just cannot be done.
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posted about 2 hours ago
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posted 53 minutes ago
Sunak holds back Northern Ireland protocol deal amid concerns from DUP
Predictable. If you want power sharing to resume in Northern Ireland then you're gonna need the DUP to support what you're proposing otherwise its a waste of time.
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The problem is in reconciling the EU’s (and international trade law’s) requirements, the GFA and DUP demands, and I don’t see how that can ever be done.
You cannot be outside the SM and CU and have zero checks in or out at one border or another. It just cannot be done.
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I agree I'm failing to see how they resolve it. Northern Ireland have the best of both worlds at the moment so the people would probably be content if nothing xhanged from now
Junior doctors in England have voted in favour of taking strike action in their fight to get a pay rise of 26%.
Members of the British Medical Association are now expected to take part in a 72-hour walkout, possibly as early as mid March.
The union said the rise being asked for was to make up for pay cuts since 2008 once inflation is taken into account.
BREXIT FOOOOKING BRITAIN
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
Junior doctors in England have voted in favour of taking strike action in their fight to get a pay rise of 26%.
Members of the British Medical Association are now expected to take part in a 72-hour walkout, possibly as early as mid March.
The union said the rise being asked for was to make up for pay cuts since 2008 once inflation is taken into account.
BREXIT FOOOOKING BRITAIN
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How very dare they, they should be banned from striking, or something something something something..
Real terms pay reduction by over a quarter is pretty shocking tbh.
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posted on 20/2/23
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
posted on 20/2/23
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about 2 hours ago
Baffles me why folk get so worked up about stuff that they have a choice about. Don't like the books, don't buy them.
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That kind of works both ways. If you don't like the edited versions don't buy then either. The originals will still be available.
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This
posted on 20/2/23
Old Joe is in Kyiv this morning, 4 days before the 1 year anniversary of demented Vlads illegal invasion.
posted on 20/2/23
Evidence suggests parts of QT are biased -> pawl has no problem with these parts. -> pawl has no problem with bias towards his side. -> what pawl views as biased against his side, is actually balanced.
posted on 20/2/23
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
posted on 20/2/23
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
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Perhaps because not everyone who is a Tory feels the need to defend them no matter what they do?
posted on 20/2/23
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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I’d suggest it comes from, for him, that when biased chair (that Pawl doesn’t think is biased) Fiona Bruce asks for a show of hands on individual conservative policies, they get little support. He extrapolates that show of hands (which I don’t know if he pauses to count or not, but let’s assume he does) on an individual Tory policy to support or non support for a party.
posted on 20/2/23
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
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Perhaps because not everyone who is a Tory feels the need to defend them no matter what they do?
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So let me get this right. Evidence suggests the tories get massively more time to talk positively about their policies, than any other panel member. But what pawl wants is EVEN MORE TIME for audience members to repeat what the Tory panel member is saying? Again, I would suggest that it is a desire for bias towards his own views that is driving the unhappiness with QT.
posted on 20/2/23
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
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That's desperate!
Nobody puts their hand up to defend your dishonoured and inept heroes so it's bias rather than public opinion turning against them.
posted on 20/2/23
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Perhaps because not everyone who is a Tory feels the need to defend them no matter what they do?
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So let me get this right. Evidence suggests the tories get massively more time to talk positively about their policies, than any other panel member. But what pawl wants is EVEN MORE TIME for audience members to repeat what the Tory panel member is saying? Again, I would suggest that it is a desire for bias towards his own views that is driving the unhappiness with QT.
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As more questions are directed at the government minister on the panel than the other 4 panelists (which will always be the case) it doesn't strike me as odd that they get more air time.
The challenge for Bruce is to ensure that the others get a fair crack of the whip. I'm sure there are times that the Tory on the panel wishes they could get away with saying less.
posted on 20/2/23
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posted 5 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Perhaps because not everyone who is a Tory feels the need to defend them no matter what they do?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So let me get this right. Evidence suggests the tories get massively more time to talk positively about their policies, than any other panel member. But what pawl wants is EVEN MORE TIME for audience members to repeat what the Tory panel member is saying? Again, I would suggest that it is a desire for bias towards his own views that is driving the unhappiness with QT.
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As more questions are directed at the government minister on the panel than the other 4 panelists (which will always be the case) it doesn't strike me as odd that they get more air time.
The challenge for Bruce is to ensure that the others get a fair crack of the whip. I'm sure there are times that the Tory on the panel wishes they could get away with saying less.
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I completely disagree. I think they would happily talk for the full time without there being the opportunity to be properly challenged on whatever they are saying. You see this same thing with interviews, politicians give monologues that would make Shakespeare cringe so there is insufficient time to challenge them on what they’re saying. It is a well known and established political tactic, so I do find it odd that you have not recognised it.
posted on 20/2/23
They boycotted R4 Today because they don't like being challenged.
posted on 20/2/23
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posted 58 seconds ago
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posted 11 seconds ago
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posted 7 seconds ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
How do you know the make-up of the audience? What evidence do you have about the political allegiance of any of those 100 audience members?
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When a subject is being discussed and the government are getting a verbal kicking from the audience (regular occurrence) Bruce will ask if anybody will speak up for the Tories.
She's lucky if 3 hands go up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Perhaps because not everyone who is a Tory feels the need to defend them no matter what they do?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So let me get this right. Evidence suggests the tories get massively more time to talk positively about their policies, than any other panel member. But what pawl wants is EVEN MORE TIME for audience members to repeat what the Tory panel member is saying? Again, I would suggest that it is a desire for bias towards his own views that is driving the unhappiness with QT.
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As more questions are directed at the government minister on the panel than the other 4 panelists (which will always be the case) it doesn't strike me as odd that they get more air time.
The challenge for Bruce is to ensure that the others get a fair crack of the whip. I'm sure there are times that the Tory on the panel wishes they could get away with saying less.
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I completely disagree. I think they would happily talk for the full time without there being the opportunity to be properly challenged on whatever they are saying. You see this same thing with interviews, politicians give monologues that would make Shakespeare cringe so there is insufficient time to challenge them on what they’re saying. It is a well known and established political tactic, so I do find it odd that you have not recognised it.
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OK we're not going to agree but that's all good I'm used to ploughing a lonely furrow on here.
Moving things on if Humza Yousaf (who talks at you rather than too you) gets the SNP leadership is that the best news that Labour have had from Scotland in a very long time?
posted on 20/2/23
He's not getting in.
I do think Sturgeon carried a percentage of the floating electorate, I don't know if the new leader continues carrying them just as I don't know if they'd jump to Labour.
posted on 20/2/23
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's not getting in.
I do think Sturgeon carried a percentage of the floating electorate, I don't know if the new leader continues carrying them just as I don't know if they'd jump to Labour.
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I hope your right Hector the bloke comes across as always angry and aggressive and we don't need more of him on our screens.
posted on 20/2/23
Okay Mr Garnett
posted on 20/2/23
Despite suggestions otherwise this next generation of SNP talent in holyrood, humza, Kate Forbes ash Rogan etc don’t do anything for me. Incompetent, socially illiberal or both
posted on 20/2/23
It's a couple of hard acts to follow, Eck and then Nicola.
posted on 20/2/23
Sunak holds back Northern Ireland protocol deal amid concerns from DUP
Predictable. If you want power sharing to resume in Northern Ireland then you're gonna need the DUP to support what you're proposing otherwise its a waste of time.
posted on 20/2/23
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 34 minutes ago
It's a couple of hard acts to follow, Eck and then Nicola.
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And it did seem with sturgeon she was identified early on as a future leader. I just don’t think Forbes is either experienced enough, or “modern” enough, despite her age, to be a credible leader. Humza and Rogan, less said the better.
posted on 20/2/23
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 53 minutes ago
Sunak holds back Northern Ireland protocol deal amid concerns from DUP
Predictable. If you want power sharing to resume in Northern Ireland then you're gonna need the DUP to support what you're proposing otherwise its a waste of time.
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The problem is in reconciling the EU’s (and international trade law’s) requirements, the GFA and DUP demands, and I don’t see how that can ever be done.
You cannot be outside the SM and CU and have zero checks in or out at one border or another. It just cannot be done.
posted on 20/2/23
comment by Ten Hag Bald is Best Ball at its Facking Fines... (U17054)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 53 minutes ago
Sunak holds back Northern Ireland protocol deal amid concerns from DUP
Predictable. If you want power sharing to resume in Northern Ireland then you're gonna need the DUP to support what you're proposing otherwise its a waste of time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem is in reconciling the EU’s (and international trade law’s) requirements, the GFA and DUP demands, and I don’t see how that can ever be done.
You cannot be outside the SM and CU and have zero checks in or out at one border or another. It just cannot be done.
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I agree I'm failing to see how they resolve it. Northern Ireland have the best of both worlds at the moment so the people would probably be content if nothing xhanged from now
posted on 20/2/23
Junior doctors in England have voted in favour of taking strike action in their fight to get a pay rise of 26%.
Members of the British Medical Association are now expected to take part in a 72-hour walkout, possibly as early as mid March.
The union said the rise being asked for was to make up for pay cuts since 2008 once inflation is taken into account.
BREXIT FOOOOKING BRITAIN
posted on 20/2/23
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
Junior doctors in England have voted in favour of taking strike action in their fight to get a pay rise of 26%.
Members of the British Medical Association are now expected to take part in a 72-hour walkout, possibly as early as mid March.
The union said the rise being asked for was to make up for pay cuts since 2008 once inflation is taken into account.
BREXIT FOOOOKING BRITAIN
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How very dare they, they should be banned from striking, or something something something something..
posted on 20/2/23
Real terms pay reduction by over a quarter is pretty shocking tbh.
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